Curtis Woodhouse on Paul Scholes

duffer said:
You're right but he didn't get it just for "services to football"

It's the combo of being a Prem footballer and a champion boxer. Can't think of many others who have done that.
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So essentially failed at the highest level of football, and gave up to get punched in the head for a living?
 
How relevant is he? How many clicks has he gained from this thread?
 
Here's Scholes as a young thug tries to smash him. Got nowhere near the ball, as usual.
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Here you Gerrard literally shitting himself because Scholes has the ball on a string, business as usual.
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Here Gerrard is sent for a coffee and croissant while Scholes is plotting the next 3 passes the ball should make.
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Scholes literally TOWERING above Gerrard. Wow.
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Here, if you notice, Gerrard hasn't even made it into the shot because that's how far ahead Scholes was.
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He hates Utd. had a similar rant a couple years ago about Giggs being over rated.

Bloke is mental
 
Was this the same twat arguing that John Barnes was better than Ryan Giggs too?
 
He wouldn't even pass the Caf newbie system. Not with that attitude :nono:
 
He's a troll and all the United fans with their inferiority complex on twitter are taking the bait. Best thing to do is ignore him and he'll stop.
 
Scholes was setting the tempo in Premier league games in his late 30s for goodness sake.
Gerrard was done the second his physicality eroded
 
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Except in that game Keane and Scholes dominated the midfield to the extent we won with 10 men. Idiot.
 
A man with 3 Premier League games to his name talks down one of the most commonly named "Best player I ever played against" by opposition team players during his active career.

This sounds a lot like a opinion not worthy of a lot of attention.
 
When was Gerrard ever a good centre-midfielder? Let's get something straight for a start. Gerrard was always on the right, or advanced. When he moved back into midfield he had no discipline for it and couldn't dictate for shit. All the Golden Generation bollocks. Hell, even Lampard mostly played in advanced positions. It's inarguable who was the best actual centre-midfielder. After all, it was Scholes who Xavi and Iniesta soiled their pants over watching every weekend on TV, not Stevie Me.
 
Hoof The Ball said:
When was Gerrard ever a good centre-midfielder? Let's get something straight for a start. Gerrard was always on the right, or advanced. When he moved back into midfield he had no discipline for it and couldn't dictate for shit. All the Golden Generation bollocks. Hell, even Lampard mostly played in advanced positions. It's inarguable who was the best actual centre-midfielder. After all, it was Scholes who Xavi and Iniesta soiled their pants over watching every weekend on TV, not Stevie Me.
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Closest that Liverpool ever ran us was 08/09 when their central midfield was Mascherano - Alonso, two proper central midfielders. It is ridiculous that the two (Gerrard and Scholes) are even compared.
 
There's no comparison between the pair, Scholes is head and shoulders and another set of head and shoulders above Gerrard.

The only use of this question, Scholes vs Gerrard, is to find out whether the person, you're asking that question to, knows football.
 
Hoof The Ball said:
When was Gerrard ever a good centre-midfielder? Let's get something straight for a start. Gerrard was always on the right, or advanced. When he moved back into midfield he had no discipline for it and couldn't dictate for shit. All the Golden Generation bollocks. Hell, even Lampard mostly played in advanced positions. It's inarguable who was the best actual centre-midfielder. After all, it was Scholes who Xavi and Iniesta soiled their pants over watching every weekend on TV, not Stevie Me.
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Stobzilla said:
Closest that Liverpool ever ran us was 08/09 when their central midfield was Mascherano - Alonso, two proper central midfielders. It is ridiculous that the two (Gerrard and Scholes) are even compared.
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Gerrard was always at his best trying to make things happen in attack. Patient, precise, intricate football was never his forte. Which is why the Lampard Gerrard thing was such a failure, two attacking midfielders neither of whom excelled in building attacks and running football matches. Hence it's a funny comparison, as they're both so different. Either way, Scholes was better anyday.
 
"Paul Scholes is a role model. For me - and I really mean this - he's the best central midfielder I’ve seen in the last 15, 20 years. I've spoken to Xabi Alonso about him. He's spectacular, he has it all: the last pass, goals, he’s strong, he doesn't lose the ball, vision. If he'd been Spanish he might have been rated more highly. Players love him." – Xavi.

"My toughest opponent.? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation." – Zinedine Zidane.
 
He's got a personal grudge. He played one game against us, he came on as a sub and 5 minutes later Scholes and Veron played through a non existent midfield (where he was supposed to be) for Beckham to take the piss by chipping over the keeper. It was the last time he ever played in the Premier League and the last time he ever played for Birmingham. That's why he hates us. We ended his top flight career. It was a steady decline down to non league irrelevance after that.

