Tell me, do you complain when Lewandowski score tap-ins for Bayern?
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Tell me, do you complain when Lewandowski score tap-ins for Bayern?
Of course not. I am also not hyping them up.
So Ronaldo leaving the game improved Portugal is what you‘re saying..?
So, you dont think he deserved Ballon Dor in 2020 then, good to know.
That is a different question and has nothing to do with what i wrote. So please don’t put words into my mouth.
But if you are really interested in my opinion (which i somehow doubt): i believe that the Ballon d‘Or should go to the „best“ player, not the one who‘s team managed to win the most trophies. For me Messi is the best player and he should have won the last 10 or 15 Ballon d‘Ors.
Fair enough.
Personally i dont like the Ballon Dor anyway, because one cant compare a defender to a midfielder, or a midfielder with a striker.
Well in my opinion that’s a daft metric. Performance and ability, married to success has to be a metric.
If Messi;
- missed a penalty in the last game of the season to hand Real a title
- Scored an own goal in the WC final to gift Brazil the win
- Got sent off in the first minute of the CL final as Barca lost to United
… he’d still quite obviously be the best player in the world, but nobody is going to hand him the Ballon d’Or that year. He could average two goals a game for a whole season that year and still lose.
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Mate, I explicitly wrote „in my opinion“.
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Only thing wrong is your reply.
he had an assist in the semi final and was pretty good against Columbia
More like interrupting the game affected France and his injury changed the mood in the stadium. Then again that was my perception but if you didn't watch the game don't take my word for granted.
No, i understood. Ronaldo getting injured was good for Portugal since it changed the mood in the stadium and inevitably lead to their win.
Imagine living in a time in which two of the best players of all time, are playing at exactly the same time, and spending all that time tryito decide which is better.
It’s a new disease. I love Messi. I wish I’d seen him more. I love Ronaldo. I’m glad I saw him lots. At no point do I go near a thought of a binary ‘who is/was better’. It’s such a reductive and stunted mindset that really says something about those that engage in it.
I wonder how many posts in this thread of 224 pages mention or reference Messi. A depressing number I bet. I’ve just added to it of course. Nobody wins.
It’s a new disease. I love Messi. I wish I’d seen him more. I love Ronaldo. I’m glad I saw him lots. At no point do I go near a thought of a binary ‘who is/was better’. It’s such a reductive and stunted mindset that really says something about those that engage in it.
I wonder how many posts in this thread of 224 pages mention or reference Messi. A depressing number I bet. I’ve just added to it of course. Nobody wins.
You can appreciate both but still argue about whom you believe is better.
I always find people who come into these threads and act as if they're some elevated being because they don't comment who they think is better to be equally as tedious tbh. Humans are naturally analytical and social otherwise this forum wouldn't exist. People are also tribal, hence you can find people who live in Mumbai or Vancouver and have only watched United through their laptop having an irrational hatred for someone just because they happen to have a contract with Liverpool.
In a world where there are people arguing if the world is round or flat, people arguing about the two best players of this generation on a football forum shouldn't surprise you. It's not that serious mate
You can appreciate both but still argue about whom you believe is better.
I always find people who come into these threads and act as if they're some elevated being because they don't comment who they think is better to be equally as tedious tbh. Humans are naturally analytical and social otherwise this forum wouldn't exist. People are also tribal, hence you can find people who live in Mumbai or Vancouver and have only watched United through their laptop having an irrational hatred for someone just because they happen to have a contract with Liverpool.
In a world where there are people arguing if the world is round or flat, people arguing about the two best players of this generation on a football forum shouldn't surprise you. It's not that serious mate
Your comparison of Messi vs Ronaldo people & Flat Earthers is spot on.
Messi was carrying an injury. Given you are a Ronaldo fan, I'd strongly recommend you NEVER comment on performances in finals
Again, Messi was carrying an injury in both those games.
Regardless, he won both the golden Boot and the best player of the tournament award. He had the highest assists, created the most chance, was near the top of dribbling charts etc etc.
Without belittling Ronaldo, he was nowhere near as good for Portugal in any tournament.
Yeah, something like that. Of course there were other individual actions that actually took place on the pitch that were decisive for Portugal to win and it was such an unthinkable outcome that I think every little thing counted for that win.
