Cricket: ICC World Twenty20 tournament Sept 2007 in South Africa

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September 11th-24th

R1: Group Stage (To be played between the 11th-15th)
R2: Super-Eights (Two Groups)
R3: Semi-Finals (To be played on the 22nd)
R4: Final (To be played on the 24th)

Fixture List - Cricinfo / Fixture List - BBC

Teams/Squad List - BBC / Teams/Players Statistics - BBC

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R1: Group Stage

Group A ----- (P) -- (Pts)
South Africa -- 2 ----- 4
Bangladesh --- 2 ----- 2
West Indies --- 2 ----- 0

Group B
Australia ----- 2 ----- 2
England ------ 2 ----- 2
Zimbabwe ---- 2 ----- 2

Group C
Sri Lanka ----- 2 ----- 4
New Zealand -- 2 ----- 2
Kenya -------- 2 ----- 0

Group D
India --------- 2 ----- 3
Pakistan ------ 2 ----- 2
Scotland ----- 2 ----- 1

Results:
Group A, Johannesburg: South Africa 208-2 (17.4 ovs) bt West Indies 205-6 (20 ovs) by 8 wkts
Group C, Durban: New Zealand 74-1 (7.4 overs) beat Kenya 73 (16.5 overs) by nine wickets
Group D, Durban: Pakistan 171-9 (20 overs) bt Scotland 120 (19.3 overs) by 51 runs
Group B, Cape Town: Zimbabwe 139-5 (19.5 overs) bt Australia 138-9 (20 overs) by five wickets
Group A, Johannesburg: Bangladesh 165-4 (18 ovs) bt West Indies 164-8 (20 ovs) by 6 wkts
Group B, Cape Town: England 188-9 (20 overs) bt Zimbabwe 138-7 (20 overs) by 50 runs
Group D, Durban: India v Scotland - match abandoned due to rain
Group C, Johannesburg: Sri Lanka 260-6 (20 ovs) bt Kenya 88 (19.3 ovs) by 172 runs
Group B, Cape Town: Australia 136-2 (14.5 overs) bt England 135 (20 overs) by eight wickets
Group D, Durban: India 141-9 (20 overs) tie with Pakistan 141-7 (India win 3-0 bowl-out)
Group C, Johannesburg: Sri Lanka 168-3 (18.5 overs) bt New Zealand 164-7 by seven wickets
Group A, Cape Town: South Africa 146-3 (18.5 ovs) bt Bangladesh 144 (19.3 ovs) by 7 wkts

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R2: Super-Eights (Two Groups)

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NOTE: SEEDS ALREADY ANNOUNCED BEFORE THE START OF THE TOURNAMENT.
Seeds A1, B2, C1, D2 in one group, seeds A2, B1, C2, D1 in the other. If any non-seed qualifies from their group, they will replace the eliminated seeds in the draw...

Group A: Bangladesh, South Africa (A1), West Indies (A2)
Group B: England (B2), Australia (B1), Zimbabwe
Group C: New Zealand (C1), Sri Lanka (C2), Kenya
Group D: India (D2), Pakistan (D1), Scotland
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Group 1 ----------- (P) -- (Pts) (r/r)
(D2) India ----------- 3 ----- 4 (0.75)
(C1) New Zealand --- 3 ----- 4 (0.05)
(A1) South Africa --- 3 ----- 4 (0.12)
(B2) England -------- 3 ----- 0 (-0.7)

Group 2
(D1) Pakistan -------- 3 ----- 6 (0.84)
(B1) Australia ------- 3 ----- 4 (2.26)
(C2) Sri Lanka ------- 3 ----- 2 (-0.7)
(A2) Bangladesh ----- 3 ----- 0 (-2.03)

