Cop in America doing a bad job, again

they parked a police car on the train tracks and left the suspect inside, surprising still alive.

 
I both seen & posted a lot of police doing heinous shit in this thread, but this debacle is up there with the worst.
 
Jesus fecking christ, that is so infuriating. I can vividly remember that interaction & the conversation that was had between the poor child & the cops.

 
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There are so many sad stories in the US (bad apples my arse). But this one sounds even more moving for some reason. The poor guy tried to do and say everything in a mild mannered way to stay alive. He's still dead. :(
 
A good rundown of someone pointlessly pulled over and arrested for not stopping, then calmly talked his way out of it and later sued for 200k in damages.

 


(Canada but anyway)
This is sooo….?!?!
Can’t believe someone actually ok’d this.
 
If the science is sound then it's a great idea. But it doesn't seem to help much...Bascially we seem to be looking for a brown man with a 50% chance of brown eyes. Not much to go on really!

My thinking is that even if the science is sound, your parameters are going to be vague enough that the very specific picture you're putting out is going to look like a lot of innocent people, who could then be inconvenienced for no great benefit (as you say, doesn't seem to help much). In that article by the police, they basically tell people to call them if they know a person who looks like that.
 
My thinking is that even if the science is sound, your parameters are going to be vague enough that the very specific picture you're putting out is going to look like a lot of innocent people, who could then be inconvenienced for no great benefit (as you say, doesn't seem to help much). In that article by the police, they basically tell people to call them if they know a person who looks like that.
Basically this. There's no way the science would be so specifically accurate as to not cause mistaken identities. It's not DNA.
 
I think it comes down to how the technology is used. If it is being used as described above that sounds stupid, but if used to narrow down a large group of suspects it can be valuable. Also, some characteristics can be more definitive than others (red hair, dark skin, blue eyes, etc.), so the genetic markers for those traits can be useful. If anyone is interested in the theory and methods, here is a good review:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6976916/#!po=19.3878
 
fecking he’ll that’s SOOOO dodgy…

Can’t believe there are people in here saying ‘if the science is sound’ etc.

The same was said about STR analysis, about fingerprint analysis, etc. Today those are seen as gold standards of evidence.

For me, the use of any new science/technology should come down to:
1. Is the science sound and the controls robust?
2. Is the science being used in a manner that is impartial and will provide a benefit to investigators?
3. Will the use of the science cause harm to people/communities simply by its use, and is that harm offset by the benefits?

Based on a quick read of the review article I posted I would say the answer to #1 is a definite maybe but I don't see how the answers to 2&3 are not negative.
 
couldn't this be argued/considered racial profiling?

The science of it is, by definition, racial/genetic profiling, but not in the biased sense. The use of it here though is most assuredly in the vein of negative racial profiling.