I give it up. Your are arguing like a kid here, or stubborn old man.
Lads, I know some of you are overly excited about Messi finally winning trophy for Argentina, but please take all the Messi vs Ronaldo talk in another thread. Really there is no need to keep invading Ronaldo thread to prove a point, there’s already a huge thread out there for the battlefield. The last few pages here has been 80% about Messi vs Ronaldo. Behave…
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Well it’s easy to blame it all on one poster isn’t it? We are not some 5 year old kid or someone named Trump, and it doesn’t work that way. Everyone have to somehow draw the line and behave…
Well in your post, you specifically mentioned “some of you are overly excited that messi finally winning something for Argentina”, it is obvious which camp you are trying to blame.
I merely pointed out it started not by the messi fanboys but by a CR7 fanboy.
If you truly meant “everyone has to somehow draw a line”, then you will not have pushed the blame to the messi camp in your initial statement, but rather addressed your statement to both camps.
You are right we are not 5 years old, it is not difficult to read the context of your post. Oh also, you have also easily blamed 1 camp.
I am not blaming particular group, but afterall this Ronaldo thread, do you think its appropriate place to keep talking down Ronaldo here while keep mentioning Messi? Sure for Ronaldo fans there no right for us to talk down Messi here too, but we do have many “home fans” here for Ronaldo, and I know many Messi fans like to come here from time to time for the intention to provoke, we have to protect our own ground too.
But just to be fair, more often it’s a case of reaction to provocation, from either sides. So I am just saying, everyone have to try to behave abit here…and take the battleground to elsewhere if possible.
Oh, so it’s carrying an injury now is it? Funny that didn’t apply when Ronaldo played injured in the 2014 WC.
Ronaldo won the golden boot at the Euro too, or did you conveniently forget? He was also Portugal’s top scorer and top assist provider when they won 5 years ago.
But let’s not let facts get in the way of a good anti-Ronaldo rant.
Messi was carrying a hamstring injury in the semi and the final. This was confirmed by his coach. And he wasn't just Argentina's top scorer or assister but led the way in pretty much every attacking statistic one can think off in the whole tournament. Messi has been voted player of the tournament 3 times.Oh, so it’s carrying an injury now is it? Funny that didn’t apply when Ronaldo played injured in the 2014 WC.
Ronaldo won the golden boot at the Euro too, or did you conveniently forget? He was also Portugal’s top scorer and top assist provider when they won 5 years ago.
But let’s not let facts get in the way of a good anti-Ronaldo rant.
Ronaldo's golden boot consisted of 3 penalties, a tap in and 1 decent goal.
Ronaldo scored 3 goals and had 2 assists in 2016 euros. The goals were vs Hungary and Wales. One of the assists was a mis hit shot vs Wales. He has never been player of the tournament.
He wasn't brilliant in either tournament. Really good for his age in 2021 but not among the best performers and (rightly) didn't even make the team of the tournament. In 2016 he did well, but again, not a standout performer or even close to that.Oh, so it’s carrying an injury now is it? Funny that didn’t apply when Ronaldo played injured in the 2014 WC.
Ronaldo won the golden boot at the Euro too, or did you conveniently forget? He was also Portugal’s top scorer and top assist provider when they won 5 years ago.
But let’s not let facts get in the way of a good anti-Ronaldo rant.
But I agree that the Messi stuff doesn't belong in this thread.
Alright, I agree with you that comps should be done in the right thread. Cheers
Genuinely thought he would move to PSG next summer and that's impossible now. There were many rumours Juve would happily sell him but with those wages it was impossible so what options he has in 2022? No doubt Ronaldo will continue in Europe for another year or two.
Now the highest paid player in the world.
I think there's only Germany or France left for him if he wanted to try a different league. Don't think there aren't any realistic options there so he's better staying at Juventus unless some Premier League club was interested in him retiring there.
Hold on to your nipples, it's offside!!!
Quality.
what a ridiculous offside
That wouldn't be offside in the PL this season I wouldn't think, and rightfully so.
Boo
Suprised how close the offside was in real time I thought he was fairly easily off
Premature there bud
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