How is that different from the UK? You cant even say you are english these days without the fear of being thrown in jail
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Sadly, this is just the n-th evidence of the level of the average fan/person. And the worst part is, there is exactly 50% of the population that is below average..
I still don’t think Ratcliffe is actually serious about buying the club unfortunately
Yep. The man’s a bluffer and I’m yet to be convinced otherwise.
If they're smart, they'll have seen what City did in the early days and understand that's how NOT to do it.
They'll jump straight to the phase of getting a proper CEO (for the football side) and a proper DOF in place. Arnold should keep his job but I can imagine them beefing up the football side.
Will they try and tempt Guardiola? He's clearly a man who loves a pound note and if the Qataris take over United they can give him a blank cheque.
Not saying that's what I hope will happen (ET is doing a brilliant job) but in the Qatar-UAE soft power struggle it would be a massive coup to persuade the most glamorous manager in the world to switch sides.
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That happens?
And even if he was serious, looks like the only thing going for him is that he's better in the 'morality' department compared to his competitors. Nothing at all to suggest he's any good at running a football club
What? So the English doesn't have these common and basic rights?
What does Guardiola have to do with Saudi Arabia?
I really don't like the idea of PSG being our sister club.
PSG aren't exactly a shining light either.
That poll on the United Stand was the drop.....
The worry is that perhaps even the Qataris bid won't be enough
What, actually thrown in jail? Just for saying you're English?
You completely missed the context, but cherrypick what you wish from what I said to suit your opinion.
Ole, Jose and van Gaal were all given bid budgets were they not? Are they still manager of Man United as we speak? No, because football is a result driven business. As I said, when ten Hag isn't winning the big trophies as the owners wish, he'll be sacked.
Would be more like our little bitch.
Would rather Qatar than musk.
I think the conviction that Ratcliffe isn't serious stems cognitive dissonance of wanting oil money
everything points to him being serious at this point
but he won't outbid the Qatari's so relax lads
everything points to him being serious at this point
but he won't outbid the Qatari's so relax lads
A depressing state of affairs.
Hopefully someone who isn't a massive cnut emerges and gives the Glazers enough money for them to go away.
When super exclusive brands is for sale normal valuation flies out of the window.
Clubs like Manchester United, Dallas Cowboys, LA Lakers (for example) operate in the same stratosphere as Rolex and Ferrari and those brands can't be valued from a normal economical formula. How do you value prestige and world wide recognition? The second part is that these brands is nearly never is up for sale. Whenever it happens a bidding is the only solution because on face value you will have dozens of buyers. That's why a extremely successful businessman like Elon Musk is interested. He know value when he sees it.
I fully expect the price to be close to the sellers valuation.
The Glazers has already have public meetings with the investors from Qatar so I take that as a given that they're almost in agreement regarding all the variable factors in the sale process. A new owner don't primary buy United to earn money short term, probably not even middle term. Run the business in a successful way for 20-30 year and a investment in Man United is probably more successfull from an economicak standpoint then invest in the stock market. (you dont have to look any further then our current owners economical success with United) Not to mention all the fun and exitmenets following owning a succefull forball club.
Clubs like Manchester United, Dallas Cowboys, LA Lakers (for example) operate in the same stratosphere as Rolex and Ferrari and those brands can't be valued from a normal economical formula. How do you value prestige and world wide recognition? The second part is that these brands is nearly never is up for sale. Whenever it happens a bidding is the only solution because on face value you will have dozens of buyers. That's why a extremely successful businessman like Elon Musk is interested. He know value when he sees it.
I fully expect the price to be close to the sellers valuation.
The Glazers has already have public meetings with the investors from Qatar so I take that as a given that they're almost in agreement regarding all the variable factors in the sale process. A new owner don't primary buy United to earn money short term, probably not even middle term. Run the business in a successful way for 20-30 year and a investment in Man United is probably more successfull from an economicak standpoint then invest in the stock market. (you dont have to look any further then our current owners economical success with United) Not to mention all the fun and exitmenets following owning a succefull forball club.
Could have been worse, they could have favored Musk.
Completely disagree. There biggest issue has been recruitment and not buying a balanced squad that is capable of being coached
I doubt they'd do anything without consulting each other.
He means you’re not allowed to be racist anymore.
No way he’s going to match any offer coming from Qatar.
There would be fecking riots.
He might not outbid them but if the offers are in the same region he’s by far the safest and easiest option of the two if they want a smooth sale process due to the two club issue with UEFA. Yea I know Ratcliffe owns Nice but we won’t be in the same competition next year.
Rather have Musk than some homophobic misogynists.
Rather have someone else than some borderline insane, real life comic book villian though.
Had the VHS. What a Christmas that was. New Sony TV, Dreamcast and VHS player with Ghostbusters 1 & 2, Man Utd BTPL and for some reason, Fantazia.
Rather have someone else than some borderline insane, real life comic book villian though.
Had the VHS. What a Christmas that was. New Sony TV, Dreamcast and VHS player with Ghostbusters 1 & 2, Man Utd BTPL and for some reason, Fantazia.
Agreed, he’s serious alright he just cannot afford us
That is a huge gripe for me as well. The more you think about it, the worse it sounds
Its a stewart lee comedic bit where he gets in a taxi and the taxi driver says if you say you're English you'll be thrown in jail, and stew gradually wears the guy down til he admits that that won't happen
it's really bringing out the best in United fans, this.$4.5b will be the sale price, then you've got an additional $1b to wipe the debt, then at least $1b on the infrastructure over the next couple of years. That's excluding transfers of course.
What is saying that that is an issue though? What exactly is wrong with their squad? They actually have a very good midfield, very good defenders, and world class attackers. Neymar, Mbappe and Messi actually mesh together quite well, Neymar never shirks his defensive work, etc. Other teams also have world class squads though. And they just have better managers. The best managers don't want to go to PSG as they are stuck in a league that isn't competitive. A manager is more important than any player, so of course they even with their players will come up short against the best coached sides.
The one time they had an excellent coach, they almost won the CL. And let's be real, you need luck on your side to win that. PSG are an impossible project because it's easy to win domestically, and you need luck to win in Europe. It's why City with Pep still haven't won the CL. What is the difference between City and PSG the past decade? CL runners up once each, bunch of domestic trophies. And City have had Pep, while PSG had nobody close to him as manager. So what makes City better run than PSG other than simply being in a better league which has a bigger draw for managers?
See it as they'll be our feeder club.
Personally while i find the abuses of thsse states awful, closer cultural ties is more likely to improve things than turning them into pariah states. Look at the difference in what women can do in Saudi Arabia compared to ten years ago. Remember there are people alive in Britain today who lived through a time when homosexuality was illegal here, where we forced chemical castration onto homosexuals. The change isn't going to be instantaneous but with these countries seeing the writing on the wall re
il, they need tourism and they might gradually adopt western values. But again when we were a predominantly religious country (in living memory) we weren't all that great ourselves, but that doesn't disappear in a few years, it takes a couple of generations
il, they need tourism and they might gradually adopt western values. But again when we were a predominantly religious country (in living memory) we weren't all that great ourselves, but that doesn't disappear in a few years, it takes a couple of generationsLike who? Massive cnuts are the only people who want to own football teams. Smart people without an ulterior motive don't buy vanity projects.
Not unless he's offering partial, which could be super grim and allow him to buy the Glazers out under the current ownership modal and keep taking a dividend and not touch the debt.
The Glazers will just accept the biggest offer (taking into account any share they would retain) which is likely to the the Qataris, you would think rather than, say, Ratcliffe.
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