From United, Real and Juventus, to City. Well, I guess Ronaldo is getting old now. Not many options.
Cristiano Ronaldo | Signs for United! Fcuk City
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You really think those are all better players? I mean, I get blind loyalty but this is something else. How many of the above do you think are in the conversation for top five of all time?
Rather Ronaldo win them then the scousers!
Like I say, the definition of what constitutes a club legend is different for everyone.
Are you both saying that if Ronaldo had less ambition to win trophies and joined Leeds United instead of City, you would be ok with that and still consider him a legend?
Really? Damn.
It’s just City trying to emulate us again. We built our way to the top, developing top players like Ronaldo. City buy them, they’d buy a fan base if they thought they could. 
You ignored my reply earlier. Bobby Charlton won the European Cup, World Cup, League and Balon d'or at United and scoring twice in our first ever European Cup win. He also ended his career the record scorer and appearance maker for his club and country. How is Ronaldo's 6 seasons at United far better than that? How is Charlton not even close?
Best, Charlton, Cantona & Keane are the four that immediately stand out.
Law Charlton and Best with out a doubt, but who is a legend or best ever player is very subjective.
It’s not really that complicated. With what Ronaldo won at Utd of course he’s a Utd legend currently. The only reason some people say otherwise is because he left us for Madrid and achieved even more! His performances for Utd alone are by far enough to earn him legend status. However, there are of course some players who are bigger legends than others (frankly that’s fecking obvious). The class of 92 not only brought success but also a fierce loyalty and love for Utd and Utd alone. Of course that elevates them as legends, even if individually they never peaked as high as Ronaldo do. That’s simply because Ronaldo is one of the best to ever play the game, only a handful of players in history have his combination of talent and drive. No other player comes close for me in terms of his Utd peak.
You're speaking to people who haven't been supporting the club long or either have a very different understanding of what a 'legend' actually is
Not the same type of player. Cavani can make an impact because he is still all action. He is drifting left and right and pressing off the ball. That’s not Ronaldo because he can’t do that or simply doesn’t want to.
Cavani scoring goals means very little for Ronaldos chances. I can’t think of any strikers who lose their pace or become static off the ball that is a success in England. Aguero himself is a great example of this.
How many people outside of United fans do you think have those three top five of all time? How many do you think have Ronaldo? I think that tells you something. I agree that they're bigger United legends and did more for us but better players overall? Not for me.
So you think Best Law and Charlton are not even close to Ronaldo. That is just crazy.
Where have I said I dislike Ronaldo ?
The other three are obvious "United legends" by almost any standard. Ronaldo isn't an obvious "United legend" for a large segment of our fan base. That's just a fact - it seems hard for Ronaldo fans (who also identify as United fans) to accept this, but there it is.
And - yes, Law is a "United legend" (by almost any standard) in spite of the fact that he played for City *. So - it isn't about that. It's the overall context.
The bit in bold is irrelevant. Why would him elevating his status after he left United make him more of a "United legend"?
* His famous reaction to scoring that goal probably boosted his status as a legend more than anything.
Holy crap. That’s an impressive effort - how do you find the financial toll?
Let’s just take cantona as an example though. I mean he’s clearly just not the better footballer is he? Yes he’s a bigger legend, he’s the bloody king! But ignore that for a second and he was playing at Leeds for years under the radar. He was probably not even the best player to play in the premier league, in fact none of those players (bar maybe Best,Charlton). Ronaldo was the best player to ever step foot in the premier league and had he stayed at this club, not only would be our record goal scorer but he would have absolutely smashed the premier league goal record too. I just need to understand by which metrics you are judging ‘better’ based upon, it quite clearly isn’t peak or ability.
Christ on a bike I haven’t argued once in this thread about his legend status at Utd. Can you please just read what I’m saying. He’s quite clearly NOT the biggest Utd LEGEND. He is however the BEST PLAYER (based on ability, peak, and achievements) ever to play for Utd. That is the entirety of my point.
Twelve years is a long time out of the premier league for Ronaldo, it wont be easy for him this time around.
When he comes back with city would it be rude for the announcer not to say, welcome back Cristianoooo Ronaldoooooo?
Players move/change clubs. His contributions for and while at United are legendary.
Had he stayed at the club, but he didn't. He gave us two immense seasons prior to that he was frustrating. His status and fanbase has increased since joining Real..these aren't United fans, they love Ronaldo the Real legend.
Cristiano scored 36 goals last season. He's neither static nor has he lost pace
He'll break the great mans heart if he goes that plastic soulless club who can't fill a 40000 seat stadium.
Joining Leeds is certainly more palatable than joining City yes, but it’s a moot point because one of the greatest of all time isn’t joining Leeds whereas there are only a very small pool of teams better than Utd.
Mendi charged with rape.
I’m of the opinion it’s hard to compare footballers that far apart in generations. Charlton is a fair shout, maybe best but I think in the modern era (which lets be honest most people refer too) he’s objectively the best player we have had.
Rooney did stay at the club and did become our record goal scorer. That doesn't make him our best ever player.
It’s just City trying to emulate us again. We built our way to the top, developing top players like Ronaldo. City buy them, they’d buy a fan base if they thought they could.
I think they might accomplish that, to a degree, with this move.
All the CR7 fanboys will flock. That may not translate to the stadium but will boost there global recognition.
Doesn't really matter what he did outside of United. As United players go Rooney was far better.
Alright - sorry, I just assumed you were talking about the "legend" status.
Whether he's actually the best (based on your criteria) is still debatable - but fair enough, I misread your post.
I mean Best is a legend and a genius, he was also a chronic alcoholic who if he played in the modern era wouldn’t have matched Ronaldo. It’s stupid to compare across that amount of time anyway, same with dragging pele into the Goat debate. It’s almost a different sport.
Did he peak higher than Ronaldo at Utd?
Impact on the team. Ronaldo was incredible, no doubt about it. He was a big part of an incredible team. Cantona & Keane led teams to titles & trophies they had no right winning.
Cantona suffers from being so early in the PL era otherwise it would be more than just United fans who rate him as highly & Keane is one that history has looked back on unkindly because he’s looked at as a thug basically. But they were both unbelievable footballers.
Ronaldo peaked after he left United so it’s unfair to use his peak as a comparison metric.
He’s a prick and I’m not surprised he would go to City. As soon as he was good enough he wanted out of here even comparing not being able to move to slavery. His movie where we’re barely mentioned should’ve let everyone know how he views us.
I feel sad for the Ronaldo worshippers who insisted he cared about United. No doubt in my mind before we play city, he’s going to make some comment that he still loves United and they’ll eat it up.
I feel sad for the Ronaldo worshippers who insisted he cared about United. No doubt in my mind before we play city, he’s going to make some comment that he still loves United and they’ll eat it up.
Of course what he did after Utd has elevated his Utd career, because it now means that we were privileged to watch one of the best of all time play for our club. The fact he went on to achieve so much just adds to the amazing things he did for Utd. I don’t love him because of his Real spell, I love him because of what he did for Utd. That’s what he ruins by going to city.
fair point, I don't dislike Ronaldo and think he has improved as a player since he left us, I just personally don't think he is our best ever player, simple as that.
No but he was better overall which is again far more important than peaks
No because in the time they were at the club together Ronaldo was clearly the better player under every metric both measurable and observable!
Ronaldo will have seen the Champions League draw and swiftly hung up on Pep. He doesn't want to get smoked by Messi again.
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