Cantonagotmehere
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Anything at all to shake things up is good news to me. Keep it coming.
You know they're a legit source how?You know this how?
Mate I’m from England, I have absolutely no affiliation to the MuppetiersYou know they're a legit source how?
I know you claim you're not connected to Muppetiers but it's really difficult to think otherwise at this point.
I mean, come on - Muppetiers. They're called Muppetiers.
It goes back to the idea of 'best in class'. Mitchell isn't that. This is a job much higher than his record to date warrants. It's not the equivalent of Txiki going from Barcelona to City. Its a clear step up rather than a sideways move. However, the pros are he is a recognised face on the circuit and he has a degree of credibility our current staff don't have. Agents won't necessarily see him as a soft touch or someone who doesn't know the market. Plus he'll come with ideas instead of defaulting to/hiding behind the head coach.
They're not the only ones who have hinted at it. It was discussed on the Athletic podcast that the Qatari's got on better with Arnold and co than INEOS did. It doesn't mean Arnold would've been safe long term but I think if Qatar had won the bidding war he wouldn't be stepping down days before the takeover is announced.Considering the Qatari bid publicly expressed commitment to bringing the club back to where it was, no chance they wanted to keep Arnold on. This guy is a spoofer.
He supposed voted against the INEOS deal in may
Fair enough, mate. At least we finally have movement in regards to ownership etc - so we should all be happierMate I’m from England, I have absolutely no affiliation to the Muppetiers
There is no set time on how and when you can build up contacts. I imagine in this day and age it takes significantly less time or effort than it used to.He wasn’t admitting he was wrong back then though? It’s the same spiel.
Same as Goldbridge. A lot of fans don’t know that there’s a video out there of him admitting he used fake twitter accounts trying to become a fake ITK.
The grifters just get better at it. It takes years and years to build up contacts like this but he does it within 2/3?
It’s not plausible in any way but people can believe what they want I suppose
Who is the current available best in class? Edwards?
You realise that Fergie worked under the Glazers too?
In that way I’m a bit worried that whoever comes in may succumb to the pressure of such a high profile role. Mitchell for all his success has never been in such a position. Hopefully it all works out though obviously.Best in class isn't a thing. Txiki wasn't "best in class" when he got the job at Barcelona, nor was Edwards or nearly all other examples. Clubs get good DOF's either because it's an internal promotion of someone that fitted well with the club or it's pure luck because clubs seldomly manage to consecutively appoint competent outsiders even when they have a great resume.
I don't really see this distinction between players that suit the club Vs players that suit the coach.
Paul Mitchell is an experienced Sporting Director. He will recruit players and a coach that can work together to realise a vision of football that he has.
IF it's the case that INEOS has decided to persevere with Ten Hag, Mitchell's recruitment will reflect that e.g., e's not going to start looking for De Jong types and end up with Casemiro.
Are people really celebrating the Glazers sacking the one board member who opposed any deal that would only enrich the Glazers, setup the first fans advisory board, dialogue with the TRA for Old Trafford atmosphere, setup a footballing committee to oversee changes which included Sir Alex in an attempt to fix the Woodward mess that ultimately gave us Ten Hag and our first trophy in 6 years and a top 3 finish with another final. Are we really celebrating the Glazers sacking a man that actually wanted the best for the club which in the end was at odds with the Glazers grand plan to continue to abuse the club and to use it as a cash cow? Arnold made some mistakes but this man was a man for the fans and he was against the Glazers and pushed back against their MO and greed to instead focus on what's best for the club long term.
Arnold would have been sacked irrespective of who the new owners are because new owners want their own CEO's but this man voted against Glazer greed and talked to the fans. This sacking is further proof that the Glazers are sticking around long term and he was evidently against that. The man should have some respect from us for taking that stance.
It’s untenable because Arnold was obviously leaking the Qatar stuff to Murtough and Fletcher and that’s where Rio took his punt which proved to be untrue. The interim is simply a place setter, the end is now in site and Sir Jim will be controlling the sports side. The rumour in the press is that £245m will be broken into two parts.
Media now leaking that to circumnavigate FSP/FFP that up-to £90m will be paid into alleviate FFP and give ETH sone kind of transfer kitty in January plus the remaining £160m used for infrastructure and carrington improvements.
We just need to hear his words and see how quickly he intends to act on playing staff, DOF, medical department, Etc.
Plus I swear he has admitted he posted self confessed bullshit for most of the muppetier nonsense but promised it’s really reliable now. Honest.
I’ll see if I can find it
Edit he’s basically slim lined his ability to bullshit better
You’re welcome to scroll through my twitter and watch as we go from posting totally wrong info in 2020 to gradually more and more correct through today. I happily stand by that journey of being completely wrong about everything at the start of all this.
