Decent wax figure to be fair. Looks exactly like him
Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement
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Decent wax figure to be fair. Looks exactly like him
Wasn't great giving that interview the other night.
Have to ask why the club thought it was a good idea to bring in a 36 year old who's career was only going one way? This is on the club, they are even more to blame than Ronaldo in my opinion.
No it wasn't, I know that though, so do most on here
More to blame then the person being unprofessional? Are 36 years old players expected to not act professionally?
We didn’t want one of the best players in history? A player who scores goals like no one else. We needed that. We all wanted him to come home. Hindsight is 20/20. None of us saw this coming. He’s never bitched and moaned like this before. Usually just shuts up and gets on with it. Now he’s leaving in a worse state by his own making. Feck him.
You do know I am talking about the waxwork?
Yes. Because he was acting up at Juve for the last year, it was no secret he is an asshole. The club made this very avoidable problem all for marketing reasons over football ones.
That's not true, I didn't want him and many didn't. But it has no bearing on whether the club is responsible for Ronaldo acting unprofessionally.
This is exactly the same for Benzema as well. Look how good him and Rooney were in the few seasons after Ronaldo left.
He was brought in as a marketing machine with zero regard for the football. He can't then complain the Glazers don't care about football. If they did he wouldn't be there.
It was his addition to the team that was the straw that broke the camel's back. The football side of the club imploded and the Glazers had no choice but to start a proper football project, bringing in ETH. So Ronaldo is bemoaning a change in culture that he triggered by being bad at football. But it would have happened anyway given the huge number of other problems.
tl/dr it is on the Glazers and Ronaldo.
Loads of us saw it coming and said so. Obviously we hoped we were wrong. Certainly once Ole got sacked and it became clear we were modernising our football, it was crystal clear that Ronaldo wouldn't fit in. Nor would AWB, Maguire, Pogba or de Gea for that matter. And so it has proven.
Until the bolded literally all of this is wrong.
I didn't want him either. You'd have needed a crystal ball to have seen how it turned out, though. He was meant to turn the club where he made his name into winners. But he turned out to be more deranged than anyone could've imagined.
So you knew that he was unprofessional? I'll be honest with you, I didn't and I also didn't want him back.
The thing is, Ronaldo did save our proverbial bacon last season. Ole set the house on fire and timbers were falling, yet Ronaldo made barely (very barely) decent a season that would likely have seen us in a relegation fight.
But going into the summer, well, Ronaldo wanted out and now he’s done what he’s done. The club is criticized for not letting Ronaldo go, but apart from a Saudi club no other club that we know of wanted him. And quite a few clubs we do know of said no. So while it made sense to bring back Ronaldo last season doing so fukked us this season. Fortunately, we have a manager who has handled Ronaldo brilliantly and we’re still very much in the hunt to return to the CL, despite Ronaldo’s disgraceful treatment of the club he professes to love.
But going into the summer, well, Ronaldo wanted out and now he’s done what he’s done. The club is criticized for not letting Ronaldo go, but apart from a Saudi club no other club that we know of wanted him. And quite a few clubs we do know of said no. So while it made sense to bring back Ronaldo last season doing so fukked us this season. Fortunately, we have a manager who has handled Ronaldo brilliantly and we’re still very much in the hunt to return to the CL, despite Ronaldo’s disgraceful treatment of the club he professes to love.
Exactly. My general dislike for Ronaldo isn't hidden but I have never accused or suspected him to be unprofessional, some are acting like proper mystic megs.
this is exactly why he needs to leave the club before the restart.
EVERY question non stop will be about him until something is sorted. He’s ruining portugals preparation now too with all this drama following him
We were shit last season partially due to him and the fact that our attack was focused on him and nothing else. With him we scored less goals then the previous season, he saved nothing the same way Lukaku saved nothing with his goals.
Woodward and SAF.
"No one is bigger than the club"... People don't want to admit it but Ronaldo is the only exception to Fergie's rule. This is not the first time Ronaldo put club in the bad spotlight, SAF threw Beckham out of the window for less.
A lot of people predicted these issues. Even many of those who persuaded themselves that it was a good idea once it happened were aware of his very evident flaws and the potential for problems to arise, both in a footballing and non-footballing sense.
But there were plenty of reasons to think he was, from how he left first time, to his massive fallout with Mourinho at Madrid, to his all eyes on me non existent fifth penalty for Portugal that time, to his ridiculous all eyes on me celebration in the Champions League final after the penalty against Atletico, to how he acted in his leaving Juventus even. That’s just the football side of things.
It couldn’t be any surprise that this person wasn’t going to take the fact that he was no longer the big star well, so the signing was never going to end well.
We've gone full Brendan. And with no PL matches this thread will only get worse.So we went full philosophy now? Right and wrong are illusory concepts.
Hiw can nobody see ronaldo is holding us back as club and not the club holding him back
I was not a fan of ole but Christ thing went completely sour once ronaldo turned and for the first time ole's position as manager was being undermined.
then ronaldo told the board he did not want conte at the club and say what you want but conte had a great track record of winning titles and was able to get spurs ucl football.
