Juve just did it with Ramsey. Its always been a thing. If the club doesn't want him but can't sell him, and the player doesn't want to be there... What's the point? Just agree to end the contract early.
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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You probably are going to need to replace Dave too and it also looks like Werner and Ziyech are on their way out. Barca are screwing with you just as much as they are with us and we know from our experience last season that losing can become a habit as quickly as winning does. I don't know the youth prospects as well as you do other than Ampadu for Welsh reasons so maybe it is not as bad as it looks from outside but Tuchel seemed genuinely rattled after the Arsenal game.
The upgrade of Ole/Ralf to Ten Hag is a bigger upgrade than any other club has done this summer transfer wise.
that’s very true..
Rangnick appointment was one of the worst things to happen at the club (from a coaching and dressing room harmony perspective). Only saving grace was he called out the board and mismanagement elsewhere in the club, albeit to hide his deficiencies.
feck him trying to sneak off to Chelsea. I’d 100% go along with releasing him, if he signs to agree not to play for a PL club in 2022-23.
Eh not really, it was an impossible job for anyone but it also wasn't helped by bringing in MLS level coaches. The true damage was done with Ole, Rangnick was only interim, no real damage was done there, just an annoying waste of time half season. We still got Europa League at the end of the day, so it's whatever.
Oh I’m sure Mendes could find a club that wants him. Whether it’s one that ticks both Ronnie’s box (CL) and Mendes’ (massive commission) is an altogether different matter.
I doubt Ronnie is that bothered about the money; it’s those CL goals he wants. That won’t align with what Mendes is after though.
I’m not making excuses for Ronaldo; he’s a grown man and Mendes is merely his employee. Still, advisers don’t necessarily do what’s best for their client when they stand to gain so much themselves.
Dave is kinda done anyway, legend that he has been. I'd drive Werner and Ziyech to the airport myself, they've been cack for a while and although I think they'd shine on the right setup, it obviously isn't going to happen at Chelsea.
Tuchel was pissed off for sure, we were shite but there's weeks left of the pre-season and more time for the window.
Swap deal for Kante? Then we can tell Barca/De Jong to feck off too and try to properly solve the defensive midfield issue next summer.
I'm very against this and against Mendes collecting a huge commission fee. Definitely whats happening in my opinion.
Totally agree.
Why are you projecting your own opinion as if held by ETH?
Ronaldo in May after ETH confirmed, at the end of the season:
“I hope we have success, of course, because, if you have success, all of Manchester is going to have success as well. I wish him the best.
“We are happy and excited, not only as players, but the supporters as well.
“I wish him the best and let’s believe that, next year, we are going to win trophies.”
Agree, feels like they are trying to simultaneously sneak him to a rival club that they know we’d never sell him to, whilst also trying to maximise the money Medes will make from a free transfer.
And they’ve basically been on strike to try doing it.
So feck em I say.
Agree to free transfer to any non-PL club.
Send them, tails between their legs begging Bayern on cheap wages and feck all agents fees.
So if we sell him for 2M £ it makes any difference?
Or do we need 6M £?
The club and others couldn't care less if there is a fee or not. Free releases are quite common, especially if you have players with over valued wages. They turn into zero or even negative value because of their salary.
Europe is full of formerly known players sitting their contracts out on some bench. Every league has a few of those overpaid backup goalies still at their clubs.
They all got the chance to determine their contracts but they don't want to because they rather make more money than play more minutes.
Letting Ronaldo go would in no way set a precedent, the only reason it does not happen too often is because the players won't agree. I'm sure Jones, Bailly, Romero or Lingard all had the offer to nullify their contracts at one time.
Ronaldos salary costs the club over 20M a year.
Letting him go now means losing a very hypothetical fee which no club realistically would pay. And we already knew that last summer, so those 15M were not invested in hopefor profit on that.
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Why do people think that Ronaldo will ruin the game and team structure? I was surprised how hard he worked for the team especially in the CL.
