Getting ranked doesn't get you fights. Witter was mandatory for Hatton's British Title, so Hatton dumped it to pick up the WBU, which didn't have any mandatories. Hatton was happy to fight Smith but he wouldn't go anywhere near Vanzie. It's not like football where you enter a league and your guaranteed opposition. The opposition picks and choose who they want to fight. It boils down to 'too much risk, for too little money'.
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Getting ranked doesn't get you fights. Witter was mandatory for Hatton's British Title, so Hatton dumped it to pick up the WBU, which didn't have any mandatories. Hatton was happy to fight Smith but he wouldn't go anywhere near Vanzie. It's not like football where you enter a league and your guaranteed opposition. The opposition picks and choose who they want to fight. It boils down to 'too much risk, for too little money'.
Sure you can. Witter won a world title. Vanzie never progressed beyond domestic level.
Amateur fights aren't really relevant. Joshua lost to Whyte as an amateur.
Mainly because he didn't get the opportunities, but we're going round in circles now
Charles Burley never won a world title, many considered him to be as good as Sugar Ray, who in turn avoided him, even turning down career high money not to fight him. Many historians consider him to be Pound for Pound top 10 of all time and superior to Floyd Mayweather Jr. But that's another topic......
Smith had fought at 140 a number of times when he fought Hatton - Vanzie was still fighting nobodies at 135.
You can't honestly believe he wouldn't have had a better chance of forcing a fight with either Hatton or Witter by campaigning in the same division. It was a shallow division too - Witter won the vacant title by beating Alan Bosworth who trained himself in his garden.
McGregor with the hammer fists! I take it that's not something you see very often in boxing...
Yeah the Rabbit punches were getting a bit annoying. Conor had to fight his MMA instincts to not go further.
I assume you're taking the piss? 2 of the worst robberies in British title fight history. Vanzie arguably won every round
You don't seem to understand or want to accept that Hatton fought Smith and all the other crap he faced because he knew Vanzie could beat him and Smith couldn't.
Despite the quality of the match up there wasn't money in Witter-Vanzie, but no way would Witter have taken it without getting paid highly.
Excellent post.
Don't me fecking laugh. Absolutely ho one was culpable for Hatton's defeat than himself.
He had good 5 rounds and then he decided to be billy big bollox...
There were a couple of times when Floyd turned his back to Conor and for a split second it looked like Conor is gonna lift and slam him.
The fact you didn't know about 2 of the biggest robberies in British boxing history should probably stop you from speaking on something you haven't got a clue about. The Stewart bout could of gone either way but it was a 4 rounder on short notice. Should of got the verdict over Armah too but closer than the Earl fight. Vanzie was beating Romanov who caught him with a brutal straight right, another fighter who could of been a world champ if managed right.
Anyway why do you Hatton nutthuggers think he beat who was that great anyway? He beat a past it Tyszu with a shoulder injury and that's it pretty much. 'Viscious Maussa' couldn't even hit the speedball twice in a row FFS, Urango was coming off a gift decision against some bang average Aussie, Collazo was banged out by some nobody and really deserved to beat Hatton anyway if Rickies Mam and Dad weren't 2 of the judges.
I would never deny that Hatton fought some dross opposition - especially during his WBU reign but to suggest he ducked/avoided Bobby Vanzie who apart from never competing at the same weight beat absolutely nobody of note is absurd.
If you think he's was a better fighter then that's fine but i'm struggling to see why you think he would even be in the equation.
I 'haven't got a clue'. From a guy who is seriously arguing that a domestic level journey man beats Hatton. Beautiful.
And I'm a 'Hatton nuthugger' because I think he'd beat the shit out of Vanzie.
I imagine he's related. This whole discussion is bizarre.
I'm unsure why you think the British Light Welterweight Champ vs British Lightweight isn't a very very good fight on paper?
It's pretty simple, Hatton was very carefully managed, anyone who was a threat was avoided. Mayweather wanted Hatton at his first fight at 140 and Hatton turned it down. Hatton turned down fights with:
Mayweather
Judah
Corley
Harris
Cotto
Vanzie
Witter
Oh he didn't even want any of Emaual Augustus either
Hatton avoided talented black fighters like the plague while hanging out with his racist mate Bernard Manning.