 
Twice convicted criminal and former part-time football player doesn't think Scholes was any good. Ok.
 
Hoof The Ball said:
When was Gerrard ever a good centre-midfielder? Let's get something straight for a start. Gerrard was always on the right, or advanced. When he moved back into midfield he had no discipline for it and couldn't dictate for shit. All the Golden Generation bollocks. Hell, even Lampard mostly played in advanced positions. It's inarguable who was the best actual centre-midfielder. After all, it was Scholes who Xavi and Iniesta soiled their pants over watching every weekend on TV, not Stevie Me.
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Gerrard was a good CM under Houllier, he just played in a dogshit team so ended up trying to do everything himself (Hammann wins the ball, gives it to Gerrard, Gerrard either plays long ball over the top to Owen or Gerrard drives through midfield and has a shot). Problem with that was that he never learned discipline and then Rafa indulged his glory seeking by making him into a forward. Under Fergie, young Mourinho or even Wenger (who was still highly respected at the time), I think Gerrard would have gone on to be a genuinely world class box to box midfielder. Ball winner and energy not far off Keane, impact in attack like Lampard. Problem is he never learned the in between bits that a midfielder needs because he should have left for a proper club and coach at 23 but instead got pandered to and ruined.
 
Tom Cato said:
Imagine going public with a opinion and argument that can be refuted with a 3 second google search
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And he calls Giggs overrated too, but according to his metric of the PFA team of the year being one of the highest possible accolades voted for by your fellow professionals, Giggs featured in it 6 times.
 
I heard of this guy about 2013 when he tracked down a Twitter troll. Think he drove over to his street and uploaded a pic of the street sign, obviously causing the troll to quake and apologise profusely.
 
In fairness, I expect we'd all come out with nonsense if we were regularly getting battered in the head.
 
11101 said:
He's got a personal grudge. He played one game against us, he came on as a sub and 5 minutes later Scholes and Veron played through a non existent midfield (where he was supposed to be) for Beckham to take the piss by chipping over the keeper. It was the last time he ever played in the Premier League and the last time he ever played for Birmingham. That's why he hates us. We ended his top flight career. It was a steady decline down to non league irrelevance after that.

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God I loved Veron
 
So. I'm no authority to speak on this but lets just leave this small list of quotes. I rarely see the equivalent about Gerrard. (thanks to this for the list,as I couldn't be bothered to collate myself)

Zinedine Zidane: “My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder.”

Zinedine Zidane : “Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation.”

Ronaldo (Brazilian): “He’s the phenomenon.”

David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent: “He’s always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me ‘what’s he like’? They respect him as a footballer and see him as the ultimate.”

Thierry Henry: “I can’t understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t seek the limelight like some of the other ‘stars’.”

Patrick Vieira: “The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy – Scholes.”

Fabio Capello: “It’s a shame he’s not available to play for England. If he was, he’d be the first name in my squad.”

Edgar Davids: “I’m not the best, Paul Scholes is.”

Edgar Davids: “”Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes.”

Denis Bergkamp: “He’s the master.”

Emmanuel Petit: “At Arsenal me and Patrick (Vieira) didn’t want to face Scholes. We would avoid him.”

Tony Adams: “I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn’t got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn’t get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year.”

Cesc Fabregas: “He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League.”

Sam Allardyce : “There is not a better midfield player in the world.”

Samir Nasri: “Sad to hear Paul Scholes is retiring great player world class player the English Zizou.”
Kevin Keegan: “What United have got that Chelsea haven’t is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football.”

Marcello Lippi: “Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team – that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he’s been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex.”

Ray Wilkins: “I’m saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right throughout Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer.”

Gordon Strachan: “Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You’d probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb.”

Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who’s the best english player : “Paul Scholes.”

Peter Schmeichel: “People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn’t notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen.”

Laurent Blanc: “Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength… all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!”

Glenn Hoddle: “There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world.”

Terry Venables: “He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player.”

Alan Shearer: “If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time.”

Eidur Gudjohnsen: “I’m more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week…Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I’ve ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him.”

Micah Richards: “He’s always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder – when he’s fit, he’s the best. Some go missing but he’s in the right place at the right time. He’s my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it’s a goal, isn’t it?”
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I'll probably listen to Zidane over whoever this guy is.
 
If he says Scholes was a better player nobody would talk about it so he decides to try and make himself relevant again.

He should be ignored
 
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