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TheReligion said:
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Apple is a PLC, they have shareholders. The CEO's job is to increase the value of the stock for said shareholders with smart business decisions.

1. It makes no sense for the biggest company in the world to buy a football team when they have zero experience of acquiring, managing, running sports teams, and even less experience in transfers.
2. They're a tech company, if they acquire anything, they acquire smaller tech companies who have done solid R&D into products they're looking to build upon.
3. They don't need the exposure. Apple don't even advertise through anyone else but themselves, that's how big they are. At a push they would maybe be open to buy stadium naming rights but it's not worth it for them.
4. The iPhone costs around £1k, how many United fans can afford it? How quickly would you drop the iPhone if you were a Liverpool fan or any other fan for that matter? You know what really kills a stock? Poor sales, missed earnings, poor revenue growth, bad direction. All of this happens if more than half the world don't buy an expensive phone that's tethered to the United name and brand.
5. What the feck are Apple geuinely going to do with Manchester United? Like seriously? What's in it for them?6
6. Apple are a company, they have budgets, and well planned budgets at that, they don't just have £10b doing nothing somewhere.
7. R&D is expensive and so is innovation.
8. Shareholders will lose their shit if Apple take on a liability such as Manchester United.
 
crossy1686 said:
Of course they could, they just have £10b sitting in a cash account, waiting for Tim Cook to whip out his contactless Apple Pay in the OT corporate suite to get the deal done...

If Apple bought Liverpool, how fast are you dropping your £1000 iPhone next time the contract is up? There might be a lot of United fans but how many can afford an iPhone? How many anti-United fans are there? You know what really tanks stocks? Poor sales data, missing earnings, poor growth metrics. All these things are true if Apple buy United.

Some of you live in a fantasy world.
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fecking hell man.

Most iphone or andriod owners the World over don’t give a monkies toss about Manchester United, Liverpool or football for that matter. Most of the others that do, will still keep using the phone they most prefer.

Talk about overstating the influence :lol:
 
crossy1686 said:
Apple is a PLC, they have shareholders. The CEO's job is to increase the value of the stock for said shareholders with smart business decisions.

1. It makes no sense for the biggest company in the world to buy a football team when they have zero experience of acquiring, managing, running sports teams, and even less experience in transfers.
2. They're a tech company, if they acquire anything, they acquire smaller tech companies who have done solid R&D into products they're looking to build upon.
3. They don't need the exposure. Apple don't even advertise through anyone else but themselves, that's how big they are. At a push they would maybe be open to buy stadium naming rights but it's not worth it for them.
4. The iPhone costs around £1k, how many United fans can afford it? How quickly would you drop the iPhone if you were a Liverpool fan or any other fan for that matter? You know what really kills a stock? Poor sales, missed earnings, poor revenue growth, bad direction. All of this happens if more than half the world don't buy an expensive phone that's tethered to the United name and brand.
5. What the feck are Apple geuinely going to do with Manchester United? Like seriously? What's in it for them?
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First 3 points are valid, the other 2 not so much.
 
crossy1686 said:
5. What the feck are Apple geuinely going to do with Manchester United? Like seriously? What's in it for them?6
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For any company that creates content, and can acquire a company that will provide them with millions of subscribers and content, there is huge value in that.*
If that company can actually pay for itself also, well feck me it’s interesting.


* During the 2018/19 season, our games generated a cumulative audience reach of over 3.5 billion viewers, according to the Futures Data, across 200 territories. On a per game basis, our 53 games attracted an average cumulative audience reach of 68 million.

The current cost of appletv+ is 7 quid /month.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
For any company that creates content, and can acquire a company that will provide them with millions of subscribers and content, there is huge value in that.*
If that company can actually pay for itself also, well feck me it’s interesting.


* During the 2018/19 season, our games generated a cumulative audience reach of over 3.5 billion viewers, according to the Futures Data, across 200 territories. On a per game basis, our 53 games attracted an average cumulative audience reach of 68 million.

The current cost of appletv+ is 7 quid /month.
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1.2 billion people own an iPhone, they're not going to potentially alienate some of their userbase by buying a sports team. Our games are mostly watched by people who want us to lose, not everyone is a United fan.

Apple are already in everyone's pockets, laptops, TV's. They're tracking everything as it is. There's no value in them buying Manchester United to see that some bloke in India watched the game but can't afford the phone anyway.
 
MDFC Manager said:
Put us on Apple TV apparently :confused: We don't even have our own TV rights to do that
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Can you imagine their meetings at Apple HQ?

Agenda

1. new iPhone
2. new Mac
3. new iPad
4. Apple Car progress
5. Apple VR progress - scheduled release date and beta testing
6. Staff layoffs
7. Beats improvements
8. France kicking off about USBC vs lightning
9. We're being sued again
10. Any other business
Someone from Manchester United called (John?), said United need a new streeker or something? Also the stadium needs painting. Expressed grattitude for the free iPhone's and Apple TV subscriptions.
 
crossy1686 said:
Of course they could, they just have £10b sitting in a cash account, waiting for Tim Cook to whip out his contactless Apple Pay in the OT corporate suite to get the deal done...