Results:
Johannesburg: New Zealand 190 (20 overs) beat India 180-9 (20 overs) by 10 runs
Cape Town: Australia 124-1 (13.5 ovs) bt Bangladesh 123-8 (20 ovs) by 9 wkts
Cape Town: South Africa 154-8 (20 ovs) bt England 135-7 (20 ovs) by 19 runs
Johannesburg: Pakistan 189-6 (20 overs) beat Sri Lanka 156-9 (20 overs) by 33 runs
Durban: New Zealand 164-9 bt England 159-8 by five runs
Johannesburg: Pakistan 165-4 (19.1 overs) beat Australia 164-7 (20 overs) by six wickets
Johannesburg: Sri Lanka 147-5 (20 overs) beat Bangladesh 83 all out (15.5 overs) by 64 runs
Durban: South Africa 158-4 (19.1 overs) bt New Zealand 153-8 (20 overs)
Durban: India 218-4 (20 overs) bt England 200-6 (20 overs) by 18 runs
Cape Town: Australia 102-0 bt Sri Lanka 101 by 10 wickets
Cape Town: Pakistan 141-6 (19 overs) bt Bangladesh 140 (19.4 overs) by four wickets
Durban: India 153-5 (20 overs) bt South Africa 116-9 (20 overs) by 37 runs

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R3: Semi-Finals

Cape Town: Pakistan 147-4 (18.5 overs) beat New Zealand 143-8 (20 overs) by six wickets

Durban: India 188-5 beat Australia 173-7 by 15 runs

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R4: Final

Johannesburg: India 157-5 (20 overs) bt Pakistan 152 (19.3 overs) by five runs

India beat Pakistan in the World Twenty20 final by five runs to clinch their first major trophy since 1983.

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What do you think will happen? Which team do you think might go through to the finals?

Is there even a big interest in this form of cricket, not just in general but from the ones who like to see the proper form of cricket?
 
Should be interesting. I reckon Pakistan might win it. Won't be watching it though. It isn't as if there isn't enough cricket as it is.
 
Can't be arsed to watch it.

Hopefully it's the only Twenty20 tournament we'll ever have to see.
 
Desert Eagle said:
Should be interesting. I reckon Pakistan might win it. Won't be watching it though. It isn't as if there isn't enough cricket as it is.
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I know what you mean, I'm in the middle really, I haven't ever watched or took interest in Twenty20 before.

The recent World Cup ended up a little sour with the death of Bob, the dominance of one team, and the farce that was the end of the final. The ticket prices were a big problem there but they seem to have sorted that out this time, offering very cheap prices.

It may not have the full A-list of internationals in the teams but it will certainly have the majority and is probably the first major international tournament of it's kind.

There certainly isn't as much media exposure as the proper WC so it will be interesting to see if it takes off...
 
ZIDANE said:
I know what you mean, I'm in the middle really, I haven't ever watched or took interest in Twenty20 before.

The recent World Cup ended up a little sour with the death of Bob, the dominance of one team, and the farce that was the end of the final. The ticket prices were a big problem there but they seem to have sorted that out this time, offering very cheap prices.

It may not have the full A-list of internationals in the teams but it will certainly have the majority and is probably the first major international tournament of it's kind.

There certainly isn't as much media exposure as the proper WC so it will be interesting to see if it takes off...
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Agreed. It seems strange though that for what is basically their big chance at getting a bigger piece of the pie that is international cricket, the 20-20 organizers haven't really marketed it as well as I think they could. I thin a lot of people just wish it wasn't there tbh. It only devalues cricket as a sport. Its the equivalent of Baseball having a home run derby decide every game.
 
Shoaib to be sent home after incident

Osman Samiuddin

September 7, 2007



Shoaib Akhtar will not play in the ICC World Twenty20, after being sent home following a dressing-room scuffle in which he allegedly hit Mohammad Asif with a bat © AFP

Shoaib Akhtar's troubled career has taken yet another twist following a decision by the Pakistan board to send him back from Pakistan's 15-man squad for the ICC World Twenty20 after a dressing-room scuffle in which he was alleged to have hit fellow fast bowler Mohammad Asif with a bat.

The Pakistan Cricket Board has responded by handing Shoaib an indefinite ban, pending a disciplinary hearing that will be conducted once the team returns from South Africa.