They were 'running' it enough to demand that Ronaldo money largely went to servicing the debt they'd personally incurred rather than substantially reinvesting the club's own money and instead covering the outstanding debt (again, borrowing for their ownership rather than that the club had incurred investing in facilities or buying players) themselves across the siblings, as well as limiting our ability to rebuild the midfield under final days of SAF. It was only when they didn't have a virtual miracle worker that they started to allow more of the club's own revenue to go onto (by then, less well judged) player purchases...Fergie and Gill ran the club. The best thing the glazers did when they took over was have little to no input in any capacity in the football end of things.
As soon as Ferguson left that all changed. It’s well documented from ex managers aswell as respected journalists.
2013 to now is a Glazers run man United.
Who is the current available best in class? Edwards?
They will give him a chance I’m sure of that however his days of demanding players like Antony for £82m are over, you can buy players that suit the physicality and intensity of the EPL is what I meant by suiting the club, not appeasing the coach by looking to recruit only players who played in Eredevise.
Analysing the current state of the Dutch league means that the club will not be specifically recruiting from that league unless a true superstar emerges.
Agree. However, even if I don't hate the guy, I don't think he will be sorely missed.
Infrastructure investment can include paying money into the club, investing which is what the Glazers have never done allows INEOS to circumnavigate a lot of the FFP/FSP issues of the club without actually injecting a further £100-200m of cash to buy players. Most players are purchased over terms anyway.How so? Surprised we're not singing his name in the stands if this were true.
I thought the word is that none of that initial investment will be for transfers and 100% for improving infrastructure?
He did post on here, I remember his username but can't remember much of what was said. Think there were a few of these ITK's at the time....GoldTrafford was another iirc?
Regarding the bolded part. Is that actually what he said? Laughable if so. Sounds like he realised something that was originally a bit of fun could actually make money, so he decided to try to rescue it and try to put a bit more thought into it. The early rumours were laughably wrong. Practically just saying what the fans wanted to hear. I do half wonder if he gets most of his info from RedCafe.
I see what you mean.
Yeah, it'll be like Txiki and Doku. The Sporting Director will make a judgement on who suits the coach, on the understanding that the coach suits the idea of how Manchester United wants to play.
Maybe he really did care about the club and knew the only real way to get rid of the Glazers was the full sale to Qatar.
From all the reports coming out lately it sounds like Arnold was in with Qatar and knew he was fecked if INEOS won
Dan AshworthWho is the current available best in class? Edwards?
Is there a single DOF that has managed to replicate what they did at their former club, at their new club?Who is the current available best in class? Edwards?
That’s my worry too.Is there a single DOF that has managed to replicate what they did at their former club, at their new club?
People keep talking about hiring the best people but DOF’s seem to be unable to replicate what they have previously achieved.
Doubt Ashworth would be available, given whose payroll he's currently on.Dan Ashworth
Let’s be clear here Antony is the worst recruit ever by the club and this must never happen again!
If you think Antony is the worst recruit ever by the club then you haven't been watching United for very longLet’s be clear here Antony is the worst recruit ever by the club and this must never happen again!
If you think Antony is the worst recruit ever by the club then you haven't been watching United for very long
Is there a single DOF that has managed to replicate what they did at their former club, at their new club?
People keep talking about hiring the best people but DOF’s seem to be unable to replicate what they have previously achieved.
I agree. But it is still better to hire a guy who worked already on that position than promote someone "who did great things with women team".Is there a single DOF that has managed to replicate what they did at their former club, at their new club?
People keep talking about hiring the best people but DOF’s seem to be unable to replicate what they have previously achieved.
Agreed, I’d rather seem someone with pedigree in the role and see them given autonomy but there’s this expectation that that’s all we need and we’re set to win the league again.I agree. But it is still better to hire a guy who worked already on that position than promote someone "who did great things with women team".
Probably because Antony has an unlikeable personality, Weghorst was a "recruit" and was way worse than Antony, but he was a likeable bloke. I also think the fact that he's Brazilian has something to do with it, an assumption that a winger from Brazil should be someone in the style of one of Brazil's greatsWeird how Antony gets this kind of talk but Sancho who was signed for £9m less but is on way higher wages, has barely busted a gut in his entire Utd career, fallen out with the manager and chucked 6 months of his career in the bin is not seen in that way.
Let’s be clear here Antony is the worst recruit ever by the club and this must never happen again!
I’d say Sancho beats him marginally. There’s still a chance Antony returns on some of his value, whereas Sancho has already completely given up after 2 seasons.Let’s be clear here Antony is the worst recruit ever by the club and this must never happen again!