Cristiano Ronaldo - Much Ado About Al Nassr

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This is like updating a thread every time Paul Scholes scores in a 5-a-side.

Thinking about the same.
Brilliant goalscorer and one of the best but scoring there doesn’t tell anything.

 

[adexkola]

There's a reason why Maradona, Cruyff, Zidane, Platini, Rivaldo, Zico, Messi, Pele, Modric are all comparable to each other and seen as among the greatest ever that's because in football playmaking, creativity, passing, dribbling are seen as among the most attractive qualities in addition to goal scoring. Shot power, weaker foot, heading accuracy are all minor sub-categories, what does GOATesque heading mean))? Who cares?

Imagine equating playmaking with heading)) not comparable to major categories I listed. You can find tens of players equal to Zidane's playmaking then with so-called "GOATesque heading" if we refer to your logic)) It is like listing through balls, long balls as seperate major categories for Pele, Maradona etc.. Ronaldo is not comparable to any other in those major categories..

Look, there's no objective metric you can use to place Zidane above Ronaldo in a GOAT ranking, and that applies regardless of how "attractive" Zidane's game was.

That your post wasn't challenged is exhibit A of how ridiculous the conversation around Ronaldo in this thread has gotten. Zidane??

 

[SirAF]

You're right, that flick Scholes did in that 5-a-side was genuinely impressive.

Don't be an ass. You know, as well as I do, that any goals scored in Saudi or elsewhere are officially recognized by FIFA - like it or not

 

[Herman Toothrot]

Don't be an ass. You know, as well as I do, that any goals scored in Saudi or elsewhere are officially recognized by FIFA - like it or not

Ooooh lovely sexy statistics. Yummy Internet fodder for childish arguments.

 

[SirAF]

Ooooh lovely sexy statistics. Yummy Internet fodder for childish arguments.

Speaking of childish...

 

[heraklion]

1.Yes, But if you make that argument you should make the argument in favour of Cristiano playing for Portugal, The only ATG player that had to face teams above his NT ELO ratings on consistent basis, Based on difficulty level an argument could be made that for Cristiano to perform against Sweden/Czech Republic etc was as hard as it was for Maradona to perform against Germany, Italy or Brazil. Also, Madrid wasn't a european powerhouse circa 2008-2009, It was a dark era in the club, Full of managers rotation, Inefficient transfers and overall failure on the european stage.

This is BS. We have Stoichkov, Hagi, James Rodriguez, Modric, Forlan showing masterclass WC performances with their above average teams in the WC. Ronaldo performed terribly in the 5 WCs. That Portugal team you are downgrading won against France in Paris "without Ronaldo" in 2016 EC final. Imagine calling teams with Figo, Rui Costa, Deco, Carvalho, Pepe, Pauleta average.. Portugal team in the most recent Euros and WC was easily a top 4-5 team of the tournament.

2.Seria A golden era only started during the very late 80s, Period in which Maradona declined athletically. According to ELO ranking it was the 3rd best league in the world when prime Maradona was active, In Cristiano case he played in the best league in the world *In every single season during his prime*, Add that to the difficulty considerations too.

Again pure BS. Juventus (twice) and Rome all played CL finals between 1980-1985. Which league was better than Serie A during that time?
Imagine talking about difficulty level and conveniently ignoring the fact that Ronaldo played for the "super teams" of the era with or without him under the greatest managers of the last 30 years at United under SAF, at Real under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Zidane, even Alegri at Juventus. I wonder what would happen to his legacy if he played for Tottenham under average managers.. I also wonder how Maradona would benefit from working with SAF type of managers..

3.Questionable at best, Cristiano raised the floor significantly, Increased the goal output of Madrid by over 50%, Increased LaLiga points tally by almost 20-30% on average and on the contribution in the Champions League i shouldn't even elaborate, Cristiano surpassed Maradona's international club career by the time he was 24.

Maradona led Napoli to Serie A title twice.. Ronaldo can only dream of doing that, 2 league titles in 9 years with super team Real under some of the greatest managers of all time is not something to be proud of, I'm afraid..

