Sorry I find this post absurd, then I saw your team allegiances.
Ronaldo is as fit if not fitter than many of our younger players. He could do a great job in the PL for 2 years.
We won’t though because wages are a hindrance
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Ronaldo is as fit if not fitter than many of our younger players. He could do a great job in the PL for 2 years.
We won’t though because wages are a hindrance
He should take a pay cut to 200k, play for 5 years and then player coach and then manager. What would he do with so much money anyway
They pay De Ligt and Ramsey 400k/wk, Dyabala ~300k.
Serves them right for stockpiling all the players. Let's hope that nobody buy his players and teach them a lesson.
Yeh. It just feels like there's money laundering involves. This is based on no fact at all.
Do you know we've had debate over the years who is best? Ronaldo or Messi? I've changed my mind so many times. One min I think Messi and then Ronoaldo based on who had the better season. Now ive come to the conclusion ( and many will disagree ) it's defenitly Ronaldo, and here's why.
Ok we know Messi had has one more ( 6 )Ballon d'or than Ronaldo (5) you could argue during seasons 2009/10/11/12that Messi was the best and somethng that many would agree on.
However, over the last 7 years Ronaldo has won it 4 times compared to Messi 2.
This is the difference for me that make Ronaldo the greatest player in the world, well at least at the moment till things may change Again.
Ronaldo has done it in Spain, Italy, Portugal & England. More importantly he's been a success every club where he's played for, let's not forget he played in some inferior teams when you compare them with messi. He's been successful on the biggest stage of the world in the World Cup.
Where has Messi done. it? Basically only ever played for one club in the world ( Spain ) Barcalona. He's never done it in the world club even though some of that's down to them not having a great side.
It's well advertised the hardest league in the world to win in is the Premier League. He's never played against our boys. Being at Barcalona week in week out he's playing against inferior opposition and surrounded totally buy world class players in Barcalona. No wonder he's scoring all the time with players like that round him. Ronaldo has never had that luxury and always done it the hard way..
No.... For me Ronaldo over the last ten years deserves to be named the greatest player in the world. It's now official
What's your opinion ? Please not word answers and atleast give some minor details please.
Ok we know Messi had has one more ( 6 )Ballon d'or than Ronaldo (5) you could argue during seasons 2009/10/11/12that Messi was the best and somethng that many would agree on.
However, over the last 7 years Ronaldo has won it 4 times compared to Messi 2.
This is the difference for me that make Ronaldo the greatest player in the world, well at least at the moment till things may change Again.
Ronaldo has done it in Spain, Italy, Portugal & England. More importantly he's been a success every club where he's played for, let's not forget he played in some inferior teams when you compare them with messi. He's been successful on the biggest stage of the world in the World Cup.
Where has Messi done. it? Basically only ever played for one club in the world ( Spain ) Barcalona. He's never done it in the world club even though some of that's down to them not having a great side.
It's well advertised the hardest league in the world to win in is the Premier League. He's never played against our boys. Being at Barcalona week in week out he's playing against inferior opposition and surrounded totally buy world class players in Barcalona. No wonder he's scoring all the time with players like that round him. Ronaldo has never had that luxury and always done it the hard way..
No.... For me Ronaldo over the last ten years deserves to be named the greatest player in the world. It's now official
What's your opinion ? Please not word answers and atleast give some minor details please.
We should go for him. Miss these days!
We took on Zlatan at his age, I'd happily take Ronny on a two year contract.
Imagine how our young players could benefit from his drive and experience.
Imagine how our young players could benefit from his drive and experience.
I've read some rubbish in this thread but this takes the cake. Why should he? He's being paid his worth and Juve negotiated the contract. He's not a charity.
So he went from Portugal to ManUtd, Real, and finally Juve. It's hardly a surprise when you're successful while playing for 3 of the most revered clubs in the world. It's not like he pulled that off with Newcastle, Parma and Celta, you know?
There're cases made to be for both players, but that "Ronnie did it everywhere" point is nonsense.
Those days are long gone. He is no longer this player.
Poor Cristiano had to play with players like Scholes, Giggs, Rooney, Tevez, Rio, Vida, Evra... later Modric, X.Alonso, Ramos, Marcelo, Benzema, Di Maria, Kroos etc. It really is hard way for Cristiano having to cope with such average players while Messi had all the best players in the world with him.
As for Messi playing against english clubs: 34 matches-26 goals with 2 hattricks. Cristiano 79 matches- 28 goals with none hattrick. So in twice as many matches against United, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham Cristiano managed to score only 2 goals more, but maybe that's because of these poor teams he's played with, hard way and all that.
If the Spanish league is so easy to win, why has Ronaldo only won it twice? Ronaldo's Real had walked the English league multiple times, same as Barcelona in the last 10 years. There's a reason why La Liga was and still is the leader of the UEFA five year rating by a large distance while the EPL occasionally only came third.
That's why it's stupid to rate players on team trophies. This is the modern day equivalent of "can he do it on a cold, rainy night at Stoke?"
If Ronaldo had played his entire career for Athletic Bilbao, he'd still be the same player but wouldn't have won as many trophies. That doesn't make him worse as an individual.
