[GioF]

That's your opinion. You can't force it on people who have watched him more than you have. You were wrong about his age. Watch his crosses for Wales as well.

It is my opinion. I’m not forcing anything on readers here. In my opinion I think he’s absolutely not United quality. I wasn’t wrong about his age. I said he turns 24 this year. So again Iv said nothing that wasn’t true.
I could give a shit what he does or doesn’t do for Wales. I care what he does for us. And he’s a good few notches below the quality needed. Again just my opinion.

Ffs 23 is young, and he is a good footballer

Quote was ‘very young’. He’s 24 this year! hardly a fecking teenager. And no he absolutely is not.

Exactly. Some people here actually would rather him fail than come good

Nah I’d love him to become a top winger. But he won’t because he lacks all the top end qualities like beating a man, crossing and scoring. He’s doesn’t do any of these three things consistently. He will NEVER become good enough for a team competing for the league. He’s a bottom/mid table sign.

It’s no surprise to see Dan James get so much stick, it’s the way of the modern fan, we have a few quality players, rashford, Maguire, even Fernandes and lots more and they all get shit on from a great height from so called fans of the club.
it was only a season or so ago Shaw was being called a waste of space and now he’s proving to be the best left back in the league.

fans should Chill out and enjoy the ride and progress of players in my humble opinion.

James is no neymar or even Nani, but he has got bits to his game that can be improved on and who knows where that would lead, maybe a loan with regular game time would do him good and bring him on even more.

I’m not sure where vardy was when he was 23 but I know he wasn’t lighting fires at one of the top teams in the league.

Snore. Getting bored now. You can chat as much shite as you want but he’s not going to be good enough for us. It’s that simple.

 

[BR7]

first time ever, and I genuinely mean that, using the ignore function on this site. I suggest you do the same. I didn’t even know you existed until the “go play in traffic small mind” comment which was totally uncalled for too. All for heated debate but where is the actual debate here? this is just you straight up making a statement attacking people, from what I can gather who weren’t even talking to you, for posting in a thread about a footballer you don’t like and that’s it?

Are u Welsh? Play the victim?

A one sided meltdown if I’ve ever seen one.

mate feelings mutual, your knowledge of football can probably be written on the back oif a post it note (a small one) I didn’t achieve much in terms of football but played 1st x1 at 2 universities snd captain of football at one, not much I know but still

But you’re clearly one of his mates, even a partially illiterate person reading this thread would know your mate jumped my opinion not visa versa.

 

[bsCallout]

Sancho, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Amad, Pogba all start ahead of him on the wings. If for whatever reason none of them are available I guess he could start.

I think his career would be better served elsewhere. He would start week in week out at some bottom half Prem clubs, he'll be lucky to get any minutes here now.

 

[BR7]

Sancho, Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Amad, Pogba all start ahead of him on the wings. If for whatever reason none of them are available I guess he could start.

I think his career would be better served elsewhere. He would start week in week out at some bottom half Prem clubs, he'll be lucky to get any minutes here now.

agreed

 

[United in sin]

Dan James was bought for less than 15m from a championship club so why do our fans expect him to be brilliant?

He's a good back up. Start treating him that way instead of saying he's crap because he's not like Ronaldo.

He's easily among the worst signings this club has made over the last decade for me. He can turn it around of course while he's still on the clubs books but I very much doubt that.

 

[BR7]

did someone just catch Dan James with his girlfriend? Only to find, they are now on their way to The Mumbles to make sweet love for the next month?

This is a noteworthy meltdown!

youre right

DJ is better than Giggs, Hughes, Blackmore, Saunders, rush ....

This here is a noteworthy Welsh fan who lives a dream on a daily basis. Youve even got 15 rugby players one of which is effing Iranian and we don’t even play rugby. Sure sure he’s Welsh is Navidi and DJ is not a good footballer snd as a country you’re below average in everything.

I mean we don’t even play rugby snd o e of your 15 is Iranian. Soon you’ll have Iranian s playing for your national football team. Sure sure they’re Welsh

 

[Zlatan 7]

youre right

DJ is better than Giggs, Hughes, Blackmore, Saunders, rush ....

This here is a noteworthy Welsh fan who lives a dream on a daily basis. Youve even got 15 rugby players one of which is effing Iranian and we don’t even play rugby. Sure sure he’s Welsh is Navidi and DJ is not a good footballer snd as a country you’re below average in everything.

I mean we don’t even play rugby snd o e of your 15 is Iranian. Soon you’ll have Iranian s playing for your national football team. Sure sure they’re Welsh

 

[Van Piorsing]

 

[BR7]

Love the Welsh, the average boys

 

[Cascarino]

What's happening here?

Good question

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

youre right

DJ is better than Giggs, Hughes, Blackmore, Saunders, rush ....