On prime/peak, What do you consider Maradona prime and peak and how could they stand against 2010-2014 Cristiano? In terms of performance, stats, impact, influence and overall capabilities as a player? To me no stretch of 5 seasons is equal to what Cristiano produced during the early 2010s

Put Maradona under SAF at United or Real with superb players at all positions and then see what happens. You are conveniently ignoring the super-teams reality and how much that affects output. Ronaldo shows everything we need to know about his capabilities when he plays for Portugal at WC and against great NTs. I wonder what happens to him in the WC.. Oh ok, you need to put prime Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Marcelo, Ramos, Casemiro so that he can perform.. or put Giggs, Scholes, Tevez, Rooney, Keane, Rio, Vidic etc. so that he can perform under SAF..

Maradona's 86 WC performance is above and beyond anything Ronaldo has done in his career.

Muller and MVB were nowhere near peak Cristiano level, This is outrageous take.
Beckenbauer is invalid comparison.
Platini wasn't as capable player as Cristiano. Zico was a very capable player but he played his best years in south america, The level of competition was way way lower (He also was notorious statpadder against the worst teams in Brazil).
Brazilian Ronaldo was not on peak Cristiano level, I elaborated on that months ago and have no interest in continuing that discussion again. But that one isn't that absurd of a take so fair enough.

Platini is much more capable player than Ronaldo. Ronaldo is no match to him in terms of playmaking or dribbling or passing or creativity. His NT performances are epic unlike Ronaldo who tends to disappear with the NT. That stat padding thing is what Ronaldo is known for.

As for Muller, he is a greater goal scorer than Ronaldo, no question. Nobody is as clutch as Muller when it comes to goal scoring, the guy just never disappoints.

 

[heraklion]

Look, there's no objective metric you can use to place Zidane above Ronaldo in a GOAT ranking, and that applies regardless of how "attractive" Zidane's game was.

That your post wasn't challenged is exhibit A of how ridiculous the conversation around Ronaldo in this thread has gotten. Zidane??

What are you talking about?? I am saying these qualities are the most valuable along with goalscoring. Ronaldo lacks these key qualities at the highest level other than goal scoring. The only reason he is listed among the greatest is his goal scoring ability. He is no match to all time greats without his goal numbers.

Do you truly believe Ronaldo will be a part of this list without his goal scoring? How will you rank between Zidane and Ronaldo if we assume both had similar output in terms of goals?

 

[elPibeDeOro]

Especially when they are accompanied by players such as 2022 Ballon D'or 2nd Mane, Serie A best midfielder Brozovic, Laporte etc,

This. And the difference in quality between the 4 teams that Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund took ownership over and the rest of the league, is like comparing PL teams to League Two teams. The team Al-Nassr played yesterday spent only £2.75m on transfers this whole window.
But I guess CRon fans will cream themselves over anything, the same as Messi fans regarding his exploits in MLS (although he is scoring worldies on the regular over there on an absolute crap team).

 

[Care_de_Bobo]

Look, there's no objective metric you can use to place Zidane above Ronaldo in a GOAT ranking, and that applies regardless of how "attractive" Zidane's game was.

That your post wasn't challenged is exhibit A of how ridiculous the conversation around Ronaldo in this thread has gotten. Zidane??

Like it or not, the World Cup is the pinnacle of the sport and Zidane was far better in that arena than Ronaldo. Yes, Ronaldo has scored a ton of goals and won the CL four times, but Madrid proved after he left that the team was good enough to win the CL with or without him.

Of course Ronaldo is a great player, but his level is honestly much closer to someone like Zidane or Romario rather than a Messi or Pele who not only have the numbers, but the biggest prize in the game and were simply better to watch. The obsession with stats these days is strange, I don't remember anyone ever comparing a goalscorer like Van Nistelrooy to a player like Ronaldinho back in the day because people actually used their eyes, not numbers, to judge players.

