It's awful here, when we have an international tourno. All these part time spastics join in. . .as if we're going to war or something. I blame Euro 96. Generally, fans of lesser clubs follow the national side, which is what you'd expect, really.
Cricket: ICC World Twenty20 tournament Sept 2007 in South Africa
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It's awful here, when we have an international tourno. All these part time spastics join in. . .as if we're going to war or something. I blame Euro 96. Generally, fans of lesser clubs follow the national side, which is what you'd expect, really.
Yes and the admins taking it up has not helped things. Eventually given ODIs won't extinguish after 32 years invested in them, T20 will just proved too much to sustain. Hooplah period will die down and once it is getting same crowds and TV money as ODIs, it will be gone.
Yes, a bigger encounter means more tensions. But still as I said why would any Indian fan support Pak over his own team? No matter how much you hate that sport or format I would rather Bangla win it than Pak.
PC is being for the sake of it which I'm not
If you knew your history well (which I'm pretty sure you do), you'd know more about the existing situation
Salv just likes to be different. He even hates old Hindi movies. We should burn him.
It's the same in here...where people who don't care much about cricket (women...bless 'em) also try to get into the spirit of things trying to give two fecks
All that springs up from the general manipulation of patriotism and rivalry
"Shut up already, you wankers."
I sure know the history and despite what leaders of both nations may try to portray,I know the current situation as well. In fact, even if we reslove the K issue, Pak and India will remain long term rivals, Indo-Pak working together for the better of sub-continent is a pipe dream for those who have no clue of the current scenario in world politics.
well, for me, it's the biggest rivalry in football, perhaps even sport. You've obviously got a major rivalry with Pakistan, but I've seen pictures of Pakistanis welcoming Indian players and generally bending over backwards for their guests, and visa versa, when Indians have hosted Pakistan. I suspect both sets of fans have given their rivals a standing ovation, sometime in the past and all. But that would never happen between United and Liverpool. Although, Salv's position is a bit strange, perhaps he just doesn't hate Pakistan. I HATE Liverpool, and I can't help it. . .sometimes I wished that I didn't.
Perhaps people from both nations need to get some perspective. It's only a game.
I still don't see what's wrong with supporting your country. You're a mad bastard.
That still doesn;t mean you should start supporting the opposition.
United got a lot of glory hunters, imagine someone at OT thinking atmosphere is shit and disillusioned with prawn-sandwich brigade, starts cheering for the opposition because they are the underdogs.
Are you having a laugh?
Exactly. Forget the opposition for the moment, hell we just want to see our team win.
Champions.
I'm not sure why I should be, again, this is edging towards an area which I couldn't be arsed to touch on now
That's not the same. If you're at OT supporting United, you would, despite
Well you don't have to but you seem to have problem with others doing it as well.
It's got nothing to do with hating Pakistan.
I lived last year in Torino. In our groups we were 3-4 Indians with one Pakistani and another Bangladeshi. In the end, the Pakistani was probably my second closest friend there. I won't call my self patriotic as well, hate many things Indian and toying with idea of living abroad. But we have a fresh history of acrimony with Pakistan and a lot of issues are still unresolved. As an Indian, makes no sense to me why you would support Pak over yourself. I can understand if it was Aus-Pak final and someone supporting Pak but against yourselves?
Doubt the educated and well-opinionated youth of either countries give two fecks
That's you confusing me with zing
As with any rivalry, the mind's is influenced at an early stage often enough not to have an unattached perspective, IMHO
You don't have to support your country, though for a young democracy like India with a plethora of problems concerning the diversity of people, we need patriotism even if it is OTT.
It;s funny how you asked me about the history when you yourself seem completely out of touch with it.
So you can cheer on the opposition against United if you are watching on TV? Hey almost every team against United is an underdog, natural tendencies and all that.
Yeah, I appreciate it's a strange stance. Would you find it absurd if Salv were to support. . .say Aus over India, too?
I hope they do. Otherwise country would be in big trouble if people can't be bothered to solve one of the biggest problem we face.
As I though, you are a a typical PC wannabe intellect from south.
Difference being I support United, unlike India and cricket
Thought I've mentioned this, the F1 comparison, etc
Anyway, ignoring Salv's mental problems, Sharma and Uttapa looked really good this tournament. And Gambhir, Pathan, Bhajji made decent comebacks. It'll be interesting to see who gets picked against the Aussies.
I ain't from south, the rest is a e-judgment...said to be the most accurate of them all
I've already admitted to wanting to bum Sreesanth, what more do you ask of me?
Harbajhan was rubbish. Pathan should never have been dropped. Sharma's average
I could respond to some of the inane bullshit spouted in this thread but I just got home and I'm still on a high.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
I would. I can understand when you don't like a sport and you don't care your country wins but you don;t support the other team.
It is completely different with Mancunians hating England football team. For starters it was not like that always. Events in last decade or two like Beckham after 98 getting the worst abuse I have seen from oppo fans. Then more importantly they have United as a team to identify with. Also don;t think if you had a major problem with say French over some issue right now, even United fans would cheer the French team over England.
You've spelt China wrong by the way. Chenai Indeed.
I can't believe I have wasted another hour of my life on an inane debate on this forum. fecking Internet.
Well, yes. The game is all about clubs, local rivalries etc International football just doesn't feel the same. And I wouldn't say it was hatred, probably apathy if anything.
Chennai
As I said, completely different than cricket situation.
Mate, it's two different countries. That might be seen as the normal thing in England but most people here would think the English are right bastards for not getting behind your team. We don't see things the same way you do when it comes to supporting your team.
I support my team, United. I don't have proper passion for any other club/team, in any sport. Got a soft spot for Lancs, but it's hardly the same thing. Follow the national team too(cricket), but again it's not the same thing.
I only posted an hour ago, come back and there's a few pages of 'crap' in this thread...
It's only a little crappy cup competition that nobody cares about!
I'm still fecking gutted though. You don't know what it was like seeing him hit such a shot thinking it will go for a 6 only to come down in some Indians hand!
It's only a little crappy cup competition that nobody cares about!
I'm still fecking gutted though. You don't know what it was like seeing him hit such a shot thinking it will go for a 6 only to come down in some Indians hand!
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"We don't see things the same way you do when it comes to supporting your country."
that's what I meant to say
As per the metaphors, if you substitute 'Beckham' and 'Ronaldo' to hockey and football then you have a similar scenario to United and England with respect to Other sports in India and cricket in here
I only posted an hour ago, come back and there's a few pages of 'crap' in this thread...
It's only a little crappy cup competition that nobody cares about!
I'm still fecking gutted though. You don't know what it was like seeing him hit such a shot thinking it will go for a 6 only to come down in some Indians hand!
trust me, i know how it feels like but i was supporting India
but well done to pakistan.. they're becoming a fantastic team.. amazing bowling
You're hardly going to war. It's a game. Some are more passionate than others.