This here is a noteworthy Welsh fan who lives a dream on a daily basis. Youve even got 15 rugby players one of which is effing Iranian and we don’t even play rugby. Sure sure he’s Welsh is Navidi and DJ is not a good footballer snd as a country you’re below average in everything.

I mean we don’t e be play rugby snd o e of your 15 is Iranian. Soon you’ll have Iranian s playing for your national football team. Sure sure they’re Welsh

You know I’m not Welsh! So throw all the Welsh insults you like as me, they won’t stick! Furthermore, I’m afraid I don’t watch rugby, aside from the odd occasion England are playing in the WC final

Full disclosure for everyone else to note. @BR7 messaged me to call me immature. I told him I would not respond to private messages - anything he has to say, should be put in the thread…

thank you for the amusement.

 

[jesperjaap]

mate feelings mutual, your knowledge of football can probably be written on the back oif a post it note (a small one) I didn’t achieve much in terms of football but played 1st x1 at 2 universities snd captain of football at one, not much I know but still

But you’re clearly one of his mates, even a partially illiterate person reading this thread would know your mate jumped my opinion not visa versa.

BR7....Bristliano Ronaldo?

 

[hellhunter]

BR7....Bristliano Ronaldo?

Taking a guess here... Bryan Robson

 

[Cascarino]

youre right

DJ is better than Giggs, Hughes, Blackmore, Saunders, rush ....

This here is a noteworthy Welsh fan who lives a dream on a daily basis. Youve even got 15 rugby players one of which is effing Iranian and we don’t even play rugby. Sure sure he’s Welsh is Navidi and DJ is not a good footballer snd as a country you’re below average in everything.

I mean we don’t even play rugby snd o e of your 15 is Iranian. Soon you’ll have Iranian s playing for your national football team. Sure sure they’re Welsh

Hahaha, don't hold back mate

 

[jesperjaap]

It is my opinion. I’m not forcing anything on readers here. In my opinion I think he’s absolutely not United quality. I wasn’t wrong about his age. I said he turns 24 this year. So again Iv said nothing that wasn’t true.
I could give a shit what he does or doesn’t do for Wales. I care what he does for us. And he’s a good few notches below the quality needed. Again just my opinion.



Quote was ‘very young’. He’s 24 this year! hardly a fecking teenager. And no he absolutely is not.



Nah I’d love him to become a top winger. But he won’t because he lacks all the top end qualities like beating a man, crossing and scoring. He’s doesn’t do any of these three things consistently. He will NEVER become good enough for a team competing for the league. He’s a bottom/mid table sign.



Snore. Getting bored now. You can chat as much shite as you want but he’s not going to be good enough for us. It’s that simple.

I totally agree with the comment about what he does for Wales and what he does for us. What does it matter waht a player does in an international tournament when judging a players progress and performance for our club. What solely matters is what they do for us.

I dont think he is good enough either, think he is a good couple of levels below the right quality witout debating why... and as bscallout mentions, in the current set up really he is third choice for either flank with the arrival of Sancho

 

[The Cat]

It is my opinion. I’m not forcing anything on readers here. In my opinion I think he’s absolutely not United quality. I wasn’t wrong about his age. I said he turns 24 this year. So again Iv said nothing that wasn’t true.
I could give a shit what he does or doesn’t do for Wales. I care what he does for us. And he’s a good few notches below the quality needed. Again just my opinion.



Quote was ‘very young’. He’s 24 this year! hardly a fecking teenager. And no he absolutely is not.



Nah I’d love him to become a top winger. But he won’t because he lacks all the top end qualities like beating a man, crossing and scoring. He’s doesn’t do any of these three things consistently. He will NEVER become good enough for a team competing for the league. He’s a bottom/mid table sign.



Snore. Getting bored now. You can chat as much shite as you want but he’s not going to be good enough for us. It’s that simple.

It matters what he's done for Wales because he's shown what he might be able to do for us as a squad player given more time and less pressure.

He has played in his preferred position more often for Wales.

it absolutely does matter.

 

[GioF]

I totally agree with the comment about what he does for Wales and what he does for us. What does it matter waht a player does in an international tournament when judging a players progress and performance for our club. What solely matters is what they do for us.

I dont think he is good enough either, think he is a good couple of levels below the right quality witout debating why... and as bscallout mentions, in the current set up really he is third choice for either flank with the arrival of Sancho

Exactly!! If he does well for Wales maybe it raises his stock but that’s about it. He seems a nice lad so I feel harsh in saying I want him sold but it’s strictly down to his ability which like Iv said is nowhere near good enough for a team with title aspirations.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Jadon, Rashy, Greenwood and Martial will get most of minutes on the wings. Plus we have Amad who needs to get some minutes too.
We would be crazy to keep him for some odd games instead getting some nice money for him

 

[The Cat]

youre right

DJ is better than Giggs, Hughes, Blackmore, Saunders, rush ....

