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The Sir vs the Sheikh!
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Accuracy not an important part of professional journalism...? Interesting.
That was literally the point.
“ Sir Jim Ratcliffe and INEOS find it funny that Qatar can’t afford the outbid a private citizen. He doesn’t understand why they are even trying..”
Qatar Emir is broke ass poor!! He needs to contact the Elliot Group if he wants to avoid his electricity being cut off by the end of March deadline.
Typical Ken Barlow focusing on the writing
some of yous really need to reflect on the levels of bitterness and anger at sports journalists that your are expressing.
From what I read they say the Ratcliffe bid is understood to be 5bn. They say nothing about the amount of the Qatari bid - just that they’re very confident it’s the best bid but doubts remain about Glazers wanting to sell.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ed-takeover-battle-qataris-make-improved-bid/
Is this supposed to disprove what I said?
Keegan said their bid had gone in the other day and it hadn't.
They don't have a clue. It's the biggest story in sport at the moment and they all want a piece of it. Most of them are charlatans. Only footy journo I listen to is Ornstein tbh.
If you like financial talk
Who the feck is Eugene Wong?
Des Wongs lad
Keegan doesn’t know shit. Changes his story every week. So does Kaveh.
What’s really happening is: no one actually knows what’s happening. They’ve all had to sign NDAs therefore can’t come out and say what is going on.
I can’t believe people still haven’t grasped this.
So Sportico's big news of a bid which jumped by 1.5 billion was bullshit? shocker. Alas, good old unclecun**yface also proved wrong
Telegraph also saying the offers are expected to be around £5 billion.
I think saying they no feck all is an exaggeration. They have some sources which get it right, but they’ll also get it wrong depending on the level of access they have. Obviously you can’t take what they say as gospel and that’s why you have different tiers for journos. But they would hypothetically know more than me that’s for sure!
How are any of these sports journos supposed to be knowing the amount being bid when NDAs have been signed by all parties involved?
SJR was apparently £5.3bn so
I would assume this is slightly higher but not the £6bn reported my guess and it’s a pretty flimsy guess is that
SJR bid was £4.6bn + £680m debt =£5.28bn
SJ bid was £4.820bn + £680m debt
= £5.5bn
This is to clear debt and but 69.50% of shares.
Why would you assume that?
To be fair every journo from Romano to the BBC reported this bid, they was briefed the bid went in then later that night United revealed they had given an extension
I think they can brief what is happening just not the numbers involved.
Hence the obvious guesses of around 5b from everybody reporting it
Not been on this thread since yesterday - what happened with the new 9pm Friday deadline?
Have we bought Bellingham and Osimhen yet??
Have we bought Bellingham and Osimhen yet??
Exactly.
That’s the point, they’ve been proven utterly unreliable with regards to these bids.
I also don’t believe they were all briefed as you put it, as they all posted at different times, one journo jumped the gun and all the rest followed him throughout the evening.
Qatar and Ineos both submitted bids of around £5bn, which is thought to be well below the Glazers' asking price. There are also multiple offers of financing and minority investment, including from Elliott Management.
Nobody knows what will happen next, but the general assumption is that there will be a further round of bidding early next month.
Keegan has been right on the money reporting what the Qatari bidders want the public to know. He's been the lead PR arm of the Qatari bid.
And I don't mean that as a shot. Journos use sources and he clearly has a source with Qatar. I'm just saying to recognize it for what it is, and not some special ITK work from Keegan.
Same goes for every journo. I agree with you that people are too hard on journos. They can only report what they're told. And short of having some super secret source that is whistleblowing or leaking info against the wishes of their employer (which journos can't just manifest that someone with every party involved is willing to do), then they're just going to get the info that the parties want them to report. Take it all with a grain of salt because whoever gives the reporters info has an agenda of their own.
Do you guys expect Journalists to be the fecking an all knowing Oracle? Every single last one of them? Because that’s what it sounds like.
Source A: Gets info Tells Journo
Journo: writes piece and publishes ir
Source A: in the meantime between the journo publishing it got info that contradicts their original piece of info
Journo now looks stupid.
“unreliable” isn’t exactly fair when an all manner of situations could have occurred.
The CAF has this weird obsession with journalists being right about everything and always producing 110% facts. But at the same time won’t believe it even if it’s right in front of them. Yet if it is bad news they’ll believe it no questions asked. It’s fascinating. Keegan has gone from the oracle at the beginning of this thread to an unbelievable doughnut . (Understandably this is a complex situation so I’ll give some leeway)
He’s never wrong
Written like a true modern journalist!
The same as SJRs bud + 1p
Going to be a long week
You may be right. It's easy to say without being in that position. I was saying it a little tongue in cheek. It was more a comment on how insane these numbers are. That there are people that could give away 90%+ of their wealth and still be a literal BILLIONAIRE.
Fergie had it right about you lot tbf.
He’s not wrong. Elliott are predators, they look for vulnerable owners/companies and take advantage of it. They’ll have something written in that if they default on X, Y, Z or don’t meet certain terms then they receive certain perks/shares etc. Milan almost went to the wall
Whilst im one of the worst offenders, we need to stop following this tweet by tweet. Look at Musk's twitter deal, that was off for weeks and then suddenly there was an announcement the deal was done.
I was thinking - do the Glazers actually care whether one bidder is paying off the debt, and the other isn’t? The debt is on the club and doesn’t affect them.
Really wants some publicity
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