Club Sale | It’s done!

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The irony will be fun over the next few years at least

I don't really care about the morality of owners since I think they're probably all terrible people anyway. Just saying if people did have moral objections to the state of Qatar owning the club, considering how many human rights they abuse, an individual or set of individuals would not be the same as that state itself buying the club. I'm sure he's still morally corrupt, just as I'm sure the Glazers, Kroenkes, FSG, Boehly, Ratcliffe and pretty much any billionaires or big club owners are.
 
If the sale to Qatar goes through in time, will any of morally superior fans give away their ballot spot for carabao final tickets? Asking for a mate.
 
Isn't it better to fight fire with water? Unless it's an electrical fire of course. Or a chip pan in the early 1980s.

I mean, I'm no expert, but I'm confident that I know a bit more than this Hetfield fella.
Never throw water on a fat fire. It will take your face off
 
Can we get this done before City mess spills over and government comes up with white paper and what not?
 
As a City fan, surely you're the expert on becoming what you hated - any advice?
Impossible to walk away from the club you love, so just got to roll with it. Probably more upside to it for us than you though considering we were incredibly shite for years. Well, more upside, atleast until yesterday. They/he will get your infrastructure up and running with the best of them in no time though.
 

The Emir's son is said to be a big United fan. But the article from Mike Keegan doesn't mention state interest in United but rather a group of wealthy individuals from Qatar who want to buy the club. The quote from the article below.


Mike Keegan: "Sources have disclosed a group of private, high-wealth individuals based in the oil-rich state, buoyed by Qatar’s hosting of the World Cup, have set their sights on a club they view as ‘football’s crown jewels"
 
It says group of private Qatari businessmen. How is that worse compared to group of American businessmen. Would not jump to conclusion on this.
It’s not. The glazers have been awful for us as a club, all we want is owners who invest (within the rules) in the club with ambition to make us the best in the world.
 
Can we get this done before City mess spills over and government comes up with white paper and what not?
Need to get this done before this regulation screws out of competing with all these other bullshit clubs.
 
My gut feeling is that a Qatari bid would be blocked by the PL. A lot has happened since they allowed the Saudis to buy Newcastle - Russia invading Ukraine, unfitness of Abramovich exposed, the extent of City's blatant cheating and power plays with lawyers etc.

I might be wrong but my initial feeling is that the PL won't want it and will find a way of blocking it.
On what basis? That you cant have owners from specific countries? There is no way this will be blocked unless they can prove some financial fraud or government interference.
 
I don't really care about the morality of owners since I think they're probably all terrible people anyway. Just saying if people did have moral objections to the state of Qatar owning the club, considering how many human rights they abuse, an individual or set of individuals would not be the same as that state itself buying the club. I'm sure he's still morally corrupt, just as I'm sure the Glazers, Kroenke's, FSG, Boehly, Ratcliffe and pretty much any billionaires or big club owners are.
That is all fair enough I guess, I just wonder what your feelings are about Citys ownership considering we got bought out by an individual as well
 
I don't really understand this viewpoint. So you would just stop watching/supporting football altogether? Or just United? And it's because the club would finally not be flawed with debt/garbage infrastructure and owners?
No, the excitement of squad building will be gone. I know it could go wrong but we already know England is becoming the super league of football. Every top player seems to want to come here. Imagine being as huge as United that are winning all the trophies with huge stars and not only that but have the first pick of stars who want to come behind them.
it’ll be exciting for a few years but what about 10 years down the line? Are you excited about signing tomorrows Mbappe when you have todays Mbappe in your side? Are you as excited as you are watching Garnacho when you know Haaland is on the market and you really have to go for the big blonde dickhead?
As I said that’s worst case and that would be why I would stop watching. If it stays how it is now and Ten Hag simply wants to buy the Napoli striker and Bellingham then fair enough ( yes I already know they’re elite players) but I can’t see us signing a Martinez if United could just go to the best defender in Spain at the time or De Ligt or somebody stupid like that.
Im just saying I hope there’s an in between. The soul of a club can be lost very quickly
 
No, the excitement of squad building will be gone. I know it could go wrong but we already know England is becoming the super league of football. Every top player seems to want to come here. Imagine being as huge as United that are winning all the trophies with huge stars and not only that but have the first pick of stars who want to come behind them.
it’ll be exciting for a few years but what about 10 years down the line? Are you excited about signing tomorrows Mbappe when you have todays Mbappe in your side? Are you as excited as you are watching Garnacho when you know Haaland is on the market and you really have to go for the big blonde dickhead?
As I said that’s worst case and that would be why I would stop watching. If it stays how it is now and Ten Hag simply wants to buy the Napoli striker and Bellingham then fair enough ( yes I already know they’re elite players) but I can’t see us signing a Martinez if United could just go to the best defender in Spain at the time or De Ligt or somebody stupid like that.
Im just saying I hope there’s an in between. The soul of a club can be lost very quickly

Why would you think Ten Hag wouldn't have signed Martinez? i think if he had 500 million to spend, his ideas on how to build the team would be the same, he'd just be able to build it quicker.
 
