Agreed, i really hope Jim is successful as he's stepped in where nobody else was willing.
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Great.
If they do and the Glazers accept it/agree to sell their shares, a clause in the recent deal gives Ratcliffe right of refusal to match said offer and gazump anyone… he then has the club.
Agree. The Jassim bid doesn't really have the fingerprints of QSI on it, it looks more and more like an individual (and quite embarrassing one) one. Especially considering the proof of funding part is quite something. There's a strong possibility that Jassim's family fund (ie his dad's) could in theory afford the outlay - the main issue is that the funds are probably mostly tied to shady assets (offshore), judging by what we know about it through the Papers.
United are a mess. We leak almost like the OT's roof, our team doesn't care, our football structure is non existent, our current owners are clueless and we can't even cook chicken right. The Liverpool fans I know are struggling to tease us at this point while the old timers I meet (ie those who had been supporting United since the crash) can't think of a worst period then now. They say that even when we got relegated at least we had owners and a team that gave a feck something that goes missing in this current side. All the fans care at this point is progression. SJR must hire football people and the club must stop sending our marquee signings back to their former club on a free/loan though. In few words we need to stop being a banter club
The financial position we're in is dire.
Will be a long time until we're challenging again, if at all.
Will be a long time until we're challenging again, if at all.
Ledtback with his usual glass half empty take on everything 
The actual nothingness to the Qatar bid likely making some feel incredibly silly today.
Hopefully wrong for onceLedtback with his usual glass half empty take on everything
He was gonna buy us a new stadium, training groud & everything.
My God so many swooned over the Qatar bid.
Mike Keegan, Kaveh Solhekol, Rio, Custis etc all looking like fools today.
Matt Lawton from The Times who consistently said that Ratcliffe was the lead bidder deserves massive credit for his reporting.
Matt Lawton from The Times who consistently said that Ratcliffe was the lead bidder deserves massive credit for his reporting.
I'm far from a financial expert, but yeah, all.
Our cash reserves are low. The amount of debt, including transfer debt, is very close to £1b. We are right on the limit for FFP, though I don't know for how long(assuming no incoming transfers) that will remain the case. And we basically don't make a profit once the leeches loans have been paid, and they've taken their dividends. At least that last part will improve this year, as for the rest... Jimmy's got a job on, that's for sure.
Yes I think he could afford it, but only with dad's money. But daddy gave him only a certain amount of money to play with.
Oh, Ben Jacobs. Give it a rest
When does Daniel Radcliffe's era officially begin? Can't wait.
This whole "Sheikh Jassim was never serious" story is complete nonsense.
It's obviously an attempt downplay his bid and make people believe SJR was the only real option. If you concede no one else was is in the race, you automatically become grateful for whatever you've been given, in this case - SRJ buying 25% and the Glazers staying. (Which 99% of the fanbase didn't want 12 months ago)
If the Qataris had won, we would be hearing the same nonsense about the opposition bids. Its all part of the game. Tactics to win over fans support.
It's obviously an attempt downplay his bid and make people believe SJR was the only real option. If you concede no one else was is in the race, you automatically become grateful for whatever you've been given, in this case - SRJ buying 25% and the Glazers staying. (Which 99% of the fanbase didn't want 12 months ago)
If the Qataris had won, we would be hearing the same nonsense about the opposition bids. Its all part of the game. Tactics to win over fans support.
The whole thing smells like history repeating itself again and falling for a fake, like Michael Knighton
But why would SJR want people to believe he was the only one in the race? Surely he’d want people to believe the right group won in the end? It’s not like there’s anything to play for, so why would he engage in this petty nonsense? SJ would because he wants to save face
It’s official (legal!) paperwork stating proof of funds was never received. It’s not made up at all.
In all honesty who cares what the Qataris did or didn't offer? That's old news, I prefer to look forward to INEOS reign of terror.
Oh, Ben Jacobs. Give it a rest
Ben Jacobs pretended to be an ITK with bidders who were never serious about buying us
Apparently this investment gives us an incredible amount to spend ffp wise so he’s chatting shit as per usual
Yeah you are right, we should definitely gloss over the bit where you backed and bigged up the Qatari offer as the best option for months……
(I’m pulling your leg)Anything for Mbappe, eh lad?!
It's about managing expectations. If the idea Qatar had a chance lingers, SJR has a certain level of success he has to achieve to stop the "what if" brigade.
Say his idea of success is securing top 4 for the next few seasons, there will be people that say "If we had Qatar, first place would have been the goal"......but because they are being painted as never serious, the bar is "well with the Glazers owning 100% we couldnt even get top 4". Theyre managing expections early on, which isnt a good sign IMO.
This - I'd have preferred a debt-free entity with the Glazers totally gone but so far satisfied with the competence being shown by INEOS. Sure we might not get a fancy new stadium as a result but as long as we play entertaining football and hit Arsenal's levels (if not City / Pool) I'd be satisfied.
Theoretically it wasYeah you are right, we should definitely gloss over the bit where you backed and bigged up the Qatari offer as the best option for months……
Anything for Mbappe, eh lad?!
They legally cannot lie on these filings but ok.
Oh, Ben Jacobs. Give it a rest
Thought we’d seen the last of this Stephen Merchant looking bluffer.
Ben…Sheikh Jassim isn’t going to shag you mate, get over it.
It’s not. He has said repeatedly that winning the biggest trophies (PL/CL) is the no.1 aim, and all decisions will be taken in the interest of achieving sporting excellence. It has been widely reported on the last few weeks, this week after his meeting with MUST especially.
Me neither, it’s going to be magic
Oh, Ben Jacobs. Give it a rest
Wasn't he shown the books and signed an NDA and all that? Surely the Raine Group would have sussed if he was a bluffer?
Don't try get involved in a thread involving numbers. Way out of your depth.
Oh, Ben Jacobs. Give it a rest
My choice didn’t win so every story criticising it MUST BE A LIE!
#justiceforshakeabakefakesheikh
Funds would have been checked right at the start of the sale process, it's how they funnel out the pretenders from the serious bidders. How would Sheikh Jassims group have got so far with no guarentees of funds? 1 year of negeotiating and the Glazers didn't believe he could pay? I doubt it.
Why would one of the richest oil producing countries in the world (assuming they were financing this) struggle to prove they could cough up £5b?
And if they knew they couldnt buy the club, why pretend you could and embarass yourself? It doesnt add up.
A blatent attempt by the Glazers to win over support for their new business model.
It's quite obvious now the Qatar bid was a joke, seems a bit weird to see people still desperately clinging onto it and wanting to believe it was ever likely to come to fruition.
My choice didn’t win so every story criticising it MUST BE A LIE!
No not really, just applying common sense.
It's more a case of, my choice won so now I can make up a story that proves I made the right decision.
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