Don't think this is the case. Took over in August 2019:
Not that I think Nice has much bearing on what they'd do here, but they've basically been treading water.
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Not that I think Nice has much bearing on what they'd do here, but they've basically been treading water.
OK, so the bottom line is you want the big transfer money.
"No NEW debt.."
"WANT to invest.."
"MAJORITY ownership.."
Have I just become uber-sensitive to politico-speak and misdirection?
"WANT to invest.."
"MAJORITY ownership.."
Have I just become uber-sensitive to politico-speak and misdirection?
BBC article was more like “it’s expected” and then went on to confirm 2 bids made. Any bid yesterday’s surely would have leaked by now dont you think?
It’s not vital at this point. It can come in the future, and would likely be part of the ‘make United the greatest team in the world’ but of the statement - WC stadium and training facilities leading the way like we used to.
Media pushed Poch, fans pushed ETH. As usual, we know more. Qatar is the one.
No billionaire like INEOS is paying what Joe Bloggs pays man
If United currently pay 18m /year, it’s likely we have 3-4%. I’d expect INEOS to get much better than that but 18m a year is truly peanuts for them.
They are not British
Interesting, but what does putting the Manchester back in Manchester United mean? Sounds like Tory PR for doing racist motives.
The glaring omission in the ineos statement is the stadium.
Even if you are comfortable with a goldman sachs funded debt purchase of the club, where is the investment in the stadium coming from.
To compete, we need two things - to be debt free as a club and to have the right training facilities and modern stadium.
There are no good people bidding for us, this is not a good v evil situation, its a bunch of rich sociopaths, every one of which would bulldoze your home with you in it if it benefitted them, so the only thing we can do as fans is want the best outcome for the club.
That, right now, would not seem to be Ineos.
Even if you are comfortable with a goldman sachs funded debt purchase of the club, where is the investment in the stadium coming from.
To compete, we need two things - to be debt free as a club and to have the right training facilities and modern stadium.
There are no good people bidding for us, this is not a good v evil situation, its a bunch of rich sociopaths, every one of which would bulldoze your home with you in it if it benefitted them, so the only thing we can do as fans is want the best outcome for the club.
That, right now, would not seem to be Ineos.
It explicitly states their intentions of making United the best team in the world and winning the CL. They obviously can't achieve either without significant investment
No, proper investment.
Well then say it? It’s a PR disaster if they don’t plan on doing it. The Qatar bid is miles ahead in terms of getting support.
Doesn't say much about you that mate. At least you're honest though.
I think an INEOS takeover would be less controversial and more straightforward.
Does anyone really think that the Qataris will be allowed walk in and buy Manchester United without major opposition and resistance? It's just not going to happen. The other PL clubs won't want it and will lobby the PL to stop it happening. And between the obvious links to the Qatar state and the PSG ownership issue, they will have plenty of ammunition.
Just because they allowed the Saudi deal to get through doesn't mean they won't block this. They are more than capable of being hypocrites.
Qatar may get their wish in the end but I'm certain it won't be plain sailing.
Does anyone really think that the Qataris will be allowed walk in and buy Manchester United without major opposition and resistance? It's just not going to happen. The other PL clubs won't want it and will lobby the PL to stop it happening. And between the obvious links to the Qatar state and the PSG ownership issue, they will have plenty of ammunition.
Just because they allowed the Saudi deal to get through doesn't mean they won't block this. They are more than capable of being hypocrites.
Qatar may get their wish in the end but I'm certain it won't be plain sailing.
Sir Jim's bid is for Majority ownership but not 100%>
He wants to Keep the Glazers around.
feck that. feck off.
He wants to Keep the Glazers around.
feck that. feck off.
How much have The Athletic reported on SJRs greenwashing? The fact he doesn't pay taxes in the UK? INEOS owning 2 other European teams and how how would navigate around that?
Group of consortium would be better if SJR cant match the bid or doesn’t see it feasible.
Bit off topic but my god this Kaveh fella is rough to listen to.
Speaks. With. So. Many. Pauses.
Speaks. With. So. Many. Pauses.
I’m calm, and in no way seduced by promises of untold riches.
Maybe check your information next time - mindlessly parroting the narrative is how we end up with fake news and faux outrage.
Fair enough if this helps then.
Don't think this is the case. Took over in August 2019:
Not that I think Nice has much bearing on what they'd do here, but they've basically been treading water.
So
17/18: 8th
18/19: 7th
Which is what I said. Ahhh sorry, 6th since takeover.
Either way, there’s no “farce to be seen on that graph”.
Shows he lives in the real world.
The Glazers don't own 100%.
Yeah he looks a bit like a sloth too!
Will be interesting to see fans at the game tomorrow and their protests again Jassime's offer.
Yeah for sure you sound calm.
Agree with you there mate. Interesting to see Becks take a bit of a spotlight role at the World Cup on behalf of Qatar. I guess the guy with the golden smile could well end up being in the directors box in a few weeks time.
Nice have stagnated and underwhelmed since Ineos took over which is strange when you consider that Nice already had recent infrastrutures and that the only short term focus was on the Football side which was decent.
And there is nothing daring about appointing Digard as an interim manager, it would have been impressive if they appointed him last summer since he was doing a good job with their reserve, as for Ghisolfi it's even less daring since we are talking about the man that was doing the same job for Lens who have less money and have been better since their promotion.
And the vast majority on here want this shower to be our owners.
What's the actual chances of SJR actually successfully buying the club? Not liking the fact that under him we'd still have big debt
If he was, shouldn’t they have emphasised that instead of keeping it in the dark?
He sounds worse the more you read about him
I guess there is nothing not to love but at the same time not much to love. It's saying something without actually saying anything that is relevant as if it was written by a politician. It's conveniently missing basically all the things that we want to get rid of the Glazers for. Stadium, debt, other infrastructure etc.
Isn’t that just the same as the glazers? They don’t have 100%?
This read like a "make United great again". Sounds kinda nice but I still have no idea how they are going to invest in the club. For starter a revamped stadium would be nice, don't you think?
Also, majority ownership? What does it mean... He's going to be co-owner with someone?
No bank gives debt with interest rates lower than the interest rates set by the central bank. Goldman and JPMorgan won’t give debt with interest lower than 4.75% (the current rate set by the Fed). The interest rates are gonna increase to 5-5.5% this year. So expect a 6% or so the lowest anyone can take.No billionaire like INEOS is paying what Joe Bloggs pays man
If United currently pay 18m /year, it’s likely we have 3-4%. I’d expect INEOS to get much better than that but 18m a year is truly peanuts for them.
You know this is going to happen.
Hey we are using American banks to allow a Chelsea season ticket holder born in london to buy United so that we can bring “Manchester back into Manchester United”
What the hell that catchphrase even mean? Its like Make America great again catchphrase of Donald Trump
Bit of a daft comment. Do your research mate.
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