 

[CrockedRain]

You wrote all of that and refused to answer what Ronaldo does on the field better than Maradona besides running faster and jumping higher.

Goalscoring
Shooting power
Shooting technique
Off Ball
Weak foot
Overall athleticism
Orchestrating counters

What Maradona is better at expect dribbling and subsets of playmaking (Through-balls, Controlling the tempo, Vision and long balls)?

This is BS. We have Stoichkov, Hagi, James Rodriguez, Modric, Forlan showing masterclass WC performances with their above average teams in the WC. Ronaldo performed terribly in the 5 WCs. That Portugal team you are downgrading won against France in Paris "without Ronaldo" in 2016 EC final. Imagine calling teams with Figo, Rui Costa, Deco, Carvalho, Pepe, Pauleta average.. Portugal team in the most recent Euros and WC was easily a top 4-5 team of the tournament.



Again pure BS. Juventus (twice) and Rome all played CL finals between 1980-1985. Which league was better than Serie A during that time?
Imagine talking about difficulty level and conveniently ignoring the fact that Ronaldo played for the "super teams" of the era with or without him under the greatest managers of the last 30 years at United under SAF, at Real under Mourinho, Ancelotti, Zidane, even Alegri at Juventus. I wonder what would happen to his legacy if he played for Tottenham under average managers.. I also wonder how Maradona would benefit from working with SAF type of managers..


Maradona led Napoli to Serie A title twice.. Ronaldo can only dream of doing that, 2 league titles in 9 years with super team Real under some of the greatest managers of all time is not something to be proud of, I'm afraid..


Put Maradona under SAF at United or Real with superb players at all positions and then see what happens. You are conveniently ignoring the super-teams reality and how much that affects output. Ronaldo shows everything we need to know about his capabilities when he plays for Portugal at WC and against great NTs. I wonder what happens to him in the WC.. Oh ok, you need to put prime Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Marcelo, Ramos, Casemiro so that he can perform.. or put Giggs, Scholes, Tevez, Rooney, Keane, Rio, Vidic etc. so that he can perform under SAF..

Maradona's 86 WC performance is above and beyond anything Ronaldo has done in his career.


Platini is much more capable player than Ronaldo. Ronaldo is no match to him in terms of playmaking or dribbling or passing or creativity. His NT performances are epic unlike Ronaldo who tends to disappear with the NT. That stat padding thing is what Ronaldo is known for.

As for Muller, he is a greater goal scorer than Ronaldo, no question. Nobody is as clutch as Muller when it comes to goal scoring, the guy just never disappoints.

Sorry but the are too many absurd takes here for me to take it seriously, Your approach also makes me think we couldn't have a proper discussion going forward so i'll just end it here. Have a good day.

 

[CrockedRain]

Like it or not, the World Cup is the pinnacle of the sport and Zidane was far better in that arena than Ronaldo. Yes, Ronaldo has scored a ton of goals and won the CL four times, but Madrid proved after he left that the team was good enough to win the CL with or without him.

Of course Ronaldo is a great player, but his level is honestly much closer to someone like Zidane or Romario rather than a Messi or Pele who not only have the numbers, but the biggest prize in the game and were simply better to watch. The obsession with stats these days is strange, I don't remember anyone ever comparing a goalscorer like Van Nistelrooy to a player like Ronaldinho back in the day because people actually used their eyes, not numbers, to judge players.

That's your extremely subjective opinion. Ronaldo passes the eye test well enough for him to be the most admired player on the planet, The most influential attacker in the last 40 years and the one that most modern wingers modelled their game after. "Ronaldo not passing the eye test" was always the most insane notion to me, Fine, I can get exceptions to the rule, But to claim so confidently that it's some kind of consensus is just plain wrong and borderline toxic take. In reality your take is obscure one that even if we give an aesthetic judgement the full decisive role it would be taken as a weak point because it'll be part of the small and loud dissensus.