"Shoaib's ban is an indefinite suspension," Nasim Ashraf, the board chairman, told Cricinfo. "There is no question of Shoaib returning to South Africa for the latter half of the tournament [in the event of Pakistan playing more than five matches]."

"When the team management returns [from the tournament], the board will launch a full investigation and disciplinary hearing into the matter. Further action based on that is likely," Ashraf said.

A press release issued on Friday by team manager Talat Ali in Johannesburg said, "The decision [to send him home] has been taken on an incident that took place yesterday [6th September] afternoon at the Centurion Park after the practice session of the Pakistan team. It was reported to us by Asif that Shoaib had hit him on his leg with a bat and abused him."

The bowler was already on six weeks' probation following a breach of discipline last month after he left a training camp in Karachi without informing officials. Two hearings were held, after which it was decided that a monetary fine would be suspended pending his behaviour. Ashraf indicated that action would be likely.

The sorry development means that Pakistan finds itself in the spotlight at a major international tournament once again for all the wrong reasons. Shoaib and Asif were sent back on the eve of their opening match at the Champions Trophy last year, after they had tested positive for banned anabolic steroids. During the World Cup in March, Pakistan's disastrous performance took backstage to the death of Bob Woolmer.

The decision will be a blow to the team's chances at the tournament, as Pakistan's strength was widely considered to lie in a pace attack that included Umar Gul and Rao Iftikhar Anjum. No decision has been taken yet on a replacement though initial reports suggest Mohammad Sami may be called up.

In any case, a replacement will also depend on approval from the ICC's technical committee. The Participating Nations' Agreement, which every team signs when taking part in ICC tournaments, refers to the replacement of players and there is provision for a player to be replaced for reasons other than injury: "Except for medical grounds, players may only be replaced in exceptional circumstances such as family bereavement or where a player is suspended and such suspension relates to an incident which is unrelated to the event."
 
Havn't read the above article but I heard about that - Shoaib hitting M.Asif with a bat in the thigh area apparently - What a career that guy has had and could have had... Just shows not only do you need talent but the temperament to go with it...

A few other big names that might not be playing are Ponting (has taken time off from this event for personal reasons) and I think Muralitharan maybe injured..
 
"Please don't portray me as a villain. I am not a villain."

Shamed Shoaib asks for leniency

Shoaib Akhtar has begged for leniency after the Pakistan Cricket Board threw him out of the national squad for hitting a team-mate with a bat.

The paceman, who struck Mohammad Asif during practice on Thursday ahead of the ICC World Twenty20 in South Africa, fears a life ban from the PCB.

He said: "I am sorry and it should not have happened. I ask the authorities not to ban me for a lengthy period."

Pakistan have replaced Shoaib with 22-year-old all-rounder Sohail Tanvir.

Shoaib, speaking to reporters on Saturday after arriving at Lahore airport from South Africa, said the incident in the nets in Johannesburg had begun when the all-rounder Shahid Afridi had insulted his family.

He said: "I got agitated when Afridi used bad words about my family, and Asif was accidentally struck on the thigh.

"I can't tolerate it if someone uses bad words about my family, even if it's in a lighter vein."

Asif suffered a bruised thigh but will be fit in time for Pakistan's first game, against Scotland, on 12 September.

"Please don't portray me as a villain. I am not a villain," said Shoaib.

He insisted he would not now join the rebel Indian Cricket League, despite having previously rejected a high-figure offer.

A PCB official said Shoaib was suspended indefinitely until a disciplinary meeting.

The paceman will also have to explain his comments against a PCB doping tribunal.

Shoaib last week criticised the tribunal that banned him for two years and Asif for one after they tested positive for the banned steroid nandrolone in October last year.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6985230.stm
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PAK will always guarantee some type of incident no matter where they are... :rolleyes::(
 
I thought the late Uncle Bob had finally sorted it out and PAK had a bit of consistency, then in the/his last year it fell apart in spectacular fashion including the cheat/protest at the Oval...

This whole situation just follows on from the vice-captain declining the captaincy and the two most experienced batsmen joining the unofficial Indian league... :wenger:

Still on their day they can compete with the best of sides, I actually fancy them as strong candidates for this tournament. M.Asif seems to be a top class bowler in the making and talking about imploding Afridi may be one to watch with the bat...
 
