Club Sale | It’s done!
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But Regulus and two other names told me that financing is easy.
This tweet is Qatari propaganda. Anything that doesn't paint Jim's bid as perfect is Qatari propaganda apparently
I dunno. Buy a clutch of big name players and I think a lot of people will be placated.
Glodman Sachs, vomiting emoji.
What do the words “practically speaking” mean to you? City are “slated” because their entire existence as they are today is dependent on private wealth. That is not the case with United.
Where have you heard Jassim make a public statement? Sources close to either side are as good as you're going to get.
You haven't seen their business plan, so it's odd that you're already jumping to the worst conclusions.
Both of which aren’t holy for a Jew.
Yes, but a lot of people will be satisfied with a bunch of new expensive players. Will they follow through on the community promises?
This also applies to Ratcliffe as well
Right here, they each issued a public statement, jassim's said it would be debt free, investment in infrastructure and the teams
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ster-united-takeover-qatar-statement-26270897
fair to say NOBODY will know the figure bid despite outlets stating they know what the figure is “exclusively”
Ya. Another posted pointed out that I needed to get the Torah in. So Torah it is.
Sure Morals and belief, makes me chuckle.
I am 100% certain that 99% of those are internet wannabe woke who will continue to support this club despite it’s owned by what they call a “murderous regime”. It’s very very easy to say all the right things (music to people ears) but doing something to back your beliefs takes a spine.
You already hear this nonsense about oh “I can continue to support the club as I did with Glazers but still opposed them”. This is a stupid argument, Glazers were leeches not “murderers or those who don’t care about human rights”. You can’t throw this stupid line in your defence.
Yeah sounds right!
All we can really go on is what each bidder is laying out, and the Qatar bid is absolutely miles ahead in every way.
Well they can make a lot of money on revamping and building in the community. I'm not sure where they player stuff has come from to be honest, we can only spend what we're allowed to spend and they haven't said they're going to raid PSG for Mbappe or anything like that. In fact if you look at PSG's strategy in recent years, outside of signing Messi, they're hired Leonardo as DOF and tried to build a squad instead of going wild. Leonardo has been shit but they have turned down players like Pogba.
At this point Ratcliffe is just Elliot with a British accent and a Chelsea season ticket.
This one is particularly easy to back one's beliefs... just don't turn on the TV, don't go to Old Trafford, don't go to the website.
A large part of the local fanbase walked away when the glazers took over and formed a new club. So there’s a precedent for it happening. If people feel they can’t support a club owned by a certain individual/company/state etc and decide to walk away I think that deserves respect.
Your logic isn't right. You really think we haven't spent enough over the last decade to win a title?
Get Qatar in, spend everything they've got. But keep spending it on the wrong players as we have been doing and we still won't win a Prem League.
We're right up there with City on spend over the last decade. We've spent more than Liverpool. We've spent more than Arsenal, this seasons possible champions.
Amazed anyone can still think we haven't thrown enough money at it already.
Current spend is enough. The way its spent is the problem. We don't need Qatar to spend the money in a more intelligent fashion.
Absolutely but I am 100% sure those pretending to have more morals than others won’t turn off the TV or stop supporting the club. They want to be seen as people who care as it gives a nice feeling. Hypocrisy, nothing else.
The other owners do seem very cool with pissing away money on sporting ventures though. They are in F1, cycling, rugby, sailing, football, and they spunked anything in the region of 30-50m to get Kipchoge to run under 2 hrs.
Nothing in their sporting history suggets Ratcliffe or the other 2 minority owners are interested in taking dividends out of their sporting ventures.
One can only assume they see them as fun ventures and treat them like sound Real Estate investments.
10000000%, absolutely and bow down to those people. It takes a spine to do what’s right. I am referring to our internet wannabe sensations on this forum. Do what those people did, don’t support the club, you will have everyone’s respect.
I'd imagine there's a few figures behind the scenes at the club who are squeamish at the thought of Qatari ownership and would prefer Ratcliffe to be the new owner. Who knows if they'll influence the Glazers' decision though.
Eh?
Firstly, we overpay because we're Manchester United, we get fleeced at every turn, we also wait until we're desperate before investing meaning we need to overpay. It's not just about the money spent, it's when it's spent, we finished 2nd in 17/18 and rather than push on and try and compete with city we bought Fred and that was it. Not to mention city had a very strong, young side when Fergie retired, the spine of which carried them for the next 5-6 years with aguero, Silva, kompany. We had a team basically needing replacements in every area after years of no value in the market. Look at January, we went for weghorst, there is not a single other top 6 side that would be loaning a striker playing in Turkey, when our main striker had left on a free and our main striker was made of biscuits. This is what people mean about lack of investment. Look at moyes, he inherited a team that needed replacements in all areas and got one signing in the summer, then another in January
In the same way that Richard Hillman from Coronation Street was Norman Bates with a briefcase?
Again, with the current spend, we made losses in the last financial periods.
And we still need a striker that'll cost 100m, two good midfielders, etc., you hopefully get the picture.
This does not include debt repayment or investing into a new stadium.
It is not sustainable outside of the red tinted glasses dimension
I recognise that we have spend enough on transfers but just badly. But this was despite declining revenues growth.
The problem with this? It came at a cost of everything else. Woodward shifted resources from elsewhere into the transfer budget --- instead of infrastructure upgrades, and/or the club is well known at paying the non-playing staff poorly etc.
City could do all of the above. We could only gamble/afford to do one big priority.
We’ve predicted profits of between 100-110m for this year mind.
That’s whilst spending big and having no CL football.
United absolutely do not need a bottomless pit to be super competetive and invest in infrastructure, we should probably stop pissing loads of money on shite managers & player though.
Better purchases, a better manager means less wasted money, which in turn means more money for winning shit and more CL money.
Have we? Where is that?
Hm, fair enough although CL is like half of that and we've had a crazy amount of home fixtures.
I am not sure what our reporting year is (I imagine it's December since it's US-listed) but having 100m free is not enough - we need 200m just to catch up to City who have two strikers (one on the bench) better than anything we have.
Woodward shifted resources because we were so poor in the manager and transfer market, will spunked away a feck tonne of money which should’ve been put to better use elsewhere.
The club has spent an awful lot on transfers and wages, it exceeds most clubs like you stated.
But maybe the training and medical facilities are not good enough, Old Trafford obviously needs attention that the current owners cannot finance.
But maybe the main reason the club has failed was Ed Woodword, an accountant and investment banker installed as chief executive to generate income no matter what the outcome on the pitch.
He is gone luckily, so carry on with the Glazers and we will be fine?
Qatar would build/repair/upgrade and that is maybe what is needed to push for the title again.
This is from September saying 115m loss, I can't imagine we've improved so significantly this year with no champions league football
https://theathletic.com/3618611/2022/09/22/manchester-united-financial-results/
Actually I saw another article that does back up what he said that they expect 100m-110m next year, though its after 3 years of consecutive losses
https://news.sky.com/story/losses-a...nited-but-profit-predicted-next-year-12703298
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