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Darren Fletcher | 2013/14 Performances
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So can anyone answer as to whether or not he's now made a complete recovery? Is the op supposed to rid him of his problems?
Nothing but good wishes for him, I certainly wouldn't feck him out just to get him off the wage bill, I doubt he's taking a considerable wage anyway and haven't I heard he does a bit of work with the youth set up?
Fletcher is a credit to Utd, a very good player who came through the ranks, pulled his weight and never ever complained when overlooked or asked to put in a shift. Massive shame for him that just when he realised his true potential and became a big asset to the team that he was hit with his illness.
Shipping him out would be completely classless, our lack of signings in MF in recent times has nothing to do with Fletcher being on the books. I'd imagine the manager (current and former) live in hope, rather than expectation, that he will return to the set up, but he's been a good servant to the club and cost us nothing, you don't just cut him loose when he's going through health problems.
Fletcher is a credit to Utd, a very good player who came through the ranks, pulled his weight and never ever complained when overlooked or asked to put in a shift. Massive shame for him that just when he realised his true potential and became a big asset to the team that he was hit with his illness.
Shipping him out would be completely classless, our lack of signings in MF in recent times has nothing to do with Fletcher being on the books. I'd imagine the manager (current and former) live in hope, rather than expectation, that he will return to the set up, but he's been a good servant to the club and cost us nothing, you don't just cut him loose when he's going through health problems.
His passing and positioning were v. good and his mobility decent - he got up and down the pitch well, though not at full tilt. He certainly wasn't the tigerish Fletch of the glory days, but you'd hardly expect that in a reserve match after such a long lay-off.
More or less writing him off for 'looking distinctly average' in his first game for a year after a serious illness is stupid to say the least.
He didn't play for years, his wage at the moment is decreased by the 80-90%.
I'm not writing him off for looking distinctly average in a reserves match at all. Stop putting words in my mouth.
It is true that I don't believe he'll return and once again become a permanent fixture in our side, but it's got less than nothing to do with his performance yesterday and everything to do with what he's been through, how far off the pace he looked the last time he made a comeback and the sheer fact that I think it's very, very difficult for him to offer us anything significant if his energy and mobility isn't top notch like it was at his best.
Very much so, I can't believe that post calling for him to be shed from the wage bill. Classless to say the least.
Try to construct better sentences in future and there won't be any confusion, I wasn't 'putting words in your mouth'.
What an absolutely class post. Love Fletcher, to this day the only player I have had on the back of a shirt. Summed up everything perfectly there popper.
there was so much expectation when he first broke through. he was desperate to join us even though Newcastle were after him. I hope he does come through this and will play again.
Whatever happens, I wish him the very best.
Whatever happens, I wish him the very best.
This. Cutting a loyal player from our youth team just because he's sick isn't what this club is about. Even if he doesn't play any more game for us, Fletcher can still contribute to the academy by coaching the young ones. If half of our youth players worked as hard as him, you can be sure that there'll be loads of them that makes it to the first team.
Will he be able to return to being a regular player at Premiership level at United or another club?
Do you expect an accurate answer?
Just curious what posters think. If he can't cut it at Premiership level I would enjoy seeing him try MLS.
Embarrassing? Try fecking disgusting.
fecking disgusting is what you would describe someone who think's we should get him off the wage bill?
You're a strange lad there.... You do know, as loyal as Fletcher has been, hes an employee of a company, I don't think it would be 'disgusting' by any means at all, perhaps saddening but even disrespectful is too far, why does he deserve it? He's not a huge club legend that's been integral for 10 years, he has been with us a while admittedly, but only really properly involved in a few years of play at a stretch.
By that reckoning, I've been in my current employment around 6 years, If I wasn't good enough anymore, would it be unfair or 'disgusting' of them to cancel my contract? I don't think so at all, perhaps a bit heartless maybe, but that's life. I'd rather in general, Manchester United do what is best for Manchester UNited, Not Player A or B...
It's definitely disrespectful imo, but saddening is an accurate description too. It's a saddening reflection of the money first, people last society we live in.
I'm sure that the club have reclaimed lots from insurance regarding the matter anyway.
I'm sure that the club have reclaimed lots from insurance regarding the matter anyway.
He deserves every opportunity to come back. But more than that, he deserves the very best of treatment and facilities, for however long he needs. I have two friends who have the same condition. It's really grim. Some things are more important than money or wage bills and moaning about not signing a midfielder.
Unfortunately many patients suffer from Pouchitis after surgery. I dont know if its as bad as at original condition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pouchitis
Why is everything you say so fecking stupid? A little while ago you were mocking me and asking 'how I ever got promoted' - but basically every post you make is utter gash and straight from the horse's arsehole. Your understanding of the game and the way things work at United is comparable to that of a 13 year old angry, fat gamer nerd.
