Dallas Cup

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Just received confirmation of this year's schedule:

Dr Pepper Dallas Cup has announced that the prestigious Gordon Jago Super Group brackets are set. Group play starts on Sunday, March 24, and runs through Wednesday, March 27 at the Cotton Bowl Stadium, CLSC Richland College Complex, and The University of Texas-Dallas Complex.

The international flavor of Dallas Cup is on full display with three continents represented in each group while Group B features two previous super group champions in Coritiba FC and Eintracht Frankfurt.

The first place team from each group, along with the second place team with the most points, will advance to the semi-finals which take place at the Cotton Bowl on Friday March 29. The semifinal winners advance to the Dallas Cup Championship game on Sunday, March 31.

Bracket A

Manchester United (England)
Kashiwa Reysol (Japan)
Club America (Mexico)
Dallas Texans (USA)

Bracket B

Coritiba FC (Brazil)
Fulham FC (England)
Eintracht Frankfurt (Germany)
LA Galaxy Academy (USA)

Bracket C

Fluminense (Brazil)
Aalborg BK (Denmark)
Tigres (Mexico)
Toronto FC (Canada)

We got to the final last year so will be interesting to see what squad we take out there.
 
Is this for 18s?

I almost got to play in this tournament once but our team decided to go to another instead, though our team would've been in the bracket below the top one.
 
Has a squad been announced for this yet ?
 
gza the genius said:
Is this for 18s?
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U19s (players born 1/8/93 and later).

So of the regular U21 squad, McGinty, James, Blackett, McCullough, Fornasier, Hendrie, Ekangamene, Van Velzen, Januzaj and Lawrence are eligible, presumably joined by several of the U18s and maybe a few loan/guest players (can include up to five, so maybe some of the Desportivo Brasil kids).
 
Will this tournament be televised?
 
Times are probably Dallas local, which would be 5 hours behind England (until the end of the month), I believe.

Dr Pepper Dallas Cup XXXIV Schedule of Events
29 January 2013 -Subject to Change


Dr Pepper Dallas Cup XXXIV
Schedule of Events
As of 29 January 2013-Subject to Change


All Team Registrations, Team & Referee Meetings and Receptions

Take Place at the Tournament Headquarters Hotel-Crowne Plaza-Addison on Midway Road


Select “Gordon Jago” Super Group Preliminary Round Games, “Gordon Jago” Super Group Semi Finals, Opening Ceremonies and All Age Group Championship Games take place at the Historic Cotton Bowl Stadium in downtown Dallas


All other matches in all age groups will take place at one of two complexes.

At the “Classic League Soccer Complex” (CLSC) on the Richland College Campus or

The University of Texas-Dallas (UTD)



Thursday, March 21
7:00pm - 10:00pm Mandatory registration for Dallas Teams



Friday, March 22
7:00pm - 10:00pm Optional registration for International teams

Saturday, March 23
8:00am - 1:00pm Mandatory registration completion for International Teams
1:00pm - 5:00pm Mandatory Registration for USA Teams
6:00pm - 7:15pm FIFA Reception, Hosted by North Texas State Soccer Association, Crowne Plaza Addison (By Invitation only)
7:30pm- 10:30pm Welcome Reception, Hosted by North Texas State Soccer Assoc., Crowne Plaza Addison (By Invitation only)

Sunday, March 24
7:00am - 8:00am Mandatory Referees Meeting. All referees are required to attend
7:15am - 8:00am Mandatory Coach and/or Manager Meeting. All teams are required to send at least one individual
9:30am - 3:30pm Preliminary round games – All Age Groups at both complexes
10:00am-12:00pm Coritiba FC (Brazil) vs Fulham FC (England) - Gordon Jago Super Group - Stadium
12:30pm- 2:30pm Eintracht Frankfurt (Germany) vs LA Galaxy (USA) - Gordon Jago Super Group - Stadium
3:00pm - 5:00pm Fluminense FC (Brazil) vs Tigres (Mexico) - Gordon Jago Super Group - Stadium
5:00pm - 6:00pm Welcome World - Opening Ceremonies - Stadium
6:30pm - 8:45pm Manchester United FC (England) vs Club America (Mexico) - Gordon Jago Super Group - Stadium

Monday, March 25
10:00am - 8:00pm Preliminary round games – All Age Groups - Both Complexes

Tuesday, March 26
10:00am-6:00pm Preliminary round games–Select Age Groups and Teams – “CLSC” Richland College Complex

Wednesday, March 27
10:00am-8:00pm Preliminary round games – All Age Groups - Both Complexes
5:00pm-7:00pm Tigres (Mexico) vs Aalborg BK (Denmark) - Gordon Jago Super Group - Stadium
7:30pm-9:30pm Club America (Mexico) vs Dallas Texans USSF DA (USA) - Gordon Jago Super Group - Stadium