 

[bakalhau]

That's your extremely subjective opinion. Ronaldo passes the eye test well enough for him to be the most admired player on the planet, The most influential attacker in the last 40 years and the one that most modern wingers modelled their game after. "Ronaldo not passing the eye test" was always the most insane notion to me, Fine, I can get exceptions to the rule, But to claim so confidently that it's some kind of consensus is just plain wrong and borderline toxic take. In reality your take is obscure one that even if we give an aesthetic judgement the full decisive role it would be taken as a weak point because it'll be part of the small and loud dissensus.

Yeah, Cristiano always passed the eye test for me, much more so than just looking at stats, even after his 30s. Even his goals with Manchester United in the last dance are just wild - the insane split stepping, the technique, the incredible ways he ditched defenders. His "tap in" against Arsenal in 2022 a particular highlight for me, in example. He's able read the ball after it leaves Matic's foot immediately, and in 2 seconds manages to go from being in front on Aresenal's defender to get behind him and still have time to apply perfect technique to his shooting.



Edit: just look at that footwork before the cross comes in, eyes always on the ball carrier

Just like Messi, for me Cristiano has always been about the eye test, and all the little details that separate great players from those in a certain special pantheon.

 

[RashyGiggsy]

Does moving to a league in country that murders journalists, kills refugees, practices slavery, funds terrorism, and more for a lot of money enhance your reputation?

 

[Cheesy]

Like it or not, the World Cup is the pinnacle of the sport and Zidane was far better in that arena than Ronaldo. Yes, Ronaldo has scored a ton of goals and won the CL four times, but Madrid proved after he left that the team was good enough to win the CL with or without him.

Of course Ronaldo is a great player, but his level is honestly much closer to someone like Zidane or Romario rather than a Messi or Pele who not only have the numbers, but the biggest prize in the game and were simply better to watch. The obsession with stats these days is strange, I don't remember anyone ever comparing a goalscorer like Van Nistelrooy to a player like Ronaldinho back in the day because people actually used their eyes, not numbers, to judge players.

The best French teams Zidane played in were incredible though, incredibly stacked in loads of positions and more importantly well-balanced too. Some have constantly downplayed the quality of the Portuguese side over the years (Ronaldo arguably wasn't even their best player when they won the Euros), but would have been a tall ask for anyone to take them to a World Cup win barring insane luck (which I'd argue they got in the Euros). Argentina almost certainly wouldn't have won a third WC without Messi, but had enough quality that a player on his level could take them over the line. Could argue the same with Zidane's France teams, a vital component, but they'd have been able to give it a strong tilt in 98 without him, especially as hosts. 06 they'd have crashed and burned without him I reckon, they were all over the place before he produced his inspired final few performances.

 

[FrankFoot]

Why are even people comparing Maradona to Ronaldo, and talking about goals?

Maradona wasn't a striker/winger, neither was Platini or Zidane.

Despite Platini and Maradona having very good numbers they were not mere goalscorers, and were involved in playmaking way more than Ronaldo did post 2013.

Ronaldo certainly in terms of playmaking was not on Platini,Maradona or Messi level, even though I do consider him better than Platini, because he is more complete than the french legend.

 

[FrankFoot]

Ronaldo would look like a greek god playing against the defences Maradonna played against. The dope lord was great but against modern defences he'd look like Bernado Silva.

Ronaldo would cry, as he would get kicked a lot on 80s Serie A, and his opponents not even getting a yellow card for it.

Maradona wasn't doped, the cocaine ruined his career, as it could have been lasted longer, without the cocaine abusing.

All modern players are certainly legally doped at some point, since medicine has advanced so much, Maradona would be legally doped now, as he would benefit from super modern medicine, he certainly had the talent, with all the modern medicine in his favour and defenders being scared of fouling him cause they would get an early yellow card, he would thrive in modern football.

 

[RedRonaldo]

I'm guessing most 38 year old semi-retired CL-quality strikers could score that many if all the games they play have the intensity of a friendly.

I guess no examples then?

Rooney surely didn’t score near half as many when he was 34 at MLS.

Van Persie didn’t score near half or as many when he was 33-34 at Turkey either.