I agree with Carl, it is disgusting.
It's not about 'not being good enough' - we know he's good enough; just before he got ill, he was at the very top of his game and it's only due to a highly unfortunate (not to mention debilitating) condition, that his career spiralled into absolute ruin. He's been a star for us, loyal and professional but more than anything absolutely determined to get fit again. His commitment and love for the club are second to none, so instead of kicking our loyal players out of the door Man City style, maybe the thinking is to make good on his commitment to us by giving the chance to come back, rather than adding to his woes by throwing him away and giving up.
You think it's ok to kick a sick man out of his job after years of solid service?
Shhhh..let the top reds tell us what's right and wrong.
I don't even know who you are.
Is "top reds" now just interchangeable for "people who disagree with me"?
No, you are right, I think since he did what he was employed to do, we should stick with him regardless, doesn't matter if he can't get back to the level we require, in fact, lets buy him a new house... After all, he's been loyal....
It's crazy to me, do I think he should be cut short and have his contract ended? No, if you had read correctly, you would see my issue was with Carl calling it 'fecking disgusting' to MUM's post, which for me is absurd.
People being killed for sport is fecking disgusting, a fan of a club calling for said player to have their contract cut short, for what they feel is a reasonable reason, is not disgusting...
However, if you had asked my POV, it would be that he does deserve the chance (to play out this contract) to see if he can force his way into the squad and become a value member once more... However, if by the end of his contract, he's not able to, I would be quite disappointed if we offered him an extension, in fact, even moving him to the staff would be more acceptable for me, I have no anti agenda regarding him being at Manchester United.
No, it's apt for people who refuse to say anything other than what they conceive to be 'The Manchester United way', again, not saying anyone here falls under that category, but that's when I'd use it at least.
So you know, I didn't agree with your point, I am of the opposite opinion, however describing your comments as fecking disgusting is pretty insane to me... But either way you won't help yourself with comments like above
Why not explain? I'd be interested to hear your reasoning..Fletcher should be kept on as an ambassador once his playing career is over. I hope he's never off our books.
Oh feck off with the top red bullshit, just because he has a completely different opinion to you doesn't make him a "top red", maybe he really thinks your posts are gash and you are being incredibly stupid and insensitive towards Fletcher, rather than saying it to look good. Why don't you actually debate rather than name call, you might actually get somewhere.
I'd rather our Darren make the money instead of some guy in Florida.
I think he'd be good enough for that league even if he only comes back half the player he was, and that's really not a stab at the MLS; but for all its ambition, it's still not a very strong league in global terms. Terry Cooke for instance was an absolute superstar for Colorado Rapids, and he'd been a bench player at Sheffield Wednesday before going out there. Fletcher would shine in the MLS, he might even get in at LA Galaxy with a good word from Becks.
Like I said though, I hope we give him a good chance first. If Fellaini ends up flopping this season, y'never know how valuable to us he might be.
Oh FFS.
It's nothing to do with being a Top Red and everything to do with being a fan of Manchester United.
You keep bringing up business' outside of football. That has nothing to do with being a player at Manchester United. I'm pretty sure if you give 20 years service and became one of the best ever players they wouldn't have a statue for you outside your offices either. It's nothing like an ordinary work place.
If you chose to support Manchester United that's what you do. You don't just feck off one of the clubs youth players when he falls down with a horrible illness. You hope against all hopes he comes back and plays as good as he can do. Otherwise what's the point? What honestly is the point of supporting Man United if you remove all sentimentality?
In a world where I increasingly feel like I have no control over anything, I go to Old Trafford on a matchday and I watch around 16 men kick a stupid ball around a field and I feel good if they score. These men are more than just office workers, they're people from around the globe I will get behind and amazingly it's in their hands how I'll feel for the rest of the week.
If like Patrice Evra they give everything for the cause I'll get behind them and like them all the more.
If like Danny Welbeck they're a local boy competing against players worth 30/40+ million I'll will them on. Hope they make it.
If it's both like Darren Fletcher I'll be over the moon every time he plays. Sure there's flashier players and players with a higher ceiling but who gives a feck?
In 20 years players like Scholes and Giggs will be etched into the history of this football club, unfortunately Fletcher probably has had that chance taken from him. But he's United through and through and you get behind him and will him back because otherwise I don't see the point of supporting the club. It has to mean more than just win every game playing the best football with whoever. Surely.
Get him off our wage bill cause he was sick for a prolonged time? It's a sorry stance to say the least. He deserves every chance he has of coming back to footie as he's the last person not to do everything it takes. He doesn't get top dollar these days I'd wager as well.
Spot on.
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