No, the excitement of squad building will be gone. I know it could go wrong but we already know England is becoming the super league of football. Every top player seems to want to come here. Imagine being as huge as United that are winning all the trophies with huge stars and not only that but have the first pick of stars who want to come behind them.
it’ll be exciting for a few years but what about 10 years down the line? Are you excited about signing tomorrows Mbappe when you have todays Mbappe in your side? Are you as excited as you are watching Garnacho when you know Haaland is on the market and you really have to go for the big blonde dickhead?
As I said that’s worst case and that would be why I would stop watching. If it stays how it is now and Ten Hag simply wants to buy the Napoli striker and Bellingham then fair enough ( yes I already know they’re elite players) but I can’t see us signing a Martinez if United could just go to the best defender in Spain at the time or De Ligt or somebody stupid like that.
Im just saying I hope there’s an in between. The soul of a club can be lost very quickly
ETH will still be manager. Don’t see us wasting money for the sake of it.

More to the point, how have Newcastle handled having unimaginable wealth thus far?
 
That is all fair enough I guess, I just wonder what your feelings are about Citys ownership considering we got bought out by an individual as well

I didn't have a problem with the ownership. I have a problem with you blatantly breaking FFP and creating fake revenue reports, and because of that I believe you deserve to be punished for it. Not with the ownership itself though, my thoughts were the same in relation to Newcastle, which was a much more morally questionable purchase. Honestly don't think talk of morals has much place in such an obviously consistently immoral business. I love the sport and above all my club. I just want the best for it. Simple as that.
 
My gut feeling is that a Qatari bid would be blocked by the PL. A lot has happened since they allowed the Saudis to buy Newcastle - Russia invading Ukraine, unfitness of Abramovich exposed, the extent of City's blatant cheating and power plays with lawyers etc.

I might be wrong but my initial feeling is that the PL won't want it and will find a way of blocking it.
These are investors though, apparently they’ll be considered separate from the state (or so I’ve read)
Can’t ban somebody because of their nationality rally
 
whats happening to city is they were doing illegal accounting practices. What's that have to do with a consortium from Qatar?
Are we expected to maintain similar spending levels as under the Glazers, ie our own money?
 
No, the excitement of squad building will be gone. I know it could go wrong but we already know England is becoming the super league of football. Every top player seems to want to come here. Imagine being as huge as United that are winning all the trophies with huge stars and not only that but have the first pick of stars who want to come behind them.
it’ll be exciting for a few years but what about 10 years down the line? Are you excited about signing tomorrows Mbappe when you have todays Mbappe in your side? Are you as excited as you are watching Garnacho when you know Haaland is on the market and you really have to go for the big blonde dickhead?
As I said that’s worst case and that would be why I would stop watching. If it stays how it is now and Ten Hag simply wants to buy the Napoli striker and Bellingham then fair enough ( yes I already know they’re elite players) but I can’t see us signing a Martinez if United could just go to the best defender in Spain at the time or De Ligt or somebody stupid like that.
Im just saying I hope there’s an in between. The soul of a club can be lost very quickly
Jeez some people like to write obituaries even before the death.
 
On what basis? That you cant have owners from specific countries? There is no way this will be blocked unless they can prove some financial fraud or government interference.

They could find a way if they wanted. The PL initially blocked the Saudis from buying Newcastle over TV rights issues in the middle east, they are very capable of playing politics.

I doubt there's many Qatari billionaires that are squeaky clean. They will find something and block them if they want to, don't make any mistake about it
 
This part is interesting



So they could be involved in this group. These people are filthy rich
 
"Manchester United have reached the promised land"

Glazers are almost out
 
No, the excitement of squad building will be gone. I know it could go wrong but we already know England is becoming the super league of football. Every top player seems to want to come here. Imagine being as huge as United that are winning all the trophies with huge stars and not only that but have the first pick of stars who want to come behind them.
it’ll be exciting for a few years but what about 10 years down the line? Are you excited about signing tomorrows Mbappe when you have todays Mbappe in your side? Are you as excited as you are watching Garnacho when you know Haaland is on the market and you really have to go for the big blonde dickhead?
As I said that’s worst case and that would be why I would stop watching. If it stays how it is now and Ten Hag simply wants to buy the Napoli striker and Bellingham then fair enough ( yes I already know they’re elite players) but I can’t see us signing a Martinez if United could just go to the best defender in Spain at the time or De Ligt or somebody stupid like that.
Im just saying I hope there’s an in between. The soul of a club can be lost very quickly

I don't think it would really come to that, and honestly did you get bored back when we were at the top of football and SAF was constantly looking to bring in the best strikers every summer? I understand what your fear is as in a best (but really worst) case scenario is we turn into a glorified FM club just spanking 300m every window at shiny new toys.

I think big money takeover would more put us on an operational level similar to Real Madrid, which is fair and where we should be, where we'd have the opportunity to go after big names in the market without much constraint on the budget while still being run properly investing in young players etc. RM is always linked in any big money move, but they are as dominant as they are because they go out and sign top young players from all over and then maybe supplement those players with a big name signing. Not to mention even if we can afford someone doesn't mean every player will want to come here, it's still Manchester after all :lol:
 
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