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I'm the same. Rather not but what do you do,
As far as morals etc go the Glazers are scum so them going is the big plus here.
If ME money buys us not much we can go. It come down to money, and what billionaires actually have the moral high ground that can buy us?
The club is the fans, the city, the stadium, the history.......ownership not that important regarding support
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Football morality went out the window years ago, you are just denying yourself something you enjoy to virtue signal something the majority won't even care about.
That's the unfortunate truth.
That's the unfortunate truth.
The people against this are the bad guys ?
Bill Gates. But he too was an evil cnut in the eyes of millions at one stage too.
Look, I had pictures of Martin Buchan, and Gordan McQueen on my walls as a kid.
I used to look forward in July/August for this:
Trust me, as I mentioned earlier, folks here seem to think that supporting a football club reflects on your morals. Your identity. It doesn't.
One grows out of this as one matures. I had the same moral outrage over the first Million-pound transfer or even Keano asking & getting 60k/week.
You come to compromises -- like when Cantona kungfu kicked a racist fan. But over time, I went back to loving Cantona.
This is life. Many of you will find this out in time.
Ah man. I used to love those wall charts.
Do they still do them?
Came in expecting actual news - ended up reading pages of dribble.
Everyone is entitled to their feelings of whoever the new owner is, of course.
But why spend your time and energy worrying about it all when we don’t have a clue who the actual buyer is going to be?
Everyone is entitled to their feelings of whoever the new owner is, of course.
But why spend your time and energy worrying about it all when we don’t have a clue who the actual buyer is going to be?
Quick question, if you are against this, then why? According to reports, QSI is not involved and its private businessman of Qatari origin.
So the question is, why are you against that as well? Does it mean any ME individual is not fit enough to own Manutd?
Before bringing Qatar human rights or any other issue, did we even try to ascertain who are the bidders? Will we judge American consortium depending on how many innocents American government killed using drone strike? Why this morality question is being asked when Qatar individuals are involved and for other countries same is not done?
Women's rights aside, you just need to look at City's women's team to show Middle Eastern investment does not cause a problem with running of the Womens team.
A lot of the issues come from their laws/religious laws, but none of that will be imposed here.
I've got no problem with ME owners per se, as I feel that exposure between cultures brings us closer together and speeds the advance of progress. I do, however, have huge concerns about the potential to descend into a PSG/City type model where we're laying down 100's of millions on the Mbappes and Neymars etc.. The standout feature of ETH's tenure so far is how he's got the squad emotionally re-connected to the fans. That's what United is about imo and that's how it should remain.
Yeah same. Not happy about it but what us fans think mean feck all.
Do we need to buy the likes of Mbappe? City and PSG were nothing on the world stage, they needed the best manager on the planet, PSG needed to sign who they did to get themselves noticed. We already have a massive world wide fan base and brand. Think the biggest type of signings we may do is the likes of Kane/Rice/Bellingham if we want English players.
No I don't think we do and it really isn't a direction we should take.
I honestly don't see that happening with FFP. What it should allow would be investment in infrastructure and facilities at Old Trafford, training ground and surrounding areas. That I think is essential.
Our Women's squad is underpaid and investment there would be very welcome.
Still hasn't been picked up by anyone else has it?
I'd be happy with this as I'd expect a new stadium and training facilities etc. An amazing infrastructure around Old Trafford in the level that our club needs to have. It's more about the investment in other areas rather than the squad, because I think we can compete for the best players by having this platform to succeed. We will continue to have the best sponsors and consistent top 4 and trophies will snowball that again without the need of risking any form of FFP abuse.
No good, the players won’t be able to see each other - even if we do sign Mbappe.
Believe it or not, you don’t control what people can or cannot talk about in these threads. I’m not even sure what you’re moaning about. Throughout the whole website there’s big threads where the same points are repetitively discussed. I’m assuming it’s just because you don’t like this talking point.