Thursday, March 28
9:30am-5:30pm Friendly Games "Dallas Cup Way" (weather permitting) - “CLSC” Richland College Complex
4:00pm-8:00pm U15, U14 and U13 Quarterfinal Games - “CLSC” Richland College Complex
7:45pm-12:00am Casino Night Reception, [adults only] Crowne Plaza Hotel Addison

Friday, March 29
9:30am-5:30pm Friendly Games “Dallas Cup Way" (weather permitting) – “CLSC” Richland College Complex
11:00am-3:30pm U15, U14 and U13 Semifinal Games - “CLSC” Richland College Complex
11:00am-3:30pm U19, U17 and U16 Quarterfinal Games - “CLSC” Richland College Complex
5:00pm-7:00pm Gordon Jago Super Group Semifinal - [Dallas Is Diversity Night] - Stadium
7:30pm-10:00pm Gordon Jago Super Group Semifinal - [Dallas Is Diversity Night] – Stadium

Saturday, March 30
9:00am-5:00pm Friendly Games "Dallas Cup Way" (weather permitting) “CLSC” Richland College Complex
10:00am-12:00pm U19, U17 and U16 Semifinal Games “CLSC” Richland College Complex
12:00pm-2:00pm U13 Championship - Stadium
2:30pm-4:30pm U14 Championship - Stadium
5:00pm-7:00pm U15 Championship - Stadium


Sunday, March 31
10:00am -12:00pm U16 Championship - - Stadium
12:30pm - 2:30pm U17 Championship - Presented by Frito Lay - Stadium
3:00pm - 5:30pm U19 Championship - Presented by Metro PCS - Stadium
6:00pm - 8:00pm Gordon Jago Super Group U19 Championship – Trophy Presentation by Dr Pepper - Stadium

http://www.dallascup.com/schedevent/index_E.html
 
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2006 Dallas cup squad with Rene Meulensteen.
 
Can you recognize all of them ?

Can't seem to recognize some.
 
I think I see Jonny Evans. Oh and he's next to Gibson.
 
Can spot Shawcross, Evans, Gibson, Campbell and Cleverley(?) I think. Who's the other one?
 
I see shawcross next to Evans and Campbell at the end. Where's Cleverley?
 
L-R: Mullan, Gray, Shawcross (back), Lea, Rose, Evans, Gibson, Rossi, Marsh, Burns, Lee, R Jones, Hewson, Barnes, Zieler, Crockett (I think), (Meulensteen), Campbell
 
Evans is now a regular first teamer, Gibson, Campbell and Shawcross have ended up as decent Premier League players and Rossi and Zieler have found success abroad. The likes of Gray, Lee, Rose and Jones have had decent careers in the lower leagues, while most of the other lads have teetered around non league for a while. Interesting to read that both Marsh and Burns had spells with FC United too.

All in all that is a decent success rate for a youth team I'd say, and you'd bet that the current team has enough talent to produce something similar.
 
That's pretty impressive PS18.

Dallas Cup Squad: Ron-Robert Zieler, Lee Crockett, Jonny Evans, Phil Marsh, Gerard Piqué, Kieran Lee, David Gray, Ryan Shawcross, Michael Lea, Danny Rose, Ritchie Jones, Sam Hewson, Jamie Mullan, Darron Gibson, Michael Barnes, Giuseppe Rossi, Fraizer Campbell, Aaron Burns.

https://www.redcafe.net/f6/reserves-jet-off-dallas-109877/

This was the squad according to the thread i just found of the time.
 
Ron-Robert Zieler - Really kicked on since leaving United. Regular in Bundesliga and a Full German International at 23/24 now.

Lee Crockett - Left for Boston United. Then went to Corby town. Then to Rothwell FC and last i can spot him is at Aylesbury United in 2010.

Jonny Evans - We all know. The only one in the United first team.

Phil marsh - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Marsh At Guiseley after a number of clubs since leaving.

Gerard Pique - Dunno, if he went to Dallas eventually but we all know how he has progressed.

Kieran Lee - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kieran_Lee At Sheff wed after a decent spell at Oldham in league 1. Remember him scoring a winner for us in the league cup a few years ago as a teenager.

David Gray - At Stevenage in League 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Gray_(footballer_born_1988)

Ryan Shawcross - England International and a good PL defender.

Michael Lea - At Colwyn Bay in Conference North. Was apparently their POTY last season.

Danny Rose - At Aldershot in League 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Rose_(footballer_born_1988)

Ritchie Jones - England Youth International at all levels and captained at many levels including a European u19 final team in 2005.made 5 appearances for United. Currently at Rochdale in league 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritchie_Jones#cite_note-18 Really surprised how far below he has fallen.

Sam Hewson - At Fram in Iceland apparently after Playing in the conference for a couple of seasons. https://www.redcafe.net/f40/sam-hewson-169707/ Was rated at one point by some United fans.

Jamie Mullan - At Conference National Alfreton town last season. Signed for Welsh Champions New Saints this season.

Darron Gibson - Doing well for Everton and a full international. Established PL player.

