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We took Owen from Liverpool!
A no mark with broken knees who even Liverpool fans didnt particularly like.
We took Owen from Liverpool!
I'll be quite disappointed if this happens tbh, which at this point is looking inevitable. I get that he last played for us more than 12 years ago, but joining the arch-rivals is never okay imo. What if he gets Man City the goals they need to win the League, and we finish 2nd because of it?
Why not if we can? Why don't the owners not take dividend this year, and instead pay Ronaldo that money?Not signing Ronaldo in 2021 is probably the best thing United can do. He's the epitome of a short term fix and getting him would not address the main issues we have of chance creation and the screening of our defence.
Most of our signings post Fergie were made with zero long term vision of building a squad. They were a mixture of players desperately needed to plug a gap and also trying to scrabble around to attract any sort of big name signing we could.
We're in a much healthier position now due to eschewing the older way and now actually recruiting players who are good now but could be even better a few years down the line. That's not Ronaldo.
What does SIUUU mean? Seen it posted a few timesSorry Rooney. Better prepare yourself for Ronaldo's SIUUUU at OT after scoring against us for City.
Mbappe to Real, Ronaldo to PSG.
Ronaldo
Neymar Messi
Still holding out hopes that happens but not optimistic at all, strange we weren't all over this when it looked like Edi was planning on heading back to Uruguay particularly with this potential situation of him missing a host of matches
I don't think Ronaldo wants to play on the same team as Messi. His galaxy-sized ego wouldn't that.
Feck it we should try and hijack this move with Edi likely to miss quite a few games to save our number 9 situation
I’m a little out of the loop here and this is off topic but why is Cavani likely to miss out on games?
Agreed interms of consistent threat in a game. I hated him and feared him when he played vs us. But now that le Arse are shit, I can accept it without issue.Peak Henry. That man was something else at his peak. Better than Ronaldo 07/08. 25 goals and 20 assists in the league is outrageous. Also the eye test is telling me Henry was better. Just a better all around player.
Interms of all round play, they are and have never been at the same level but Ronaldo's goals and longevity mean the rest is ignored and he is rightfully considered one of the greats (top 5 or at worst top 10).Errr… I get that people would hate Ronaldo now if he moves to City, but for feck sake he has won 5 Ballon D’ors, 5 CL and scored nearly 800 career goals (more than Pele), you can’t really say he is not comparable to Messi, and even behind the likes of Rooney, Giggs, Beckham etc, when only very few in history could compare with his achievements (maybe only Pele and Messi could compare)
The man scored 101 goals in 134 games and 22 assists.Ronaldo has always been about Ronaldo. He knows that goalscorers always get attention hence he has pretty much focused on that through his career.
BTW sorry to @RedRonaldo @SportingCP96 et al but if he does leave Juve, his time there will be considered a failure. Apparently according to you fanboys he had the ability to single handedly win the UCL but his time at Juve has overwhelmingly proven otherwise. People forget the other 10 world class players at Madrid who facilitated his tap ins.
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Agreed. I hated him and feared him when he played vs us. But now that le Arse are shit, I can accept it without issue. We played against Ronaldo a few times and I never found him to be a consistent threat.
The thing about Ronaldo (even in his prime) is that many a times he can be completely shit or anonymous all game but still score a hat trick. Than everything bad about his performance is forgotten. That is probably what makes him such a dangerous opponent; it's like playing against some two faced terrorist.
Interms of all round play, they are and have never been at the same level but Ronaldo's goals and longevity mean the rest is ignored and he is rightfully considered one of the greats (top 5 or at worst top 10).
Umm who said this? Sounds like something messi fangirls made up again has barca been winning it every year?BTW sorry to @RedRonaldo @SportingCP96 et al but if he does leave Juve, his time there will be considered a failure when all is said and done. Apparently according to you fanboys he had the ability to single handedly win the UCL but his time at Juve has overwhelmingly proven otherwise. People forget the other 10 world class players at Madrid who facilitated his tap ins.
Loosing to City feels like loosing to the legendary CPU in FIFA to me. It doesn't mean a god damn thing. They won the lottery and now they're winning some trophies, who cares. They don't feel like a real competitor to me, they're just a nice benchmark to aspire to on the pitch. But it is also a bit sad really, because the City fan didn't have a say in the matter at all, winning the lottery just happened to them. And deep down, all the wins must feel a bit hollow in some ways.I'd say Man City are not a Man Utd rival because they are so far ahead of us on the pitch.
We can make history jibes all we want, call them plastic but they are simply the best team in the land right now, even without a European Cup to offer.
Ronaldo has always been about Ronaldo. He knows that goalscorers always get attention hence he has pretty much focused on that through his career.
BTW sorry to @RedRonaldo @SportingCP96 et al but if he does leave Juve, his time there will be considered a failure when all is said and done. Apparently according to you fanboys he had the ability to single handedly win the UCL but his time at Juve has overwhelmingly proven otherwise. People forget the other 10 world class players at Madrid who facilitated his tap ins.
Agreed interms of consistent threat in a game. I hated him and feared him when he played vs us. But now that le Arse are shit, I can accept it without issue.
The thing about Ronaldo (even in his prime) is that many a times he can be completely shit or anonymous all game but still score a hat trick. Than everything bad about his performance is forgotten. That is probably what makes him such a dangerous opponent even more than Henry; it's like playing against some two faced terrorist.
