I wonder if he's Spurs answer to the Eriksen replacement for the season? But if they do sell Eriksen they'd have the money to buy a replacement so maybe they want both (Coutinho and Lo Celso/Fernandes)?
Curious Case of Coutinho...
- Thread starter Cheekiey
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I feel like the fee for Eriksen (if he is sold) will be much smaller than Fernandes or even Lo Celso. He's got 1 year left and the European leagues take the PL for a ride when selling
If Eriksen is ball park £50 mil and Coutinho loan ball park £20 mil, it effectively means a net of only £30 mil and still no player come the 2020/21 season, cannot see Levy taking that deal TBH unless the loan has a very favourable discount next season and first refusal should they choose to sign Coutinho
There would be no meltdown, the most annoying thing is it means Eriksen is United bound which is very good for you. Would it also be a loan or a full transfer ? I can't see Spurs paying the amount needed for him and almost Kane level wages on Coutinho. Sounds too risky for them. A loan would be smarter and easier to get done.
Coutinho would be blessed to get to play under Porch again. It would save his career. Plus benefit Spurs
It'd hurt seeing him play for another PL club.
How old was Coutinho when he played under Poch? Did he even make that many appearances under him? Was very surprised when I heard they worked together previously
Exactly, it would be a terrible move. Coutinho in, Eriksen out will significantly weaken Spurs for me and also, even if Coutinho is incredible, means they're committing to likely an £80m minimum payment next season if they want him which they can't afford.
So I guess if Spurs are signing Dybala then this was the shortest transfer saga in history then?
I think it will be Eriksen to us, Dybala to Spurs and Coutinho to Arsenal.
His form under Poch at Espanyol is what revived his career and got him the Liverpool move.....
Barcelona wanted Neymar. I don’t see how they didn’t try shifting him around and we should have bought him imo.
We should go for Bruno and use Lukaku to get Mandzukic and Douglas Costa. That would put us in a much better position for the start of the season.
I just do not see any way that Bruno joins us after all the denials, I would go Eriksen and then Lukaku to get Matuidi & Sandro/Costa.
I would imagine the loan fee would be both non-refundable and applicable to a final transfer. So they pay 20m for the season, and if they don’t sign him, oh well....expensive loan. If they do, they already have a 20m down payment on an 80m fee. Or whatever the price is. It would be pre-agreed. I would say that is a common arrangement for these types of deals; and the only way it makes sense.
He is a very good player, but was never worth what Barca paid for him.
Despite his scouse roots I like Coutinho,however think even with champions league football he wouldn't entertain the idea of playing for Utd
Madrid will shit a fecking brick if Arsenal get Coutinho on loan and Ceballos gets like 5-10 starts.
Yes they should be buying defenders like it’s going out of fashion, however, Coutinho would still be a massive upgrade on the complete wastrel that is Ozil. Apparently the lazy German’s reps met with DC United officials today about replacing Rooney.
Why aren't Milan in for him?
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Coutinho-Paqueta-Suso
----Kessie---Bennacer--
Tough, athletic midfield pairing behind 3 creators you could let freelance behind a 9 who will score given chances. Sell the painfully average from open play Calhanoglu to pay for a third of it, some German, Prem (he'd help Wolves or Watford quite a bit for instance) or Turkish side would probably be interested if they think their set pieces are going to be shit this year and they could use a starting attacking mid.
-----------Piatek--------
Coutinho-Paqueta-Suso
----Kessie---Bennacer--
Tough, athletic midfield pairing behind 3 creators you could let freelance behind a 9 who will score given chances. Sell the painfully average from open play Calhanoglu to pay for a third of it, some German, Prem (he'd help Wolves or Watford quite a bit for instance) or Turkish side would probably be interested if they think their set pieces are going to be shit this year and they could use a starting attacking mid.
Tough to get a defender this late but if Arsenal could divert the money from Ozil wages to signing a quality defender that would be massive for them.
Yep. Their defence is horrible. Not helped by their DMs being pretty shite too. At least they look good going forward.
I don’t know about Arsenal. They are just kind of there, these days. Don’t really take anything they do seriously anymore. Because they don’t really do anything. The odd interesting signing. Some nice goals. But they haven’t challenged for anything for so long, they feel irrelevant. They show up in the odd final, and you’re always kind of surprised they are there, and just mostly expect them to flop. They just have zero edge. Blandest club going. The new old Tottenham.
Future's not looking that great either, not a lot of early 20s talent apart from Torreira (who wanted to leave?), Bellerin (mercurial), Pepe (we'll see) and then complete wild cards in the real youth. Similar to how Pogba almost definitely saved us from being in the Wolves/Everton/Leicester pack, Aubameyang probably got an extra 10 goals for them (considering he played a fair bit at LW) and as sharp as he's looked this pre-season he's still a 30 year old heavily reliant on pace (not only but without it you'd worry he'd just a good poacher basically) who's played 530 games for club and country. Wouldn't be shocked if he lost a step by next year.
feck me, anybody willing to pay money in the region of 20 million to loan a player plus accommodate their wages must have fecking rocks in their head.
Barcelona literally do not want him at their club and cannot afford his wages. The feck you paying them to pay his wages. Perhaps if the stupid fecks hadnt paid a frankly insane amount of money for him, they would have been able to get rid far easier.
Barcelona literally do not want him at their club and cannot afford his wages. The feck you paying them to pay his wages. Perhaps if the stupid fecks hadnt paid a frankly insane amount of money for him, they would have been able to get rid far easier.
Liverpool signed him from Inter didn't they?
Eriksen must be on his way. Coutinho looks like he'll be a Spurs player and they've had a bid accepted for Dybala as well as credible links to Lo Celso and Fernandes. Can't help but feel like there's going to be a big transfer merry-go-round in the next day or so and we're going to miss out and be stuck with two players who'd rather be somewhere else. If Spurs somehow pull off Dybala considering the whole image rights thing I'll be livid.
So it's fine to join Spurs? Clearly his "respect" for the scousers only goes so far
He was on loan at espanyol
Scenes when Spurs get Coutinho and Dybala, Madrid take Eriksen and we keep J Lingz.
Scary.
Kane
Coutinho - Dybala - Son
NDombele - Winks
Coutinho - Dybala - Son
NDombele - Winks
Scary.
Maybe just me but I don't rate Coutinho.
Not just you, wondering how many people actually watched him play for Barcelona last season... There is a reason no clubs interested for the money Barcelona want...
Bizarre- there’s no particular rivalry between spurs and Liverpool.
In answer to the question, yes it is fine to join spurs, Liverpool fans won’t have an issue with that at all.
Possibly true. Wouldn't want him at United and I think he will flop wherever he ends up.
nothing to do with Liverpool fans: Michael Owen didn't care what they thought. I'm talking about Coutinho
Who had him on loan at Espanyol at the time....
Like they will care. They have never truly rated Ceballos. I've never understood why they ever signed him
I don't think they will take both and Alli starts for Spurs in the Lampard role, IMO. Midfield and attack consisting of Kane, Coutinho/Dybala, Alli, Son, Ndombele and Winks ain't too bad. But there are no certain things in football, in my opinion they are going to miss Eriksen deeply and not sure whether Ndombele and Coutinho/Dybala make that big of an instant improvement. On paper, the third best team in the country. But with proper coaching the likes of United and Chelsea could get third place, IMO.
I wouldnt mind Coutinho, he can play many positions in our system and we need more creativity.
I've never rated Coutinho and think the price Barca paid for him was outrageous. But Liverpool would hate it. We're desperate. So i'm up for it.