It was Valencia but point taken. We really scraped the barrel that summer and barely spent any money trying to revamp the team or improving our central midfield.
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It was Valencia but point taken. We really scraped the barrel that summer and barely spent any money trying to revamp the team or improving our central midfield.
I hope that happens, peacefully and without detriment to the performance on the pitch. We need to be better than others before us
Hopefully just as glorified mascots. Last thing we need is the likes of Neville and co having any sort of significant sway at the club.
It’s a fair point. But you can’t argue we’re attempting to compete at a top level with a huge weight around our ankle.
Same with Liverpool.
Oh ffs, it wasn't ever completed?
Hopefully then we don't see money funnelled from us to ineos via intercompany loans if they do buy us.
Thats not the point mate. We should have replaced him with Aguero/Silva/Robben. Someone absolutely top class. We lost Tevez that same season too. Even if we had spent it on someone who didn't work out, it was still something we should have done. £80 million back then was an enormous sum of money, but the Glazers simply pocketed the funds like the shysters that they are.
Gary Neville future manaager of Man Utd with Phil as assistant
I'd rather Jim to be honest, but it doesn't look good does it? I think Qatar would regenerate the area, and with Old Trafford being right next to Salford quays/Media city there might be even bigger changes around the area.
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Not in any way to diminish a state's responsibility toward human rights, but we are an American-owned British club.
Our governments have been invading and bombing people in other countries, in the not too distant past.
What's Qatar's body count?
So, when are we signing Mbappe Bellingham and Kvicha?
Mbappe has ridiculous control there, he can get away with jogging half arsed knowing he's on a stupid salary and completely indispensible. They gave him stupid wages which was just a backwards decision, I want a proper wage structure at United where players know they need to be on their toes to earn their wage.
They bought Neymar, Messi, Mbappe as a front 3, on god knows how much wages and it wasn't a smart model, in fact even when Messi completed the trio there was a lot of fair opinion that it was not going to work and was just a FIFA team. Low and behold, it doesn't.
Messi does what he wants, Neymar works hard when he's on the pitch but comes with his own problems off it, Mbappe will threaten to leave every now and again and the managers are resigned to making it work because of the immense salaries these players are on.
Also their CEO threatened to kill or beat up a journalist after they lost a CL game, which just points further to what a stupid circus it is. Tuchel didnt leave on great terms, and Poch was sacked when I think he could have had more time, PSG look worse since he left.
They're just a shit club. They win a one horse league and underperform almost every season in the Champions League. They also sacked 2 very good managers who, if given time and control, would have likely sustained better or at least the same results than what happened after they left.
That was just a stipulation in RA’s conditions when selling Chelsea. It had nothing to do with the EPL. Burnley were purchased in a leveraged buyout last year.
My googling might just be falling short tbh, but wouldn't surprise me if it got put on the back burner. Don't think it's applicable to Ineos' bid either way, but still easy to get nervous about it.
Why are people saying look at PSG? haven't they domestically dominated ever since? yes they haven't done great in Europe, but that's on field issues.
How has Ratcliffe been doing at Nice? didn't he put his brother in charge
Should we talk about his cheating cycling team too?
How has Ratcliffe been doing at Nice? didn't he put his brother in charge
Should we talk about his cheating cycling team too?
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The name suggests they probably have the backing of some of the class of 92. I expect Becks to be involved in some capacity.
I think we’d have been in a miles better position had Woodward never been employed nor stayed in his position so long. Our spending and managerial recruitment has been so poor and that has hit our CL appearances and our bonuses for winning the big pots. That would’ve lead to us having to invest less in panic buys and spend more on the stadium renovations
The plc took dividends also, but a great manager and good recruitment made it sustainable.
But absolutely, with no debt saddled on the club, that gives us a much better platform to succeed on. We certainly don’t need to worry about competing financially with either of the two main bids so far.
I know exactly how PSG are, the question is how is that different to pretty much any other big club. That article says nothing, it's as pointless as it gets.
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Valencia was a good lad and a loyal servant of the club so I didn't want to disrespect his legacy by including him. He was a good buy, but he was never bought as a Ronaldo replacement, he was always more of a workhorse/Park type player than anything. Liverpool sold Coutinho and bought a solid core that won them the CL. Imagine if instead of Allison and VVD they bought Joe Hart and Dan Burn. Thats what the Glazers had us doIf the British or American state were involved, you'd have a point.
Obviously Beckham is the mastermind behind all of this.
There was no such thing in yesterday’s statement. Just that the takeover will be debt free (i.e., they won’t take a debt to buy the club).
Exactly … it’s Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in goal. It’s clueless rich people with shiny baubles. It’s Messi in a silly cloak. It’s Ten Hag undermined. I love the approach we had the other night vs Barca. So refreshing besides plastic PSG. Would be a tragedy to lose that just as ETH is getting going
All true, but you made it sound like we had a choice in Ronaldo staying or going.
If you would actually read the thread you’d see I have constantly said I don’t want Qatari owners, instead you’re taking one jokey post and running with it
I have been on caf for a long time and have seen some eccentric behaviour but you sir take the cake. Might be the first person I’ll be muting in like 7-8 years.
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I'm in total agreement. If we spent our money wiser we'd have something to show for it. It hasn't been lack of spending that's fecked us
Exactly
its pretty well documented he's from Oldham mate
How has Ratcliffe been doing at Nice? didn't he put his brother in charge
They’ve not tried to do a PSG and spunk billions for instant success, Nice aint the club for that. They require a more long term plan.
Instead they’ve finished 5th twice, have a great new DoF and manager in and are looking good for Europe again.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...anager-didier-digard-ligue-1-will-still-reims
People will somehow try painting that in a bad light mind, but I’d be much more worried if INEOS had come in and tried to match PSG financially.
Which to me is a giveaway that it’s really a front for QIA, no doubt funded by Qatar.
Lucky that management structure would have nothing to do with us and we’d have an owner who grew up watching Fergies United.
You'd hope that. I was just eluding to why I think PSG is a circus. I'm surprised I have to explain it.
There was a quote that when City bought Silva and Aguero, Fergie thought they would be too lightweight for the PL and thats why he hadn't made a move. That bald cnut that ran us before Gill fecked up the Robben deal when he transferred to Chelsea, then signed him after we were going to sign him.
I do not see how that can be done. Ineos would be the parent of Man United, and can do whatever the feck they want with Man United’s money. Being a private company, the transactions won’t even be on public record (unlike now where United is on stock exchange). For all we know, despite that the debt would be put in INEOS, they can use Man United’s money to pay that debt (I mean, they probably/hopefully won’t do so, but they can do so if they want).
If QIA isnt behind this then it would be worrisome actually because his private wealth according to forbes is just not enough
I got mates that are very close to the class of 92 particularly around the neville brothers. Let's say that the relationship between them and the Glazers is hardly ideal
isn't that exactly what people wanted?
A rich individual to clear the debt and let the club run on it's own legs? or is it bad because he's from Qatar.
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