Cristiano Ronaldo

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Yeah, right. Aguero-Higuain-Di Maria-Lavezzi support cast is same as Nani-Eder etc... Also, playing against Nigeria and Iran is same as playing vs Germany and USA/Ghana.
it's not about the names, its about how they play. argentina's attack has been invisible regarding aguero and higuain's contributions, and now aguero is going to miss the rest of the tournament due to injury, tellingly, some consider this a blessing to argentina considering how poor he's been.
 
Yeah, right. Aguero-Higuain-Di Maria-Lavezzi support cast is same as Nani-Eder etc... Also, playing against Nigeria and Iran is same as playing vs Germany and USA/Ghana.

Aguero and Higuain have been as good as Helder Postiga this world cup. Lavezzi was nothing more than a substitute this far. All 4 of Messis goals were individual brilliance (apart from the 1-0 against Nigeria).
 
have been here before with Ronaldo, could have had 3-4 more today! Even not 100% fit he's still that big a threat.

Really is a shame the team round him are so pony.
Nani was at his pure infuriating worse today

What a contradicting post. Ronaldo has been just as crap as his team mates.

Nani is the true marmalade player.
 
Such a shame that Ronaldo does this with the World Cup which was supposed to put him even further up in terms of histories greatest footballers. Wasn't even his teams best player this time around.
 
it's not about the names, its about how they play. argentina's attack has been invisible regarding aguero and higuain's contributions, and now aguero is going to miss the rest of the tournament due to injury, tellingly, some consider this a blessing to argentina considering how poor he's been.
Aguero and Higuain have been as good as Helder Postiga this world cup. Lavezzi was nothing more than a substitute this far. All 4 of Messis goals were individual brilliance (apart from the 1-0 against Nigeria).

They haven't been good is a different thing. You can still count on any of them producing moment of magic. You can't expect Helder Postiga or Eder to create magical moments. As far as Aguero is concerned, I think how he was used was a problem.
Also Lavezzi being kept as sub is coach's problem imo because he has good chemistry with Messi. It is coach's problem he is trying to fit in Messi, Aguero and Higuain in same team. Better have Lavezzi instead of Aguero and have Aguero as sub to unlock later. Imagine having Aguero as sub! Portugal doesn't have such luxury.
Also, the oppositions were Iran and Nigeria for Messi and a Bosnia team which isn't top threat by any stretch of imagination so there is no point saying Messi on his own took Argentina into knockouts. Had Messi been in this Portugal team and in that group, Portugal would have still gone out.
 
Lets not sugarcoat it, he's been terrible, and fluffed their best chances. Shame. He'll be more pissed off than anyone though.
 
Lets not sugarcoat it, he's been terrible, and fluffed their best chances. Shame. He'll be more pissed off than anyone though.

He looked like he couldn't care less.
 
Possibly a byproduct of his injury ? What sort of performance should one realistically expect from a player with a bad knee ?

It's not just his performance, read my post on previous page.
 
Will Ronaldo be this good in 4 years? I really don't know. There is no way he will be as fast and powerful.

Will Ronaldo be able to alter his game when he loses his insane speed? Will he ever lose that freakish speed? Is he on steroids?
 
Possibly a byproduct of his injury ? What sort of performance should one realistically expect from a player with a bad knee ?
Im not buying this injury BS, they could have taken him off Vs Germany when the game was lost but didnt. He has played full matches this whole tournament. He was just crap and people dont want to admit it.
 
It's not just his performance, read my post on previous page.

Well what else is there beyond his performance ? Do you actually think a Portuguese lad, who happens to be captain of his national team and World Player of the year, would go to Brazil of all places, and not give a shit ? Its obvious he's barely playing at 70-80% of his usual capacity.
 
Im not buying this injury BS, they could have taken him off Vs Germany when the game was lost but didnt. He has played full matches this whole tournament. He was just crap and people dont want to admit it.

I understand the self-aggrandizing, knee jerk nature of wanting to say he's lazy and crap, but he has been injured. Didn't the Portuguese team Dr. say he was risking his career in staying on the pitch ? That doesn't sound like a minor injury either, so maybe the insufferably tedious pitchfork brigade can give it a rest this time.
 
I understand the self-aggrandizing, knee jerk nature of wanting to say he's lazy and crap, but he has been injured. Didn't the Portuguese team Dr. say he was risking his career in staying on the pitch ? That doesn't sound like a minor injury either, so maybe the insufferably tedious pitchfork brigade can give it a rest this time.

But if it's really that risky, why does he even play then? He's played the full 90 minutes in all 3 games (I think), why would he risk his career in todays game when it was pretty much impossible for Portugal to go through anyway?
 
But if it's really that risky, why does he even play then? He's played the full 90 minutes in all 3 games (I think), why would he risk his career in todays game when it was pretty much impossible for Portugal to go through anyway?

I agree, he should've probably not been playing at all. I'm guessing he bullied his way into starting the last two games, because he's Ronaldo - and Bento, who has been criticized back home, capitulated knowing he didn't have much of an option.
 
have been here before with Ronaldo, could have had 3-4 more today! Even not 100% fit he's still that big a threat.

Really is a shame the team round him are so pony.
Nani was at his pure infuriating worse today


Huh?
I'm really struggling to understand this. Ronaldo was put clear once, was asset up for a tap-in thrice, and scored once.