This here is a noteworthy Welsh fan who lives a dream on a daily basis. Youve even got 15 rugby players one of which is effing Iranian and we don’t even play rugby. Sure sure he’s Welsh is Navidi and DJ is not a good footballer snd as a country you’re below average in everything.

I mean we don’t even play rugby snd o e of your 15 is Iranian. Soon you’ll have Iranian s playing for your national football team. Sure sure they’re Welsh

fecking hell

 

[GioF]

It matters what he's done for Wales because he's shown what he might be able to do for us as a squad player given more time and less pressure.

He has played in his preferred position more often for Wales.

it absolutely does matter.

So if he does well for Wales how the feck does that make his performances better for us.

Look…the simple truth is when Wales play teams who are half decent they will look to play in the counter and soak up possession. That’s fine. For a team like us who will play 30 games a year with teams sitting back and slowing the game down Daniel James skill set doesn’t work well. We’ve seen this for years now.
He’d do well at a mid table team. He absolutely is not good enough for us….in my opinion.

 

[Zlatan 7]

fecking hell

First we crash out of the Euros then we get kicked when we’re down

 

[The Cat]

So if he does well for Wales how the feck does that make his performances better for us.

Look…the simple truth is when Wales play teams who are half decent they will look to play in the counter and soak up possession. That’s fine. For a team like us who will play 30 games a year with teams sitting back and slowing the game down Daniel James skill set doesn’t work well. We’ve seen this for years now.
He’d do well at a mid table team. He absolutely is not good enough for us….in my opinion.

Years? FFS he's not been here long.

He might well not work but he's worth a place in the 25 off the bench against certain teams while we find out - he's been played too often so far due to not having the 1st team in place.

Now he has a chance to find his spot.

 

[jesperjaap]

Exactly!! If he does well for Wales maybe it raises his stock but that’s about it. He seems a nice lad so I feel harsh in saying I want him sold but it’s strictly down to his ability which like Iv said is nowhere near good enough for a team with title aspirations.

Absolutely, get hit iwith Pogab for France, sure Arsenal have had it with Xhaka as he is always good for Switzerland. I do have to say, I know his stats looked good but I really dont see what people are raving about with James tournament performance anyway. Few pacey runs and one great cross, but were lots of isntances of his piss poor decision making and relatively simple final balls as well.

He was a £15m gamble when we needed a much bigger signing at the time, so he has had a lot of pressure on him to be fair, but he is out of his depth for me. The positive is we can actually make a profit on him which seems to be very rare with most of our failed purchases the last 10years

 

[Gandalf]

I am Welsh

Daniel James deserves the Ballon d'Or

Oh my god S Club Seven Br7 is right

 

[GioF]

Years? FFS he's not been here long.

He might well not work but he's worth a place in the 25 off the bench against certain teams while we find out - he's been played too often so far due to not having the 1st team in place.

Now he has a chance to find his spot.

He’s been here two years. As in plural. So again what Iv said is the truth. I don’t seem to understand why you’ve taken it upon yourself to defend him so much when all Iv said is in my opinion he’s not good enough for us and I’d cash in on him now.

Right so who’s forcing opinions on people now?! “Worth a place in the 25”.That’s your opinion not a fact. Your deluded if you think now after two years of underwhelming performances when we’ve just signed three wingers in 12 months one being a stud in Sancho and NOW he’s going to find his spot?! God that’s so ridiculous.

He will find his spot…..for another team I’m hoping. Again no knock on the lad but he’s just not good enough. Left wing, right wing…it doesn’t matter. His skill set quite simply isn’t of the standard required. Let’s cash in on him now. Not a year or two and get a poxy small fee for him. If we can get anything more than £15m I’d be happy.

 

[GioF]

Absolutely, get hit iwith Pogab for France, sure Arsenal have had it with Xhaka as he is always good for Switzerland. I do have to say, I know his stats looked good but I really dont see what people are raving about with James tournament performance anyway. Few pacey runs and one great cross, but were lots of isntances of his piss poor decision making and relatively simple final balls as well.

He was a £15m gamble when we needed a much bigger signing at the time, so he has had a lot of pressure on him to be fair, but he is out of his depth for me. The positive is we can actually make a profit on him which seems to be very rare with most of our failed purchases the last 10years

Couldn’t agree more. Being half Italian I watched the Italy/Wales game with great detail and James was just meh. Ran around. Worked hard. That’s it. Nice kid. Not good enough footballer. It’s not rocket science.

 

[No Love]

Boy am I glad I checked the Dan James thread this evening

 

[BR7]

I’m from a below average country myself, but unlike the Welsh boys I’m a realist. DJ is not anything but an average foootballer and not good enough for the united squad. He’s good enough for Iran and I’d take him any day and he can warm our bench up but he is not good enough at any level to be near Man Utd. I watched Ralph Milne. He wasn’t any worst than DJ.