Anyway, you’ve made your point about ‘fake’ morals now, I expect you’re not going to repeat this opinion over the coming months in this thread?
Bring on that filthy oil money
Wait - they want us AND Liverpool? How’s that for happy families?!
Nope, it is just economic growth and development like any country in the world has the right to do, not just western ones. This 'sportswashing' term is ridiculous. Are the US bidding for the World Cup as some ruse to distract everyone from the fact that they are anti-abortion or invade countries? Or is that just 'different' and of course, 'whataboutism'?
People need to realise that all ME states do not operate from the primary position of what people living in England think about their human rights policies.
If the morals mean so much, why didn't follow the thread from the start or at least make the effort to read the previous 5 pages before posting? They will then realise that what ever moral issues have been pointed out many times over.
Posting without investing in the thread is just lazy or virtue signalling.
He’s already said this is about a legacy, a ‘hobby for retirement’ (poor choice of words - hope you understand) and giving back to the community he grew up in. He doesn’t expect a ROI - which itself would be different to burning cash with nothing to show for it like some expect of oil money. He will be prudent, not tight. There is a difference.
I don't even think Shoot magazine is in hard copy anymore. Some skeleton of itself online now. It used to be the authority or at least the main footy magazine/source of information.
Any fans on here from the gulf able to verify if these reports of Qatari interest in United are getting play in the Middle East?
Absolutely this. Call me stupid but I’d rather win one Premier League and a Champions League in the next 10 years with a squad like we have now, than win them regularly with a squad full of mercenaries.
So’s your face! Nah nah na-nah naaah!!
Think they have left the discussion considering the racist undertone through out.
Different investors, QIA is the soveriegn wealth fund, whose subsidery QSI own PSG (so im not sure how that will work)
How ever i think it's been suggested the United bid will be from a group of private individuals in Qatar. Probably just some clever way of getting around the UEFA rules.
I agree mostly. My first game was in 1978. My dad stood on the Stretford End in the 50s. My lads are big United fans. Nobody takes United away from me. Or them. The decisions of billionaires are not my fault and I won't be defined by them.Look, I had pictures of Martin Buchan, and Gordan McQueen on my walls as a kid.
I used to look forward in July/August for this:
Trust me, as I mentioned earlier, folks here seem to think that supporting a football club reflects on your morals. Your identity. It doesn't.
One grows out of this as one matures. I had the same moral outrage over the first Million-pound transfer or even Keano asking & getting 60k/week.
You come to compromises -- like when Cantona kungfu kicked a racist fan. But over time, I went back to loving Cantona.
This is life. Many of you will find this out in time.
I don't like the idea of sportswashing, state ownership or the like, I'd much rather it was a more straightforward investment. But these decisions don't change my allegiance to the club and its history and heritage.
What I won't do is glory in it though like City and Newcastle fans. I'll reluctantly accept it and get on with my life.
Agree. Thats why I hope that there is some unwritten rule that United with an Oil money owner will ensure that we have 2-3 academy kids come through every year.
There is several threads regarding the ownership. I have a post on page 1 of the state owned club thread, back in November, stating my view on this.
Your point is so bad I’m just going to put you on ignore instead of bothering with this anyway.
£8B+debt+cost of new stadium and top of the art facilities+squad investment
is that right? yeah, bring the Qataris
is that right? yeah, bring the Qataris
I think its an age thing -- when we first started supporting United -- the shit years, the inconsistent years and then the Lucky Era with Fergie and now the patchy years again. Its not about silverware at all -- which is what some folks here think its all about and why I they think have no issues with an Oil monied owner.
Everything is either relative or we have been outraged before -- like Trev Francis breaking that 1million quid barrier to 500k/week players when nurses are barely getting by.
You worry about what you can control and not fret about things that's way beyond your influence.
They are all mercenaries. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that, you should be one too in your professional life. Football is a profession. Peter Parker would likely lose his limbs/die if he’d gotten bitten by a radioactive spider
Thanks precious.
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