Michael Barnes - https://www.redcafe.net/f6/michael-barnes-vs-giggs-reserve-145640/ At Non league AFC Flyde in 2011 last i can find.

Giussepe Rossi - Italy International. Pity he picked up a serious injury though and is still to recover from that while has had to move to Fiorentina instead of Barcelona.

Frazier Campbell - Sold for a decent amount from united and got a England cap. Should have been established in the PL by now but like Rossi serious injuries hampered him. Sold to Cardiff and scoring a bit there though.

Aaron Burns - Had a spell somewhat famously at FCUOM. Currently at Ashton united.
 
Cheers for that gents. Brings back some memories.

Not to jump on one player in all this but Tunnicliffe springs to mind when i see Hewson and his career to date.

Similar types, id nearly say Hewson had a touch more natural ability whereas Tunnicliffe a bit more desire.

Michael Barnes, player of the tournament for us when we won the youths Champions league a few years back. mental in a way.
 
Very good uppdate on the players, thanks for that. This group was before I started following the youth, will be interesting too see how the current group has done in few years time.
 
Interesting. All these players once had hopes of playing for Manchester United, and now most are not good enough to play league football.

What an all or nothing race it is! When the starting pistol sounds they're all level - at the finish line the winners take chauffeured limos to posh houses and 50 grand a week; the losers take a taxi to a non-league club and a bare living.
 
True. David Gill's son didn't think so though.

I wonder does a typical 15/16 year old in the Academy appreciate how high the stakes are - that he's playing for his life.
 
Yeah, though he may have his future on the fast track with his father's influence and help, as opposed to working construction. His prospects outside of playing football are probably much better than in the game as well, thanks to that.

I think a 15/16 year old would think they know they're playing at high stakes, but not in the same way a grown man does when he looks back on what he could have done at that age, as you often hear former players say.
 
Will Absolute said:
Interesting. All these players once had hopes of playing for Manchester United, and now most are not good enough to play league football.
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And that's probably the most successful crop we've had over the last 20/25 years at least (outside the obvious one).
 
Our opening game Vs Club America is going to be streamed live on the Dallas Cup website for anyone who is interested.
 
PS18 said:
And that's probably the most successful crop we've had over the last 20/25 years at least (outside the obvious one).
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In terms of average success ? Or in terms of most players playing at the top level ?

Also, I think the last youth cup winning team would have better careers on average. And the Bardsley/Simpson/Richardson/David Jones/Spector/Ebanks Blake class wasn't bad either. Rossi largely played with them IIRC.

The period before this 2006 and that batch was pretty lean though IIRC. Kenny Cooper and Company.....
 
Apparently we're taking a younger squad than last year and more players too. Anyone know who's going or when we're likely to find out?
 
Genius Me! said:
Apparently we're taking a younger squad than last year and more players too. Anyone know who's going or when we're likely to find out?
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Probably tomorrow (Friday) when the squad flies out.
 
Hopefully it gets posted on our website. Would like to see Januzaj play with his younger comrades Daehli, Pearson and co.
 
Powell is still eligible too, i think. Away with England u19 though. Lawrence might not go with International commitments either.

Andreas Pereira and Joao Pereira are also playing Internationals so not sure how that works.
 
Here is the squad with roster underneath.

Squad: Pierluigi Gollini, Jonny Sutherland; Liam Grimshaw, Nicholas Ioannou, Michele Fornasier, Reece James, Tyler Blackett; Charni Ekangamene, Luke Hendrie, Ben Pearson, Joe Rothwell, Jack Rudge, James Weir, Josh Harrop, Mats Daehli, Adnan Januzaj; Jack Barmby, Gyliano van Velzen, James Wison.

Link to official site

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...Mar/united-announce-squad-for-dallas-cup.aspx


Manchester United - Gordon Jago Super Group
Coach: Warren Joyce
Manchester, England

1. Jonathan Sutherland
2. Liam Grimshaw
3. Tyler Blackett
4. Michele Fornasier
5. Joshua Harrop
6. Charni Ekangamene
7. James Weir
8. Benjamin Pearson
9. Gyliano Van Velsen
10. Adnan Januzaj
11. Mats Daehli
12. Jack Barmby
13. Pierluigi Gollini
14. Luke Hendrie
15. Nicholas Ioannou
16. Jack Rudge
17. Reece James
18. Joseph Rothwell
19. James Wilson
 
Good squad that, they should perform some good football.

Will Keane also traveling with the team to continue his rehab.
 
Lawrence and the 2 Perreira's miss out with International duty, i guess. Maybe Powell too though not sure if he would have gone anyway?

Good squad. Pretty much the Youth cup team with 3/4 additions.
 
How are Daelhi and Januzaj not with their respective u-19 national teams?

I seem to remember something about Daelhi taking a break from international teams this year, but didn't he play for the Norwegian u-21s recently enough?

I can't seem to recall Januzaj missing much football due to playing with Belgium underage though, anyone know the story there? I'd be tempted to say it's because he plays outside Belgium were it not for the fact that Perreira still gets called up regularly.
 
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