Nani was anonymous till the end of the match, made no silly mistakes, didn't give the ball away, won a few tackles, and put a glorious cross Ronaldo would have scored from 9 times out of 10. How was he at his infuriating worst?
 
I guess
I understand the self-aggrandizing, knee jerk nature of wanting to say he's lazy and crap, but he has been injured. Didn't the Portuguese team Dr. say he was risking his career in staying on the pitch ? That doesn't sound like a minor injury either, so maybe the insufferably tedious pitchfork brigade can give it a rest this time.
It's pointless trying to reason with some of these Ronaldo haters. No matter what he does they always find a reason to justify their negative comments. He is injured we have all seen the difference when he is fit. I think some of them are even more upset about the fact he won't be around for them to make their sarcastic comments.
 
I guess

It's pointless trying to reason with some of these Ronaldo haters. No matter what he does they always find a reason to justify their negative comments. He is injured we have all seen the difference when he is fit. I think some of them are even more upset about the fact he won't be around for them to make their sarcastic comments.

Ronaldo certainly isn't above criticism, but he's obviously not at 100% now, so its a bit bizarre that he's being attacked for not playing at the usual 100% world beater Ronaldo level.
 
He was crap. He probably wasn't even his sides best player. He could have put Portugal through on his own today if his finishing hadn't been dire. Overall performance and attitude were poor.

Dem's the facts.
 
Good performance from him. Unlucky with couple of chances, on another could easily have had 3-4. With such an average and more than that, bunch of idiots around him in national team, he could have hardly gone much better in World Cup.

Hi Ronnie. Better luck next time, thought you should have taken at least 1 of your 5 sitters.
 
I don't understand the speculation about his fitness. He already admitted he's not 100% after the USA game and I've mentioned it in the previous page.
 
I don't understand the speculation about his fitness. He already admitted he's not 100% after the USA game and I've mentioned it in the previous page.

Its because we have a few posters who like to improve their e-self esteem by taking cheap shots at players, and Ronaldo is usually the easiest target.
 
I don't understand the speculation about his fitness. He already admitted he's not 100% after the USA game and I've mentioned it in the previous page.

..but that will mean lesser chance for people to criticize him, so let's pretend he is as fit as ever at the moment.
 
Apparently good saves by GK nowadays are called missed sitters by opposition players. Or maybe it applies only to Ronaldo...who knows..

Yeah the word "sitters" seems to be overused by a few posters. Every vague goal scoring opportunity is now suddenly a sitter.
 
Yeah the word "sitters" seems to be overused by a few posters. Every vague goal scoring opportunity is now suddenly a sitter.

I think a full day the discussion continued in Rooney thread over his missed 'sitter' header and many of us were at pains explaining how those chances are not sitters.
Admittedly, in this game, those were the chances Ronaldo scores from more often than not but they were not missed sitters. All were going on target at good pace but ended up little close to keeper and keeper did well too. I think the one he scored from was actually a tough one as it was left foot volley.
 
This is desperate, when you have a free effort in front of goal it's a sitter. And like it or not these are excuses.
 
Where are the five sitters ?

In on goal against Germany, shoots straight at the keeper. In on goal against USA slices wide with a wild effort.

Then you had about 3 or 4 alone today, free header put straight at the keeper, chance 4 yards out from the nani cross, in on goal at the end and hit straight at the keeper again, and another tame effort right at the keeper from a cut back from the left.

These were all clear cut chances you'd expect any top striker to take, whether you like it or not. Had it been Nani or anyone else missing them they'd have been slaughtered and we all know it.
 
In on goal against Germany, shoots straight at the keeper. In on goal against USA slices wide with a wild effort.

Then you had about 3 or 4 alone today, free header put straight at the keeper, chance 4 yards out from the nani cross, in on goal at the end and hit straight at the keeper again, and another tame effort right at the keeper from a cut back from the left.

These were all clear cut chances you'd expect any top striker to take, whether you like it or not. Had it been Nani or anyone else missing them they'd have been slaughtered and we all know it.

Well yes, a top forward who is uninjured may well take advantage of some of them. Also, a chance on goal is not a sitter.
 
Well yes, a top forward who is uninjured may well take advantage of some of them. Also, a chance on goal is not a sitter.

I'm not going to waste my time. His injury isn't anywhere near as bad as some are making out to be, if he was even injured at all. And it certainly shouldn't prevent him from finishing right in front of goal.

I knew the excuses would come out if he didn't play well anyway.
 
I'm not going to waste my time. His injury isn't anywhere near as bad as some are making out to be, if he was even injured at all. And it certainly shouldn't prevent him from finishing right in front of goal.

I knew the excuses would come out if he didn't play well anyway.

If you're denying he was ever injured in the first place there's no point in proceeding with this.
 
If you're denying he was ever injured in the first place there's no point in proceeding with this.

You're right, it's pointless arguing it with someone who doesn't think a free shot on goal 6 yards out is a sitter. Carry on though by all means.
 
Well what else is there beyond his performance ? Do you actually think a Portuguese lad, who happens to be captain of his national team and World Player of the year, would go to Brazil of all places, and not give a shit ? Its obvious he's barely playing at 70-80% of his usual capacity.

He was smiling at the end with some Ghana players while lot of his teammates were crying. He wasn't celebrating his teammate goals. Injury has stopped him from celebrating his team goals? As I said, he isn't the best captain you'll see.
 
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