I remember our matches vs Madrid in 2013. We stopped him easily but he still managed to poach the all important goals in both legs. Ditto the Madrid matches vs Wolfsburg, vs Bayern, vs Atletico and United matches vs Liverpool in 08/09, Arsenal in 07/08 etc
Interms of all round play, they are and have never been at the same level but Ronaldo's goals and longevity mean the rest is ignored and he is rightfully considered one of the greats (top 5 or at worst top 10).
I don't think they are that far ahead on the pitch. Ole does OK against Peps City in matches. I just think they have better consistency over the course of a season..Loosing to City feels like loosing to the legendary CPU in FIFA to me. It doesn't mean a god damn thing. They won the lottery and now they're winning some trophies, who cares. They don't feel like a real competitor to me, they're just a nice benchmark to aspire to on the pitch. But it is also a bit sad really, because the City fan didn't have a say in the matter at all, winning the lottery just happened to them. And deep down, all the wins must feel a bit hollow in some ways.
I don't think they are that far ahead on the pitch. Ole does OK against Peps City in matches. I just think they have better consistency over the course of a season..
Not sure how that is a bad thing. You mean by scoring more goals than them?. Doesn't matter how you get them. Let's be honest. We raise our game to play City. To them it's just another match.Yeah by that sitting back and counter attacking
Mbappe to Real, Ronaldo to PSG.
Ronaldo
Neymar Messi
Errr that’s a bit of a stretch. He spend 6 years at United, 9 years at Real and 3 years at Juventus… winning everything for every clubs he played for. You are making him sound like Ibra who was looking for a move every 2-3 years or so. Players you regard as bigger legend, such as Beckham (5 clubs), Best (over 9 clubs) etc were even worse. And then there were other legends like Law (4 clubs), Keane (4 clubs) who aren’t exactly better.I should clarify: I’m not saying they’re better players than Ronaldo, but that they all meant more to the club and achieved more honours for the club than Ronaldo did. Ronaldo was a key part of the club, but he was by no means the star that he is today. He was not the biggest fish in the pond during his time at United.
That said, he was young and he wasn’t even in his prime. He gave us great years and was vital to our success.
Sadly for him, he’ll never achieve the Messi levels of adulation that Messi had at Barcelona. Coming up in Barcelona’s system and spending 95% of his career there cements his status. Ronaldo left Sporting, bailed on United, then forced his way out of Madrid before now refusing to play for Juventus. He’s forced his way out of 4 teams and I don’t think any of those fanbases Will go rabid to see him in the building in 30 years
He didn't.Dennis Law played for City, scored the goal that relegated us. I remember that moment well. He is still a player we all loved.
Yep, SAF did it to barca. That's how you do it.Yeah by that sitting back and counter attacking
PSG made it clear they don't want him. He wouldn't want to be in Messi's shadow, anyways, in my opinion because it must be a blow to his ego.I don't see Messi and Neymar as a big ego-players. Maybe Neymar, but when you compare them with Ronaldo, well, no one comes close.
Ronaldo won't go to PSG. Playing in the same team as Messi would destroy his image. Everyone would see the abysmal difference.
Well if you want to be pedantic then technically it didnt relegate us as it wouldnt have mattered what the result was. It was however the last game of the season. So carry on being pedanticHe didn't.
Keane also didn't end Haaland's career.
That would be ace but something tells me that he is doing this for himself. You know Ronnie.Wouldn’t it be funny if he did this as a big wind up to City. They put all there efforts into getting him until last minute and he says no, so they don’t have time to get anyone else
No wrong, we were already down on other results. Thought every United fan knew thisDennis Law played for City, scored the goal that relegated us. I remember that moment well. He is still a player we all loved.
I agree with those who have said he is doing it to ‘out-do’ Messi and boost up his ego.That would be ace but something tells me that he is doing this for himself. You know Ronnie.
The problem is Law (Or to some extent Cole & Big Pete) gave top level service to United for their entire prime and went to City like some sort of lowly retirement home.Dennis Law played for City, scored the goal that relegated us. I remember that moment well. He is still a player we all loved.
True, although we should get closer to double.Sell Lingard, Jones, Bailey, Mata, Perreira, Dalot, Chong and Tuanzabe. If you can't get 70 mil for that lot then whoever is in charge needs sacking!
Nothing pedantic about it its fact the back heel goal and defeat did not put us down. Was not even the last match, last match was I think Villa and we lost that too.Well if you want to be pedantic then technically it didnt relegate us as it wouldnt have mattered what the result was. It was however the last game of the season. So carry on being pedantic
It will be a failure because the reason he was bought was to take them to another level. Instead they regressed loUmm who said this? Sounds like something messi fangirls made up again has barca been winning it every year?
He scores no doubt but he is the kind of player who needs ALOT of service and players around him to sacrifice their game. The moment that doesn't happen he is a liability. Just before he arrived, Juventus had reached the quarters of the UCL losing very narrowly to Madrid and had reached the final in the previous season. He did not improve them at all. The goal and assists stats don't tell the whole story.The man scored 101 goals in 134 games and 22 assists.
He more then did his part.
He is responsible for 90% of their goals in the knockout rounds while he’s been their.
They got Ronaldo because he is the CL man. Nobody wins it or performs in it like him but then failed to make the team competitive.
Juventus failed him not the other way around. Weston, Ramsey, bernadeschi, bentsncur. Players that would not start in any top team in the world.
He performed very well and scored buckets of goals in a side that didn’t create many chances a game to begin with.
I get why people are worried. In Manchester City he will score goals for fun and he will be the X factor for them come CL time.