And they don’t even last anywhere near age 38.

And that’s 2 of our greatest striker in our recent history.

 

[RedC]

I guess no examples then?

Rooney surely didn’t score near half as many when he was 34 at MLS.

Van Persie didn’t score near half or as many when he was 33-34 at Turkey either.

And they don’t even last anywhere near age 38.

And that’s 2 of our greatest striker in our recent history.

Not sure either of those leagues are comparable to the Saudi league.

 

[B20]

That's your extremely subjective opinion. Ronaldo passes the eye test well enough for him to be the most admired player on the planet, The most influential attacker in the last 40 years and the one that most modern wingers modelled their game after. "Ronaldo not passing the eye test" was always the most insane notion to me, Fine, I can get exceptions to the rule, But to claim so confidently that it's some kind of consensus is just plain wrong and borderline toxic take. In reality your take is obscure one that even if we give an aesthetic judgement the full decisive role it would be taken as a weak point because it'll be part of the small and loud dissensus.

You are forgetting a certain someone here, aren't you?

 

[Gehrman]

Does moving to a league in country that murders journalists, kills refugees, practices slavery, funds terrorism, and more for a lot of money enhance your reputation?

Now that the Saudis managed to secure som big past it names and handful of good players he can boast about doing it in the saudi pro league at 38.

 

[RedRonaldo]

Not sure either of those leagues are comparable to the Saudi league.

Sure none of those leagues have both current Ballon D’or winner and 2nd place playing there ever.

By the way Benzema only manage 3 goals in 6 games in Saudi this season so far. Mane has 3 goals in 9 games. Mahrez has 1 goals in 3 games. Ronaldo has 9 goals in 9 games, more than those 3 players combined.

 

[morisjee]

"Salah wants to leave Liverpool!"

I would have been surprised if he didn't want to. He will be accepted there and live like an emperor. They'll take better care of him there than any diplomat that's ever been there. He becomes a billionaire and receives shares from Ittihad. What is Liverpool? Maybe he can end up buying it himself!

https://www.goal.com/en/news/mohame...al-ittihad-saudi-deadline/blte681899635b238bd

 

[Halftrack]

I guess no examples then?

Rooney surely didn’t score near half as many when he was 34 at MLS.

Van Persie didn’t score near half or as many when he was 33-34 at Turkey either.

And they don’t even last anywhere near age 38.

And that’s 2 of our greatest striker in our recent history.

MLS and the Süper Lig are miles better than the Saudi League. And Zlatan was bagging goals at that rate in the MLS at 37-38.

 

[Rojow]

Sure none of those leagues have both current Ballon D’or winner and 2nd place playing there ever.

By the way Benzema only manage 3 goals in 6 games in Saudi this season so far. Mane has 3 goals in 9 games. Mahrez has 1 goals in 3 games. Ronaldo has 9 goals in 9 games, more than those 3 players combined.

Saudi League only has been played for 3 games. The other were mere friendlys.

All is measured by goals now, what a pathetic way to see football.

 

[Idxomer]

MLS and the Süper Lig are miles better than the Saudi League. And Zlatan was bagging goals at that rate in the MLS at 37-38.

And 33 goals in 60 games in Seria A at 38-40, that's even more impressive.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

If you think playmaking is a much more important part of the definition of peak then why doesn't Ronaldo's 2008 season rank higher for you?
Also why would you also say then that Muller had also a higher peak than him?

He was not a pure penalty box player in that time, that's absurd and a myth that continues. In any case let's assume he was, in that case he was so good at that that he brute forced through some of the best defences in the world and had outputs equaling what Maradona, Messi and Pelé could do with all their all around playmaking and scoring. Basically his scoring ability was so good, the peak was so high, that he didn't need to do anything else, that was enough to break even the best defenses of the world. Isn't this a comparable peak?

Because I think Ronaldo brings far more value as a penalty box player than as a playmaker and I don't think his playmaking was even that great in the 2007-2008 season. It was much better the prior season.