 

[BR7]

Pretending not to be Welsh and posting “I thought Daniel James had a great game see” yeah nice one

 

[acolyte]

Ffs 23 is young, and he is a good footballer

I'm sorry, but no. Just no. Not unless your standards are at the level of Southampton or Newcastle.

He's being patronized and treated like he's 17, like basic mistakes are just par for the course for him and should be expected. James is basically Rashford's age, and I don't see anyone treating him like a youth player. Rashford is held to a higher standard because he has obvious talent. You can say players develop at different speeds but when was the last time a 23 year old winger with a Lukaku-grade first touch, who can't pass straight, and who doesn't like taking on defenders turned into a United level player later in his career?

It matters what he's done for Wales because he's shown what he might be able to do for us as a squad player given more time and less pressure.

He has played in his preferred position more often for Wales.

it absolutely does matter.

Well that's just not realistic when you play for Manchester United, so it doesn't really apply does it?

Also he's never going to get games in his preferred position. We have at least 4 players now who are better than him on the left (Rashford, Sancho, Pogba, and even Martial), and we can't give him game time just for the sake of it. I'd rather give Elanga those fringe minutes if we're just speculating on potential. He's a lot younger than James and has been highly rated for a long time.

For his own good, Dan James needs to find a more suitable club.

 

[gorky_utd]

He had a decent Euro. We probably should get around 20m for him.

 

[roonster09]

Leeds wanted him when they were in championship, they wanted him last season too. Hopefully they are still interested to sign him.

 

[red4ever 79]

I’m from a below average country myself, but unlike the Welsh boys I’m a realist. DJ is not anything but an average foootballer and not good enough for the united squad. He’s good enough for Iran and I’d take him any day and he can warm our bench up but he is not good enough at any level to be near Man Utd. I watched Ralph Milne. He wasn’t any worst than DJ.

WTF. Who are you to make a statement about other nationalities like that. I'm Welsh, proud to be Welsh. I'm proud of the boys, even getting out of the group is a bonus for me.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

He's easily among the worst signings this club has made over the last decade for me. He can turn it around of course while he's still on the clubs books but I very much doubt that.

This isn't fair. You can't treat all signings on same level.

James isn't a world beater because if he was we'd have paid a lot more for him.

I agree that he's one of the poorest players in the squad but that's exactly where he was always going to be.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

He's easily among the worst signings this club has made over the last decade for me. He can turn it around of course while he's still on the clubs books but I very much doubt that.

darmian,
Schweinsteiger
Falcao
Powell
Valdez
Schneiderlin
Kagowa
di Maria
Sanchez
Rojo
Buttner
Depay
Varela


Off the top of my head…

 

[United in sin]

This isn't fair. You can't treat all signings on same level.

James isn't a world beater because if he was we'd have paid a lot more for him.

I agree that he's one of the poorest players in the squad but that's exactly where he was always going to be.

I don't understand your reasoning here, especially the last bit. Are you saying it's ok that he plays at a low level because he came cheap and it was to be expected?

When you wear that red shirt and play as much as James has he is then open to fair criticism for his perfmances no matter how much the club paid for his services

@ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg not sure what purpose presenting your list serves. Are you saying those players were worse than James? I'm not going to disagree with your list even though I feel all of those players were more talented than James. James belongs on the list as well in my opinion

 

[lilcurt]

darmian,
Schweinsteiger
Falcao
Powell
Valdez
Schneiderlin
Kagowa
di Maria
Sanchez
Rojo
Buttner
Depay
Varela


Off the top of my head…

In all fairness James is worse than a fair few on that list.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

He's easily among the worst signings this club has made over the last decade for me. He can turn it around of course while he's still on the clubs books but I very much doubt that.

Little OTT. He is no Sanchez.

 

[Tomuś]

He's easily among the worst signings this club has made over the last decade for me. He can turn it around of course while he's still on the clubs books but I very much doubt that.

With all the dross we've signed for big money?

This was purely a cheap punt. For his reputation, he does what we'd expected realistically. Scores/assist now and there, had a purple patch when he was looking good, but also poor streaks of form.

Overall he's definitely not been the garbage levels we signed in the last decade and he was dirty cheap.

 

[United in sin]

With all the dross we've signed for big money?

This was purely a cheap punt. For his reputation, he does what we'd expected realistically. Scores/assist now and there, had a purple patch when he was looking good, but also poor streaks of form.

Overall he's definitely not been the garbage levels we signed in the last decade and he was dirty cheap.

I don't get this obsession with transfer fees. If we signed a free agent, placed him in the starting 11 almost immediately and he stunk up the place after an initial and short-lived purple patch he'd still make a poor signing and would deserve every fair criticism coming to him