I thought England stood a very good chance of winning it but then Bopara got injured and they replaced him with Anderson.
 
FlawlessThaw said:
I thought England stood a very good chance of winning it but then Bopara got injured and they replaced him with Anderson.
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I still think they do.

Some of the other sides haven't played as much twenty20 as England players will have, particularly India I think, who are just beginning to get into this short form.

England have been playing this for a while in the county tournaments and they have opted to bring some 'specialists' in so I still think they are as likely as anyone.

I would say the level of quality/class is bridged in this short form but Australia, as always, will take some beating!
 
ZIDANE said:
I still think they do.

Some of the other sides haven't played as much twenty20 as England players will have, particularly India I think, who are just beginning to get into this short form.

England have been playing this for a while in the county tournaments and they have opted to bring some 'specialists' in so I still think they are as likely as anyone.

I would say the level of quality/class is bridged in this short form but Australia, as always, will take some beating!
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Actually just heard Mascarenhas has replaced Sidebottom who has an injury. So I reckon ENgland could stand a decent go.
 
feck off with this shit.

I recently read that ICC now are hoping to have cricket as an Olympic sport with this shit being played. It would be a massive shame if it gets pushed more and more becomes it appeals to idiots who don't give a feck about real cricket.
 
Shoaib Akhtar timeline...

A tale of intrigue, injuries and incidents

If you wanted to write about Shoaib Akhtar, going by his figures would be among the worst ways to do it. Nine years, 43 Tests, 169 wickets, 133 ODIs, 208 wickets; it's not even a tenth of the story. A few seasons on from his finest performance over a full series, his knees and one ankle were crocked, chit-chat about his action continued, he faced a two-year lay-off after failing a random drugs test (he was later acquitted) but missed the Champions Trophy in 2006 and the World Cup in 2007. Cricinfo casts a glance at the troubles, travails, intrigues, injuries, incidents, controversies and scandals of the Rawalpindi Express

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/238970.html
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For anyone that wants to know and the article is a bit of a long one... Anyway enough about him...

PS I have updated the first post
 
crappycraperson said:
feck off with this shit.

I recently read that ICC now are hoping to have cricket as an Olympic sport with this shit being played. It would be a massive shame if it gets pushed more and more becomes it appeals to idiots who don't give a feck about real cricket.
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I can understand your viewpoint and to be honest I think it will lift off as it is more exciting to the lesser of the cricket enthusiasts. However, it won't take top spot... Test matches will always be the real judge of talent / teams and 50 overs will always be the main short form version, in my eyes...

As I've said, it doesn't seem as big with the advertising and the interest just isn't there to me..

I've never taken that much of an interest in it myself so I guess we will see after this event...
 
Disgrace to the sport.

The concept is shit and caters to the imbeciles who only want to see the bowlers tonked about.Free hit my fecking arse...

I agree with crappy, feck off with this shit.
 
The traditionalists might shout me down, but Twenty20 put renewed life into the game here in England since its creation.

Test cricket is suffering badly on the Sub Continent these days, and along with the 50 over game, can end up withering on the vine as a contest all too often.

It'll be good for the sport's global appeal, and can be a real leveller. It is...exciting, and in today's world and the future, cricket needs that.

This will become the only World Cup in not too long a time i reckon.

*Shields himself in case of hurled rotten fruit and vegetables.*

As for the tournament, i do believe that England can win this one. And we normally have success in the early days of sports we invent don't we? ;)

Experience at Twnty20 should be of great benefit.
 
Donado said:
Disgrace to the sport.

The concept is shit and caters to the imbeciles who only want to see the bowlers tonked about.Free hit my fecking arse...

I agree with crappy, feck off with this shit.
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Bowlers like Shoiab Akhtar have very recently come out and said the exact same thing...

To me cricket in general is starting to favour the batsmen. Just look at some of the scores achieved in the last WC with records being broken (I know the boundaries were a little short at times but still). The one day series just gone - I'm sure when I was growing up anything around 350 would easily win you the game. M.Yousuf recently achieved a record breaking amount of runs in a season taking over from a legend of the game.