His scoring ability at his best wasn't better than Pele's nor Messi's, so your assumption is rather pointless.

And Ronaldo in his later years at Madrid was pretty much a penalty box player. His dribbling had significantly declined by that point.

And I don't think Muller had a higher peak, but I find it interesting how his goal-scoring feats are arguably as good as Ronaldo's and he's never in the debate. There's a reason for that.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

I can answer for him if you want: Ronaldo had better off the ball movement, shot power, better weaker foot, better heading accuracy and offensive positioning in the area.

Maradona was almost unplayable with his dribbling, vision and passing.
Ronaldo was almost unplayable with his ability of being good at pretty much everything (even if maybe being only a GOATesque level in heading and off the ball movement). You don't know how to defend him when he could dribble you, run past you, shoot outside the area, wait and jump over you in a cross or just lose him for a second when not in possession then he already got in place to finish before you can react).

So you said better off the ball movement and then offensive positioning in the area which is pretty much the same thing. The movement Maradona did and Ronaldo did off the ball are categorically very different, so I wouldn't even use that in Ronaldo's favor.

It's like saying Ronaldo has better off the ball movement than Xavi. The movement the 2 of them will do on the field is fundamentally very different, so I find it pointless to compare that aspect.

He has better shot power, but not really sure that's entirely relevant. Ronaldo has a stronger shot than Messi too, but I wouldn't even use that as a point in his favor when he was popping off almost 7 shots per game during his pomp and carelessly wasting attacks at times.

 

[wr8_utd]

This thread, much like Messi in Miami, should be for fans of the players to enjoy their favorites for a final few years. But neither fanbase should really try to use their exploits in these two atrocious leagues to make any sort of point. They've chosen to give up on serious football leagues and can't be considered serious footballers anymore. Messi though, could still easily have played for a top team but he's chosen a joke league (which is fair for him given he's won the World Cup now).

 

[RashyGiggsy]

Now that the Saudis managed to secure som big past it names and handful of good players he can boast about doing it in the saudi pro league at 38.

Huh? Saudi is doing a form of money laundering, though what it is attempting to launder is its reputation. It's doing this by paying these players astronomical amounts to play there. Still, Filipino women, Africa men who go to work in Saudi get their passports taken from them, often receive no pay, and live in forms of modern slavery. Yemen has many refugees from Africa. When Saudi bombed Yemen, many of these refugees fled across the border to Saudi Arabia only to be shot in cold blood.

For me, what Ronaldo does as a player in their league is irrelevant. He has forever tarnished his reputation by lending legitimacy to Saudi for a large payoff.

And people are upset by Greenwood and Toney!!!???

 

[RedRonaldo]

MLS and the Süper Lig are miles better than the Saudi League. And Zlatan was bagging goals at that rate in the MLS at 37-38.

Well correct me if I am wrong but you’ve clearly suggested most 38 years semi-retired quality CL striker could score that amount of goals too, then how do you explain the likes of Benzema only score 3 goals in 6 games, Mane score 3 goals in 9 games, and Mahrez scores 1 goals in 3 games so far in Saudi this season then?

You know Ronaldo has already scored 9 goals in 9 games this season. Far better that all other 3 combined together. And since they are all nowhere near 38 and they are all clearly least to say “semi-retire quality CL striker or goalscorer” according to your claim, they should be all easily scoring that amount of goals too, if not better. No?

 

[RedRonaldo]

Saudi League only has been played for 3 games. The other were mere friendlys.

All is measured by goals now, what a pathetic way to see football.

They are all playing in same competitions. It’s valid comparison in whatever means you want to stretch it as “friendly”.

 

[Lay]

This thread, much like Messi in Miami, should be for fans of the players to enjoy their favorites for a final few years. But neither fanbase should really try to use their exploits in these two atrocious leagues to make any sort of point. They've chosen to give up on serious football leagues and can't be considered serious footballers anymore. Messi though, could still easily have played for a top team but he's chosen a joke league (which is fair for him given he's won the World Cup now).