We then hired ralf who clearly tried to implement a high pressing style as seen in the first match and also change the club behind the scenes but then we heard many reports of players undermining him.and his staff and we have now found out fromthe interview that ronaldo was the main culprit.
Then there is the much sought after ten hag who had a host of top European clubs eyeing him up and comes to united and is clearly getting the side and club on the right track of catching up with the modern game but has had to deal with the ronaldo circus trying to undermine him and get him out of the club.
I was not a fan of ole but Christ thing went completely sour once ronaldo turned and for the first time ole's position as manager was being undermined.
then ronaldo told the board he did not want conte at the club and say what you want but conte had a great track record of winning titles and was able to get spurs ucl football.
We then hired ralf who clearly tried to implement a high pressing style as seen in the first match and also change the club behind the scenes but then we heard many reports of players undermining him.and his staff and we have now found out fromthe interview that ronaldo was the main culprit.
Then there is the much sought after ten hag who had a host of top European clubs eyeing him up and comes to united and is clearly getting the side and club on the right track of catching up with the modern game but has had to deal with the ronaldo circus trying to undermine him and get him out of the club.
70% win rate without him playing. Feck me we should be winning the league if we had a proper CF.
In terms of it escalating to him potentially getting sacked, sure.
But the fact that he might take serious issue, cause problems, be a petulant sulk, bring negative media attention/pressure and need to be sold if a manager who wanted a less limited centre-forward inevitably played him less was very predictable, as seen in the fact that many posters here did predict it as soon as we were linked to the likes of Rangnick and ETH.
Being petulant is different to being unprofessional. Many players and people may have reactions that are not ideal but are still within their rights which is what you described. Publically attacking your manager in an interview, refusing to enter a game and leaving the stadium are unprofessional actions that were unprecedented and are also extremely rare in Football and sport in general.
Edit: Now I have no issue with people using hindsight, I have been trying to do the same but it's a reach to claim that it was obvious and should have been predicted.
They’re not different though, are they? At most the petulance is just a slightly lower rung on the ladder. To the extent where there can be absolutely no surprise when it escalates.
I honestly did wonder but wasn't sure!
ApologiesNo he didn't. He was the partial solution to the problems he caused. We were better before he arrive.
I'm bemused that people still don't get this. For every goal he scored he cost us between 1 and 2 others. If we had a decent coach and an amazing squad it could have just about been papered over. But we did not.
Ronaldo has turned into a disaster and has clearly been on the decline for a few years.
But that doesn’t automatically make Rooney a better or more professional player than he actually was. Typical Caf overreaction.
But that doesn’t automatically make Rooney a better or more professional player than he actually was. Typical Caf overreaction.
I honestly did wonder but wasn't sure!
Of course they are different. I'm sorry but it's revisionism to claim that Ronaldo was always perceived as unprofessional.
They’re not different at all. It’s very silly to say they are. It’s all just shades of grey.
Diving is also unprofessional, he was known as a diver for years too.
Hope we don’t sell him and just keep him there with no playtime. Like Arteta did with Aubameyang.
The person I feel for is Fernando Santos. Imagine Ronnie doesn't play well, he's fecked. He can't possibly substitute or bench him.
I didn't want him. couldn't careless if he had joined City. Always knew he was a self-centered Diva and Ole wouldn't be able to control him.
If you had watched his last season at Juventus, it was similar to our previous season too, he scored more goals but team played very predictable and he was a net loss overall. They also lost title for the first time since 2011 and were further away from the UCL, the only reason that they bought him for. The sign was there.
But "whatabout his goals"... Bruno was banging that numbers before Ronaldo joined. Look how many players performed after? None
Hindsight is 10/10 but even ETH said the other day that he was annoyed that United stopped following the plan and kept looking for Ronaldo when team' chasing the game. It was Ashton Villa game I think.
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Indeed. So much for the “cultural reset”. Young hard-working players my arse.
In mitigation, one has to bear in mind that all the people behind the decision to bring him in are almost certainly no longer around. It’s only fair to give our full backing to the poor sods who have been left the unenviable job of clearing up the sorry mess.
We had two threads before and after he was signed predicting what happened last season.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/unpopular-opinion-ronaldo-will-be-a-huge-miss.465183/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/i-am-hoping-we-do-not-sign-ronaldo.465022/
Before this season started, many of us wanted him to leave and questioned his professionalism and conduct. Of course, he went overboard with the interview but it wasn't shocking after seeing him refusing to come as a sub against Spurs.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/unpopular-opinion-ronaldo-will-be-a-huge-miss.465183/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/i-am-hoping-we-do-not-sign-ronaldo.465022/
Before this season started, many of us wanted him to leave and questioned his professionalism and conduct. Of course, he went overboard with the interview but it wasn't shocking after seeing him refusing to come as a sub against Spurs.
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