That video made me nostalgic and sad, time to look up compilations of Greenwood and dream of the future
It's a Muppet dream if you didn't understand
But your shearers, le Tissier, Di Canio, mahrez, Payet have lit up lesser clubs so I don’t get the Ronnie couldn’t do it with said clubs either...or do you mean they need to single handedly win trophies with these smaller clubs?
I agree until the last point. Better coaching at megaclubs like us and Madrid have helped him to flourish more than he would have if he played his whole career at Athletic Club. No past or present Bilbao manager bar Bielsa can even compare to some of Ronaldo’s managers like Ancelotti, Mourinho and especially SAF. This is ignoring assistant managers like Queiroz and Faria too.
Maybe out of recent bias, but I think most forward players would have suffered playing under Mourinho though.
Do you include Premier league games in those 79 matches though? I assume you do realize Ronaldo had around 200 games playing as midfield winger in 442 during earlier stage of his career at Man Utd in Premier league league?
From 2015 onwards, yes (the current Son is electrifying though). Martial, Hazard, Costa, Pogba, Rashford, Alli and Eriksen all haven’t had the best time of it since.
However, Madrid and Ronaldo had prime Mourinho. Despite Pep’s Barca team being universally regarded as the best of all time, Mourinho wiped the floor with them in 2011-12 and came away with a record points and goals total (something insane like 123).
At one point, Mourinho’s counter-attacking football was sensational. If he was just a defensive manager throughout his whole career, he’d never have won what he’s won.
I've found only his record against aforemenitoned clubs, those Messi also played against.
Exclude then his earlier career, let's say first 3 years in which he was more of traditional winger after which he become focal point of United attack. That's 30 games less (2 fixtures a season against City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham in 3 seasons makes 30 games which we'll overlook with 3 goals less he scored in that period- 1 against Tottenham and 2 against Arsenal) in which he scored 25 goals. So 49 matches - 25 goals, good return but Messi has a better one.
This is a Ronaldo vs Messi thread?
For what it’s worth, Ronaldo is definitely the better athlete and almost a complete footballer. Messi is more skillful, don’t think Ronaldo would have dropped boateng the way Messi did for example.
For what it’s worth, Ronaldo is definitely the better athlete and almost a complete footballer. Messi is more skillful, don’t think Ronaldo would have dropped boateng the way Messi did for example.
Man when someone calls Ronaldo the perfect footballer, it makes me cringe so bad. He scores and is lethal, gets shit done and that's it. Messi scores and creates at different level to anyone in the world. I don't know how anyone can look past Messi, when they use the term complete player. It doesn't get better than Leo. Portuguese people and delusional supporters may argue, but it's been said basically by every respectable footballer in the world that Messi is the superior player.
This is not a Ronaldo vs Messi thread. Let's just accept the fact that they have different things to offer. Messi is better in some ways whereas Ronaldo does some things even Messi would only dream of doing. Let's leave it at that. Both are complete players in their own right.
Anything involving either Messi or Ronaldo seems to forever turn into Messi vs Ronaldo or an attempt either of the best players of this generation.
You'd think these are 8 year old conversations yet the sad thing is they're not.
You'd think these are 8 year old conversations yet the sad thing is they're not.
What about 2013? - The voting was meant to be done by 15 November. FIFA decides to extend this to 29th November. And crucially, allow whoever voted before to change their votes if they wanted to. Portugal play Sweden in the second of the world cup qualifier - Ronaldos socres a hattrick to send Portugal to the world cup.
haha I was feeling nostalgic too...those were the days!That video made me nostalgic and sad, time to look up compilations of Greenwood and dream of the future
Do we dare to dream?!
No, why would we want Ronaldo back here on mega wages?
He's merely just asking a fellow countryman if he's settled well in Manchester.
I read this interview a few hours back. Applying a possible transfer angle to this is,shall we say,desperate.
With all the talk of Messi flooding the news, news of Ronaldo moving away from Juventus is non existent.
What's happening on this one? Especially since Juventus seems very keen on Suarez.
What's happening on this one? Especially since Juventus seems very keen on Suarez.
This might sound stupid. Maybe Ronaldo is just keeping tabs on Messi's next move? Messi going to PL is a step up compared to Ronaldo's, so this might have triggered him? Maybe he's ready to take a pay cut and push a move to UTD, cuz he knows just winning the PL would put his name on a different level
LAST MOMENT: our sources in Manchester and Porto confirm that Manchester United tempted Cristiano Ronaldo with a return to the club for next season. The Portuguese analyzes it. Juventus would negotiate it if he asks for it.
LAST MOMENT: our sources in Manchester and Porto confirm that Manchester United tempted Cristiano Ronaldo with a return to the club for next season. The Portuguese analyzes it. Juventus would negotiate it if he asks for it.
If he is willing to take a pay cut and we offer him a player/coach role... His disciple,hunger and work rate will be a shining example for our young squad.
Messi and Ronaldo in the Premier League at the same time and the same city would be glorious.
Even Ronaldo taking a pay cut would still have him earn too much.
LAST MOMENT: our sources in Manchester and Porto confirm that Manchester United tempted Cristiano Ronaldo with a return to the club for next season. The Portuguese analyzes it. Juventus would negotiate it if he asks for it.
Swap him with Pogba
What is his actual level these days?
Say he comes to United, are we still talking about an undisputed first pick?
How would United need to adapt to fit him in?
Say he comes to United, are we still talking about an undisputed first pick?
How would United need to adapt to fit him in?
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