I think a lot of it is to do with money these days, after all money talks...
 
It'll become huge just like One Day cricket.

But you nutters love that form of the game.

Weirdos.
 
ODI cricket used to be ok when they made pitches that offered something to the bowlers. Occasional flat pitch is fine but not every fecking one like now days.
 
Twenty fecking 20 :wenger:

As rightly pointed out, its for bandwagon jumpers who cant be arsed with the real game.

I bet it will have a glam angle to it with cheerleaders in bikinis and shitloads of random models and pop stars. feck off ICC.

Its just not cricket.
 
RapidRed said:
Twenty fecking 20 :wenger:

As rightly pointed out, its for bandwagon jumpers who cant be arsed with the real game.

I bet it will have a glam angle to it with cheerleaders in bikinis and shitloads of random models and pop stars. feck off ICC.

Its just not cricket.
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It helps youngsters identify with the game, but apart from that i agree. Still watch it though, can be bloody entertaining. (hypocritical i know!)
 
I do agree that it might increase the global appeal of the game. Its just that I enjoy cricket in its most traditional form. In fact I dont want to see a massive globalization of the game. All it will do is devalue test cricket and promote half arsed commercial stuff like this.

In an ideal situation, I would like the game to sustain itself financially while still being limited to the 8 odd real test playing nations.
 
I'll admit I'm watching this:nervous:...I was flicking through the channels and suddenly saw this hot as feck bird, toned and all.I'm watching it for the crowd now.
 
SA vs WI.

On in about half an hour I think....right that's it...I can only handle David Lloyd for that much...
 
This is obviously not proper cricket. And I really hope it doesn't become a regular thing. Cricket isn't a big enough sport to accommodate 3 forms. The art of bowling will eventually vanish and we could end up with something as boring as baseball. If we have an event like this just once in 4 years it should be ok. As long as it doesn't affect proper cricket it can be quite fun. But that's unrealistic.

I'll probably end up watching it as well.
 
Watch it for the half naked girls if you must.

But I'm already on the internet for that.
 
Some of the concerns above are valid and I think the same, however, at the end of the day this form of cricket pulls in the crowds and eventually the money - the people concerned with making these events happen aren't going to turn such a thing down, expect it to stay and grow.

The next Twenty20 world cup is in 2009, nearly all test-nations now have a proper domestic competition, apart from India, who have plans for one in the new season. (that is the official one and nothing to do with the 'rebel league' started up their)

Their is only one match today, tomorrow will see 3 matches where following teams play...

08:00 GMT - Kenya v New Zealand
12:00 GMT - Pakistan v Scotland
16:00 GMT - Australia v Zimbabwe

I've added a fixture list link in the first post, if you want to note when any of the particular matches are. I'll update the first post as the tournament goes along so it is easier to keep up-to-date with the cup for those that aren't taking a huge interest in it.
 
South Africa are going to bowl first...

Team sheets:

South Africa: Graeme Smith (capt), Mark Boucher, Abraham de Villiers, Herschelle Gibbs, Justin Kemp, Albie Morkel, Morne Morkel, Makhaya Ntini, Vernon Philander, Shaun Pollock, Johan van der Wath.

West Indies: Ramnaresh Sarwan (capt), Dwayne Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Fidel Edwards, Chris Gayle, Daren Powell, Denesh Ramdin, Ravi Rampaul, Marlon Samuels, Devon Smith, Dwayne Smith.

And that's about as much as you're getting out of me, I'm not watching it!
 
RapidRed said:
I do agree that it might increase the global appeal of the game. Its just that I enjoy cricket in its most traditional form. In fact I dont want to see a massive globalization of the game. All it will do is devalue test cricket and promote half arsed commercial stuff like this.

In an ideal situation, I would like the game to sustain itself financially while still being limited to the 8 odd real test playing nations.
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I bet it'll become the most popular form of the game, sadly. If OD wasn't bad enough.
 
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