He even removed his mandatory position in order not to fight them. Before he eventually signed for the big money fight against an inactive Tyszu for career high money
He avoided talented black fighters, yet fought a prime Mayweather. Jesus f*cking christ. Ignore time.
I 'haven't got a clue'. From a guy who is seriously arguing that a domestic level journey man beats Hatton. Beautiful.
And I'm a 'Hatton nuthugger' because I think he'd beat the shit out of Vanzie.
Care to remind me of 'Vanzie got beat by Earl' in one of the biggest robberies in British boxing history again?
Hatton is domestic level himself, he wasn't very good. His defense was shit, his jab was poor, he wasn't very quick. He had good stamina, was good at wrestling and throwing a load of leather with some decent body punches. He cherry picked old men, featherweights and slow men coming off losses. He didn't dare get in against the best boxers bar Tyszu who has shot to shit himself. We saw him got put in his place when he stepped in with the best.
Plenty of boxers could of beat Hatton, he wasn't very good, sorry to break it to you.
Yes, for a huge cashout paycheck after rejecting the fight 5 times, according to his carpet selling dad. He knew if fought Judah/Vanzie/Witter/Corley he could have lost that paycheck and copped a beating, hence why he ran for the hills
And what happened when he fought Mayweather? Right
Ricky Hatton held onto that joke of a WBU belt for half his career. How the feck did they manage to sell him as a proper world champion? He didn't fight anyone near world level until Kostya Tszyu tbh.
He didn't fight anyone near world level until Kostya Tszyu tbh.Despite beating the only other guy to beat Kostya prior to fighting him?Ricky Hatton held onto that joke of a WBU belt for half his career. How the feck did they manage to sell him as a proper world champion?
Who was that again?Despite beating the only other guy to beat Kostya prior to fighting him?
Hatton wasn't the most skilled guy but he knew how to be effective with a limited skill set. He was underrated as far as ring IQ IMO he lost fights because he was outclassed. I do believe Tszyu was ripped off against him with the worst officiating imaginable but his tactics were usually decent for what skills he had. Great body puncher, high energy his problem was once he beat Tszyu he became a two fights a year fighter and his style and personal life didn't permit for that. He needed activity to keep him sharp and away from booze and pies.
Nate knew the cameras were rolling and is already hyping up his rubber match with Conor.
Are you Bobby Vanzie's dad or something? He sticks out like a sore thumb on that list of alleged ducked opponents.
Utterly bizarre.
Vince Phillips.
How are you classing wealthy? He's worth millions...I don't think he's struggling financially I think he's just a bit bitter still
Wealthy as in set for life.
When was he offered Judah? Also, it was Vivian Harris that turned down a Hatton fight. He wanted too much money and fought Maussa instead and got himself KO'd there. Cotto was never really on the table either. Corley wasn't really also. Witter, I'd agree he seemed to want nothing to do with and Mayweather was just trying to cherry pick him coming up in weight.
Hatton fought largely poor opposition until he got a good IBF ranking and went the mandatory route and won some decent eliminators and then got the Tszyu fight. Tszyu was old and had been often injured but was coming off a sensational win against Mitchell. After that Hatton was always gearing for the mega match with Floyd but he really wasn't ducking anything between 2005 and 2007. Maussa had a belt, Collazo had a belt, Castillo was a good name, Urango was solid too and his mandatory.
"Reports suggest the biggest bets on the fight were upwards of $1million, while one UK resident put £650,000 on a McGregor win"
Was that you @MaxiPaxi ?Ffs Skip is such a great WUM
Skip Baylee's is the biggest wum of all time.
I remember looking at Steve Farhood's score card in the ninth and thinking Conor was still in it. The official judges were a bit lopsided in their judging imo.
What the actual feck? Reads like a satirical piece.
He's said to be worth over $10million, I'm pretty sure he's comfortable for life on that in fairness...definitely someone I'd describe as wealthy.