Yeah, let the fans enjoy the final seasons for the players in shite leagues

 

[RedRonaldo]

So you said better off the ball movement and then offensive positioning in the area which is pretty much the same thing. The movement Maradona did and Ronaldo did off the ball are categorically very different, so I wouldn't even use that in Ronaldo's favor.

It's like saying Ronaldo has better off the ball movement than Xavi. The movement the 2 of them will do on the field is fundamentally very different, so I find it pointless to compare that aspect.

He has better shot power, but not really sure that's entirely relevant. Ronaldo has a stronger shot than Messi too, but I wouldn't even use that as a point in his favor when he was popping off almost 7 shots per game during his pomp and carelessly wasting attacks at times.

You know there must be at least something in his favour if he manage to win 5 CL as top scorer of competitions and being all time top scorer in football history, other than just “being carelessly wasting attack at times” as you’ve described.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

You know there must be at least something in his favour if he manage to win 5 CL as top scorer of competitions and being all time top scorer in football history, other than just “being carelessly wasting attack at times” as you’ve described.

Something in his favor over Maradona?

He runs faster, jumps higher and is a bigger goal threat in the box.

In general, Maradona trumps him in everything else. That's not really an indictment on Ronaldo like some think.

 

[RedRonaldo]

Something in his favor over Maradona?

He runs faster, jumps higher and is a bigger goal threat in the box.

In general, Maradona trumps him in everything else. That's not really an indictment on Ronaldo like some think.

I don’t fully agree. Maradona is far superior in dribbling, passing and playmaking, that’s no debate there. But apart from that, everything else is debatable.

 

[simonhch]

The bumps in here every time Ronaldo scores in a semi pro league are hilarious.

 

[heraklion]

Well correct me if I am wrong but you’ve clearly suggested most 38 years semi-retired quality CL striker could score that amount of goals too, then how do you explain the likes of Benzema only score 3 goals in 6 games, Mane score 3 goals in 9 games, and Mahrez scores 1 goals in 3 games so far in Saudi this season then?

You know Ronaldo has already scored 9 goals in 9 games this season. Far better that all other 3 combined together. And since they are all nowhere near 38 and they are all clearly least to say “semi-retire quality CL striker or goalscorer” according to your claim, they should be all easily scoring that amount of goals too, if not better. No?

Hamdallah is a top goalscorer in that league and scored 114 goals in 116 games (almost a goal a game) and is the current top scorer in the league. Does this make him better than Benzema. Mane, Mahrez etc. too?

I wonder why PL, La Liga teams have not shown any interest in "Hamdallah the great" so far and also why Al Nassr sits close to the bottom.

 

[RedRonaldo]

Hamdallah is a top goalscorer in that league and scored 114 goals in 116 games (almost a goal a game) and is the current top scorer in the league. Does this make him better than Benzema. Mane, Mahrez etc. too?

I wonder why PL, La Liga teams have not shown any interest in "Hamdallah the great" so far and also why Al Nassr sits close to the bottom.

So is he 38 year old then? Did he score any of 1 those goals as 38 year old? Or just 1 goal as 38 year old? Why do you have to back off from the original claim and lie?

Just let me remind you once and for all, that’s my original post:

Already 28 goals in 32 games in 2023. Not many 38 years old could score that many.

And here’s the counter claim:

I'm guessing most 38 year old semi-retired CL-quality strikers could score that many if all the games they play have the intensity of a friendly.

 

[heraklion]

So is he 38 year old then? Did he score any of 1 those goals as 38 year old? Or just 1 goal as 38 year old? Why do you have to back off from your claim and lie?

Just let me remind you once and for all, that’s my original post:



And here’s your claim:

I guess you confused me with another poster, check who you are quoting before accusing people of lying..

 

[RedRonaldo]

I guess you confused me with another poster, check who you are quoting before accusing people of lying..

Yeh that’s my mistake, my apology. I saw an H and thought I am talking to same person all the while. But such confusion only happened when you suddenly get into middle of our conversation. My mistake though