Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)

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amolbhatia100 said:
What if a player donates a decent bit given he has a lot but hurts close people around him by being a complete cnut?
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It starts to come to a point where you will need to hold everyone to extreme scrutiny before labelling them as good people. Overlooking the good just to find any potential bad that may be non-existent. Even people who you know very well in real life and think are great could have deep dark secrets.

Like do we label Drogba a good person or do we focus on how he might have hurt many people and we just haven't heard about it
 
Attila said:
It starts to come to a point where you will need to hold everyone to extreme scrutiny before labelling them as good people. Overlooking the good just to find any potential bad that may be non-existent. Even people who you know very well in real life and think are great could have deep dark secrets.

Like do we label Drogba a good person or do we focus on how he might have hurt many people and we just haven't heard about it
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I'm sorry but there's a difference between calling someone a nice chap and a "great human being".

I'm overlooking the supposed good because I don't even know the guy.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Well there's cynical and then there's gullible/presumptive.

Anyway like I said, this isn't the thread.
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Yep...this thread is more for people who want to assess what his shaking head symbolised and if they are any more angles for it. Do we have any updates on Arbeloa's recovery? :p
 
Attila said:
Yep...this thread is more for people who want to assess what his shaking head symbolised and if they are any more angles for it. Do we have any updates on Arbeloa's recovery? :p
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Ronaldo's probably already gotten his transfer arranged :D
 
Wasn't Jimmy Saville well known for his charity work?

Of course I'm not insinuating anything, but it's quite obvious that charity work doesn't always tell you how 'great a human being' that person is.
 
Charity work doesn't prove someone is a great human being, but then being "a great human being" can be very subjective as well. The great historical figures, how do we know if they never cheated on their wife for example? And even if they did, does that automatically mean they are not a great human being?

Then for all of Ronaldo's charity work, he has been keeping his son away since birth from his mother, does that make him "great"? Regarding rich ppl well everything is in the news. The one has a child just for himself, the other cheats on his wife, the third doesn't pay millions in taxes and and and ... so can they still be great human beings? Maybe and why not if they have done other "great" things? ... Noone actually knows and even if you know the person closely I doubt you can always judge him personally ... I mean Scholes or Neville most probably didn't know about Giggs's affair despite seeing him almost on a daily basis and knowing him since the age of 12/13/14.

Regarding rich ppl and charity though, it shouldn't be dismissed just because they are rich. It still helps ppl and yes 50 k is 10-15% of Ronaldo's weekly salary. But then I guess most of us here aren't that poor that we can hardly afford anything and there are several ppl much poorer than us. So how many of us donate 10-15 % of our weekly salary to those who need it?

I can only speak of myself and I do donate at times, but it has always been less than 10 % of my salary.

In the end whatever the amount a rich person donates, I'd still they donate rather than not, as it definitely makes some person happy and to the rich person it wouldn't make a difference even if he didn't donate.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I'm sorry but there's a difference between calling someone a nice chap and a "great human being".

I'm overlooking the supposed good because I don't even know the guy.
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By you own definition, we could never judge any person anymore than, because it would be impossible for us to uncover all the dark secrets of a person (even if they are non-existence) no matter how close we are with that person. Which could be a fair point, but rather meaningless to discuss here, as nobody will ever know, except, well, and person himself and God knows.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Have you been stalking him? Kidding

Yes of course, some celebrities come across as well behaved and nicer chaps than others. But it's all very superficial because, as I stress, we dont actually know these people. It's like me calling noodles from redcafe a "great human being". He's a funny chap who is pleasant, but it's hardly like I meet him every week for drinks and know him properly.
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I don't know SmashedHombre personally but I heard and saw enough of him to know he's one of the best guys in here.
 
RedRonaldo said:
By you own definition, we could never judge any person anymore than, because it would be impossible for us to uncover all the dark secrets of a person (even if they are non-existence) no matter how close we are with that person. Which could be a fair point, but rather meaningless to discuss here, as nobody will ever know, except, well, and person himself and God knows.
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Wrong. We can judge people we know. At least more accurately than those we don't.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Wrong. We can judge people we know. At least more accurately than those we don't.
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I doubt so. For example you mum who knows you well enough might always think you are a good boy without knowing how many porns you hiding from her... just for sake of an argument lol.
 
RedRonaldo said:
I doubt so. For example you mum who knows you well enough might always think you are a good boy without knowing how many porns you hiding from her... just for sake of an argument lol.
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This is ridiculous. You guys think you know Ronaldo as well as your family members know each other. That's the celebrity effect these days I guess.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
This is ridiculous. You guys think you know Ronaldo as well as your family members know each other. That's the celebrity effect these days I guess.
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Point is you argue that people who never know the person can't judge him, I go one step further to argue that even you think you do know the person you may not be possible judge him accurately either.

To be fair guy does a charity you just give him credit for that.. (or you can choose not to, but the actual receiver of charity will anyway) whether he does it sincerely or its a PR thing, no one will ever knows and its pointless to discuss here. People just choose to believe what they want anyway (even they know a person very well)
 
RedRonaldo said:
Point is you argue that people who never know the person can't judge him, I go one step further to argue that even you think you do know the person you may not be possible judge him accurately either.

To be fair guy does a charity you just give him credit for that.. (or you can choose not to, but the actual receiver of charity will anyway) whether he does it sincerely or its a PR thing, no one will ever knows and its pointless to discuss here. People just choose to believe what they want anyway (even they know a person very well)
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But far more accurately given you really know the actual person.

Anyways let's move on from this. It's gotten boring.
 
Giving countless money to charity and paying for children's much needed surgery for parents that can't afford it don't define a person's character though.

Being a bit annoyed by having seen a goal taken away right in front of you for the second time in one game are the things that make a man.
 
Vato said:
Giving countless money to charity and paying for children's much needed surgery for parents that can't afford it don't define a person's character though.

Being a bit annoyed by having seen a goal taken away right in front of you for the second time in one game are the things that make a man.
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well, tbf we watch games and we like football

so what he does in a football pitch, for fooball fans, is more important

but that's only my opinion, of course
 
Good game from him. Seems to link up well with Chicharito.

Guys, have you seen this? http://www.cr17.com/

A forum dedicated to Ronaldo. Almost as big as the Caf. :eek:
 
Ronaldo thread quiet and Messi fanbois not twisting their knickers. Can only mean one thing :D
 
Vato said:
Giving countless money to charity and paying for children's much needed surgery for parents that can't afford it don't define a person's character though.

Being a bit annoyed by having seen a goal taken away right in front of you for the second time in one game are the things that make a man.
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Is this actually a joke?
 
Sevilla or maybe La Liga's defenders in general are so shite at dealing with crosses.
 
42 goals and 15 assists in 32 league games this season. In other words, he's contributed nearly 2 goals per game. And he had a prolonged slump in form after his break with Irina...
 
Bob Loblaw said:
Understandable that you've blocked out the 2009 CL final I suppose.
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Ronaldo's goal came in a bigger game though, Messi only done it in a UCL final against the defending champions with a world class defence. Ronaldo did it against Sevilla in the league which is far more impressive.
 
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