Greenwashing?
Club Sale | It’s done!
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I really don’t see INEOS paying £6bn, wiping the debt, and building new facilities including stadium and training ground from their own pockets. If they do then great. But I don’t see it. Personally I don’t buy into the PR narrative that he’s been towing throughout this. He talks a good game about community and being a local lad but he’s just another businessman at the end of the day, in it for his own end.
Always so aggressive
. And who said they preferred Qatari oil money? Try reading my post again.The sports media aren't exactly the most in-the-weeds when it comes to finances. INEOS could make it more known via their PR, but I guess they either don't think that "the debt won't be on the club, but on the holding company" will play that well with the fans, or they will still place some portion of debt on the club (after re-financing) and in that case the less said the better (from their pov).
But it's kinda moot if Qatar are going to bid GBP 6 billy.
Then why has literally nobody else reported/picked up on it.
INEOS supposedly has a horrible pollution record
Could still be talking. I think it was about now yesterday that the news about the Qatar group still being in talks broke.
Well of course but there have been tonnes of actual financial experts etc who have discussed the topic. Not to mention why wouldn't INEOS themselves push it as positive PR for them.
Mbappe on the left 
I'm not sure where we come in.
Blinded by the almighty oil/gas dollar. Nobody wants to know because they think Qatar will buy us the moon.
Could they not have just agreed to refinance? That seems fairly plausible.
There is no helping some people.I really don’t see INEOS paying £6bn, wiping the debt, and building new facilities including stadium and training ground from their own pockets. If they do then great. But I don’t see it. Personally I don’t buy into the PR narrative that he’s been towing throughout this. He talks a good game about community and being a local lad but he’s just another businessman at the end of the day, in it for his own end.
Always so aggressive
He’s just a poster on here. Why present this as an authority?
Polluting Manchester’s own canal For starters
The difference is the ‘new debt’ to refinance the existing debt will be born by INEOS not United. The club will effectively be debt free.
And before you go down a well trodden path INEOS can actually benefit from the extra debt in a taxation sense, and it has also been suggested they could convert the debt to equity in the club and sell shares to fans. That would be a win win.
The relevant portions of the documents are literally in the tweets...
Don’t worry, your expertise has completely alleviated all my concerns.
Its Jamie Jackson I know dont hate me
Not sure it’s that simple?
Because he has presented the evidence to back up what he is saying. Go and read the loan documents yourself. It’s not made up or somebody’s opinion but actual financial agreement documents between the Glazers and the banks.
Also he is a corporate lawyer and he’s experience in this field ( mergers and ) so he knows what he’s talking about.
Of course it could be lower. Jamie is just taking the extreme and using them for clicks
Seems like we can put to bed the possibility of minority investment, the
Glazers are 100% invested in a full sale
Glazers are 100% invested in a full sale
It’s not exactly what he said on air, and the tweet implies more than he meant.
Higher or lower?
Get me Barrymore on line one
Get me Barrymore on line one
Exactly, if it was that simple for anyone to go read the contracts and come to that conclusion then this would be well known you'd think.
For sure. You don’t do all that they’ve done the past two days so publicly if you aren’t selling.
First signs of cold feet?
Hopefully this won't happen, it'd be a mess
By who?
You’d have to know what you are looking at, which is why it help that he has highlighted them.
Hopefully this won't happen, it'd be a mess
That sounds fecking awful. What a circus we would become.
I'm sure there are people/financial experts in the mainstream media that would be more than capable of doing this.
Hopefully this won't happen, it'd be a mess
Oh feck me
Come on peeps, defend this shite.
The Qataris if they are thinking of lowering their offer, especially as they have reportedly been told to raise it.
Let's hope the Qataris are serious about not overpaying, and that Ratcliffe will do that instead...sadly I don't see too many other ways of us avoiding being state owned.
Somehow I think this might just be made up.
Hopefully this won't happen, it'd be a mess
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