Yes. But it will depend on the objectives of the various parties. If financial objectives are their top priority, do you think they will spend lavishly? They are most likely to cut costs first.
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Yes. But it will depend on the objectives of the various parties. If financial objectives are their top priority, do you think they will spend lavishly? They are most likely to cut costs first.
It's like that in most stadiums in fairness, I can't even get signal in Deepdale or Ewood Park.
At an asking price of £6b we already know the greedy Glazers have asked for far too much, but I see the emir believes £4.5bn is a more realistic offer? If the Qatar bid were to be accepted, or whoever for that matter, then surely that would still leave us in a precarious situation of being stuck with an enormous debt.
A decade? Doubtful
It’s the stuff dreams are made of. Liverpool completely destroyed having gone to absolute shite. The manager looking clueless. No interest from anyone to buy them.What is happening this week
Man City being shown for the cheaters they are. Their team stumbling with players falling out.
Utd balling on the pitch and now about to acquire a war chest. Pinch me and wake me up Susan.
Can PSG become United's feeder club?
What debt would that be? The amount of debt we are in is pennies for the reported interested parties.
It’s the stuff dreams are made of. Liverpool completely destroyed having gone to absolute shite. The manager looking clueless. No interest from anyone to buy them.
Man City being shown for the cheaters they are. Their team stumbling with players falling out.
Utd balling on the pitch and now about to acquire a war chest. Pinch me and wake me up Susan.
This also applies to American or British billionaires, no?
I wouldn’t be surprised to see PSG binned off if the reported links are the same guys pulling the strings at PSG. PSG was their avenue of getting into the European game with a relatively big club. But once you acquire a bigger and better car, you normally sell off the older car or sell it on WeBuyAnyCar and then twerk down the drive singing “I sold my carrrr, to we buy any carrrrr, I sold my carrrr”
Why does this sound too good to be true?
Literally everything we'd want done as fans checked
Has anyone of any credibility backed this story up?
The best one can ask for is to be able to spend what money the club makes. Anything beyond that would likely infringe FFP (although Boehly has found a way around that).
Assuming the finances for playing squad come from our own revenues, we’d be looking for someone who can invest beyond that on infrastructure.
Also, a general best in class approach to recruitment of staff etc would go along way - I guess that can be described as having genuine ambition.
I don't think any of us are journalists with links to the Emir of Qatar unfortunately.
Why would we want this when everything these middle east investors touch make a mockery of football
again, sportswashing is not an exclusively ME thing or label.. in fact I am pretty sure western countries started it
many western companies have been accused of sportswashing too, like Ineos
it exists throughout many sports and not just football
I guess you'll just ignore this point again so no need to reply with another rant about the ME and stuff, you've already proved a few times you don't even understand what it is
Oh right well that’s one good bit of news, I generally wasn’t sure how much we still owed. Thank you.
Why does this sound too good to be true?
Literally everything we'd want done as fans checked
Probably because we are so used to the glazers who don’t know the first thing about football, only care about strategy as far as impacts their wallets and make only limited attempts to understand what is important to fans.
It’s the stuff dreams are made of. Liverpool completely destroyed having gone to absolute shite. The manager looking clueless. No interest from anyone to buy them.
Man City being shown for the cheaters they are. Their team stumbling with players falling out.
Utd balling on the pitch and now about to acquire a war chest. Pinch me and wake me up Susan.
AND it seems we get to keep our genius baldy!!
(since some people were worried if new owners would bring in someone of their own liking.)FSG were "sensible" owners. They took Liverpool's existing revenues and built the best side they could. Ultimately, they understand they can't compete against Oil money. It doesn't make sense for them financially to see through a rebuild and they'd rather just take their profits now.
Both clubs make ~ the same topline revenues.
World Cup wasn’t such a bad one
Biggest stumbling block will be dual ownership and how closely tied the funds are to a sovereign state. Pretty serious considerations but otherwise I see this happening.
Why does this sound too good to be true?
Literally everything we'd want done as fans checked
One thing I don't understand is if someone is worth 300+ billion, is a big united fan and can/wants to buy United, why wait until 2023? Surely the club was in a much better position 10 or even 8 years ago.
They both do, but lets put it in perspective. When Liverpool where in the doldrums like United have been in the last 10 years, and United where at the top of the tree they where miles and miles behind. You flip the situation round with United behind in the doldrums and Liverpool being top of the tree and they are only able to match our revenues.
The point is, over the 5 years if United had of been in title challenges and CL challengers our income would have been much higher than it is.
Liverpool can only catch our revenues when their top and we're having our worst season ever in the Premier League history. that's a big difference.
Apparently they tried years ago in 2011 but the Glazers weren't interested in selling
The owners have to be willing to sell! Not clear the Glazers have ever entertained that possibility before now.
We weren’t for sale. Qatar had a strategy around the WC etc too.
Glazers weren’t looking to sell 10 years ago.
This is pretty much how I feel. Not overjoyed but I am realist and will always love Manchester United. I am a big Baltimore Orioles baseball fan, if I can put up with the Angelos family owning my beloved hometown team then I can deal with this.
Wouldn't be surprised if they sold PSG. EPL is where you want to be. Saudi and UAE is already here. So for obvious reasons!
Not before arranging a "special deal" for Mbappe.
So.. welcome to the sports washing club then. Most of you seem pleased. Interesting.
Spending a few billion depends a lot on the right moment and the right opportunity. Plus, the Glazers didn't really want to sell as they knew the club will be valued much higher in the future.
The only good thing about Qatar buying United is that they won't need to do crazy shit like City did. We have enough sponsors and can produce our own money.
Still, being owned by Qatar doesn't sound good to me.
Fair point.
According to Jackson even Emir thinks we are not worth 6b. They are prepared to offer 4.5b. Think 5-5.5 is what we will go for. Ratcliffe is definitely out looking at those numbers else we are looking at leveraged buyout of magnitudes higher than what we got in 2005
I'm a big Red Sox fan - squaring FSG owning them and Liverpool is tricky!!
Yeah I agree, definitely a higher revenue potential with United.
Had we continued to be in the top 1-2 (or atleast deep CL knockouts) consistently, we probably would've made 20% more in revenues (pulled those numbers out of my ass, but seems right).
It's possible to build a competitive side with a 7-800M p/yr in revenues. Madrid, Barca, Bayern do that already. But it's so much harder to keep a dynasty going. Couple of mistakes (the Salah contract, Mane leaving etc.) and you're screwed for several years.
Ian Ladyman: "We are told it is not the Qatari state that wishes to take United off the hands of the Glazers, rather it is individual investors."
I still think Emir is involved but maybe not directly. Solves both of the issues. He gets the team he wants and no conflict with PSG
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