We suffered last season because of the various other reasons and not only because of Ronaldo. Even if a forward participates a lot in team-play, he cant do the defense job.
Chelsea have a very hardworking team and were missing prolific striker. He might be good for them but if we dont replace him with another striker we are doomed for sure.
i don’t see any issue at all with him going to Chelsea on a free. He’s quite literally a very heavy ball and chain for any mobile attack.
They’ve already got rid of one immobile lump at huge expense recently so they should still have the practice when trying to get rid of another one in 12 months time……..,
I tend to agree. I think his work rate is fine mostly, impressive on occasion, but patchy as evidently he sometimes chooses to reserve energy. I think he'd do well for ETH or another top manager if he's limited to playing 60-90 minutes a week across two games, rather than playing 180 minutes a week as he did most of last season, and he gives it his all for tge minutes he's on the pitch. The bigger challenge is managing his ego rather than managing him tactically.
The Ole project was such a disaster in the end. We've seen improvement albeit in preseason already, someone with better capabilities than Rangnick could have got top 4 in my opinion. Getting Europa is nothing to be grateful for except a second route into the CL.
Nonsense, we had not attacking patterns of play last season because we had two managers and accompanying coaches who werent up to the job, and he still scored a load of goals.
I’d swap him with either in a heartbeat
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Wow, standards in the gutter. Havertz is a different prospect to Werner though.
Just force him to stay. He doesn't have any leverage, and will be professional in any case.
Worked alright for Spurs and Kane and they received a 100m offer
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Exactly. He can come back with a concrete offer upwards of 40 million pounds, and we'll think about it. Otherwise, he will have to check his ego and get to work. I don't think he has the ability to force a move at this point.
Ofcourse, we could have planned better. I certainly would have tried Toney, (lot many won't like it) but other than that it's a dull market. You guys were lucky to get Jesus.
someone said earlier in this thread that ronaldo is the solution to the exact problem that he himself creates.
That is his perfect description. In his younger days it was fine as he scored 50 goals a season but it’s demonstrably not worth it now. He messes everything up.
mutual termination of contract and he can feck off to whoever is stupid enough to pay him x000k a week.
id be very happy with that and I’m someone who thinks martial is a complete waste of rations for the most part.
Posters on here don’t seem to realise how far off we are, your choice is a fecking old dramatic Ronaldo who will change how we play, cause a year’s worth of negativity and doesn’t really want to play as a 9 versus two hardworking, fast players who can play 9. Obviously they will never be close to him in his pomp but he’s not far off 40! Havertz is a real prospect but Werner would suit us as well. Both would make the team better all round.
This is about getting into the CL places, we aren’t going to sign a 20 PL goals a season striker.
If he ends up at Chelsea via any means then for me I don’t care what he did in his first stint he should never be welcomed back to the club in any capacity in the future. Maybe I’m being overly emotional about this but going on strike to move to a domestic rival is beyond any come back.
He scores goals, even in that dysfunctional set up of last year. 2 and a half years off 40 btw. This is a problem we didnt need this summer, priority should have been sorting the substandard midfield, thats the one area (personnel-wise) where we are seriously far behind the competition.
Ronaldo and his camp have become the joke of the year. Legend!
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I really hope he is gone before the season starts. We can ill afford to be surrounded by the circus that is Ronaldo when we're trying to build this new team.
It’s my opinion based on every thing I read and see.. I should have put in IMO as none of us know for sure for what is what is going on…but I honestly think the team and management would be better off without Ronaldo.
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He's being weird if he is asking to be released from the contract without having any suitors... very strange behaviour from him if true.
He will score goals wherever he goes but he’s not good enough to carry teams to anything meaningful anymore. Now it comes to the detriment of the collective - Chelsea’s top PL scorer was Mount with 11 goals and yet they scored 19 more goals than us as a team.
Not far from 40 and you specifying he’s 37 and a half are the same thing. He’s way past his prime.
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