If Apple bought Liverpool, how fast are you dropping your £1000 iPhone next time the contract is up? There might be a lot of United fans but how many can afford an iPhone? How many anti-United fans are there? You know what really tanks stocks? Poor sales data, missing earnings, poor growth metrics. All these things are true if Apple buy United.

Some of you live in a fantasy world.
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They have nearly $50bn in cash reserves.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Once again overstating how many of those 1.2bn would actually give any fecks about Manchester United. It’s absolutely minimal, like Spotify and Barcelona, no-one fecking cares man.
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:lol: If Apple really, really, really wanted that data why not just buy Facebook? Facebook's stock is down 90% in the last 3 years. Buying United is mornonic and will cost multiple people their jobs.
 
Acquire Me said:
I can see it happen tbh.
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We are not in a position to rule it out.

I see the pros from Apple’s POV — but there are also big cons.

If Apple bought Liverpool, how many of us would go “I am never buying an iPhone again. Why would I want to sponsor Liverpool?” That is the downside.

The upside is of course in Apple’s ambition on the broadcasting rights. If you get exclusive rights to all United — and expand that with more documentaries, more behind the scene things, more PCs, pre-season games — how many fans would get Apples TV rights? Same with Amazon, Netflix and so forth. The value isn’t massive, but it’s there. We are said to have a global fan base of 40m people.

The back ground is of course that of today’s youths — nobody is watching linear TV anymore. There is no draw that gets you viewership, except the biggest TV series, some reality shows etc. Besides live sport.

Lastly, won’t the PL stop an owner with broadcasting interests?
This has become a bit of an urban legend, which isn’t odd since it went down a long time ago.

The thing that we know is that at a time Manchester United was tremendously strong in British football and Sky/Murdoch was tremendously strong on the cable TV side — one minister said that they would ‘very completely and extremely searchingly’ examine any transaction in which Murdoch bought United.

At this point, we aren’t by far the most powerful club and the buyer would be extremely far from having a monopoly on the monopolistic cable TV market.
 
crossy1686 said:
Can you imagine their meetings at Apple HQ?

Agenda

1. new iPhone
2. new Mac
3. new iPad
4. Apple Car progress
5. Apple VR progress - scheduled release date and beta testing
6. Staff layoffs
7. Beats improvements
8. France kicking off about USBC vs lightning
9. We're being sued again
10. Any other business
Someone from Manchester United called (John?), said United need a new streeker or something? Also the stadium needs painting. Expressed grattitude for the free iPhone's and Apple TV subscriptions.
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Oh yeah, sounds absolute plausible as to how the would run the business :lol:

Just like INEOS ask the same questions about Nice at meetings talking about the chemical business. fecking hell man.

Apple likely won’t be even interested mind, you’re right there, but if they diversify at any point and acquire a new business, it’ll be run completely separately of apple and apple HQ.
 
crossy1686 said:
Can you imagine their meetings at Apple HQ?

Agenda

1. new iPhone
2. new Mac
3. new iPad
4. Apple Car progress
5. Apple VR progress - scheduled release date and beta testing
6. Staff layoffs
7. Beats improvements
8. France kicking off about USBC vs lightning
9. We're being sued again
10. Any other business
Someone from Manchester United called (John?), said United need a new streeker or something? Also the stadium needs painting. Expressed grattitude for the free iPhone's and Apple TV subscriptions.
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That would be the multi-million dollar HQ they had to force employees to come back to.

I say they should have bought something else with that money that actually generated money, like a football stadium with a huge capacity or the business that owns it ;)
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Oh yeah, sounds absolute plausible as to how the would run the business :lol:

Just like INEOS ask the same questions about Nice at meetings talking about the chemical business. fecking hell man.

Apple likely won’t be even interested mind, you’re right there, but if they diversify at any point and acquire a new business, it’ll be run completely separately of apple and apple HQ.
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Apple TV isn't even profitable anyway, they're only doing it to feck around with Netflix and the other streaming services. Apple can outlast them all if they hold on but it's going to cost them. They don't need United to win that war.
 
crossy1686 said:
Apple TV isn't even profitable anyway, they're only doing it to feck around with Netflix and the other streaming services. Apple can outlast them all if they hold on but it's going to cost them. They don't need United to win that war.
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I know it won't happen but since I don't engage in transfer muppetry, speculation on our next owners is the only chance for me to dream.
 
Messier1994 said:
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If Apple bought Liverpool, how many of us would go “I am never buying an iPhone again. Why would I want to sponsor Liverpool?” That is the downside.
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Of the 1.2bn iphone owners, not many.

I certainly wouldn’t, and I very much doubt many Madrid fans left Spotify this year either.

This might be news to you, but the majority of people in the World don’t give a monkies feck about United nor Liverpool man :lol:
 
sullydnl said:
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Excuse my ignorance but what private Saudi companies are there that could afford us? I know Saudi media had some interest in Chelsea but I just assumed they were connected with the Saudi government.
 
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