The post wasn’t for you, it was for me , very cathartic.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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You were replying to yourself, and talking as if having a conversation as if posting from a different account - it looked odd.
Precisely my thoughts. The whole thing has really put me off.
Excellent points as always.
They are all saying the same thing, because they are being swamped from one source. Have the Glazer’s made any comment on these plans?
You have a limited view on journalism.
If you are so convinced that everything is a false narrative I am assuming you think Qatar are not truly out?
Glazers will speak when it's official. But that doesn't mean everything up to that point is PR. And it's weird to think all journalists have one source.
He is currently able to veto a player that he doesn’t think fits - ie the Ronaldo resigning as an example - but he doesn’t have the ability to sign whoever he wants - he identifies with the DOF who he wants, then it was down to Murtugh to work out the deal - that then needed approval from above.
How it’s actually worked is that we never managed to get the player first identified - and end up getting 3rd/4th on the list - normally an ex player of ETH and paying top dollar for them.
Replacing the DOF seems one of the easiest wins going forward as we seem to pay way over the odds for players that are not our first Priority and give away players to get them off the books.
I would think that ETH will be more than happy with the sporting setup reshuffle.
Why do you believe this is true? Who are the 3rd/4th options we are getting?
Also it should be the clubs job to identify the players. ETH whole have preferences and specific requirements.
When do we expect some kind of announcement to be made around this with the details shared too?
I'm probably wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if the Glazers are actually holding out for a billion each from Qatar.
This is normal at most clubs where the head coach can veto a transfer if he feels the player being targeted isn't a fit for his style of play. It happens at Bayern, it happens at RB Leipzig, it happens at Liverpool, it happens at Brighton and also at City and Arsenal.
It's absolutely normal to have the power of veto. What's not normal is to have a transfer committee on the football side of the club because that signifies that the head coach and recruitnent department are at loggerheads with each other.. And since Klopp came to Liverpool he went ahead and signed Mane and Van Dijk after both players were vetoed by Michael Edwards and his team under Brendan Rodgers who reportedly wanted both players. Rodgers wanted Van Dijk from Celtic.
Uncertain if it’s contractual. But Ole did say in his Athletic interview last month that no player is signed at the club without the manger’s approval. Seems to be a club policy.
ETH should not have this power whether it's Jim, the Glaziers, Jassim or the Finnish dude
It’s a normal practice.
It's industry standard.
Fair enough lads, I did not know that. I've been a big advocate of the managers not being the ones in charge of transfers for a very long time, so this sounded like more of the same of our usual MO. Did not know this was the usual.
My guess is the November international break, but who the feck knows at this point. We were most recently led to believe it would be Thursday, then it was supposedly delayed "weeks."
I’m sure Qatar are out, and yes, I do have a limited view of journalism. As the Glazer’s have made no comment it’s blindingly obvious where the source of these stories are coming from.
It actually isn’t
Aren't the Glazers supposedly still 'deliberating' big Jim's offer, so who knows? Would not surprise me if they managed to drag this on for a few more months despite there only being one bidder now
Him having the right to veto a signing doesn't mean he's in charge.
If the manager knows what he wants and the recruitment structure in place is also competent, then the former vetoing a signing should be a very rare occurance.
I don’t think it’s who’s in charge, it’s just something you hear but never put 2 and 2 together.
They usually have a list and they don’t go down the list simply because of fees No point in buying a player that the manager says doesn’t fit in or would start that many games.
Manager would say we need this and in this style, what have you got for me and move from there
He's not in charge of recruitment mate. A head coach at every well run club has a veto because a club should not be signing a player that the head coach feels isn't a fit for his methods. Ralf Rangnick himself has gone on record and said he never signed a player as a DoF if the head coach didn't first approve.
The most important people when it comes to identifying talent at any club, are the heads of recruitment. And once they're in place, they should work with the DoF and head coach to identify players for the selected head coach's methods. Jose Mayorga and Simon Wells are now in place and the veto power rests with ten Hag and the recruitment heads. I can give you similar examples at other clubs aswell.
It's imperative that both the head coach and recruitment heads work together. And that is the most important connection that needs to be made if a streamlined approach to recruitment is to take shape.
The Glazers won't make a comment until its done.
And it's not obvious where the source is coming from. Apart from when they cite the sources. For example The Times literally cited sources close to the Glazers in their article, and you are either purposely being obtuse about it or you haven't actually bothered to keep up with the reports.
Is meaningless in all honesty. If the owner takes a notion and wants to buy Mbappe for example and Erik said no I'm pretty sure the owner will buy the player anyway and Erik can do nothing about it.
After all what's he going to do quit?
Ultimately the owner decides to sack the manager so all power always rests with the owner
I’m thinking the same. Something isn’t quite right with all of this.
Just make the Glazers an offer they can’t refuse eg £7b
of course he should. He picks the team. Ideally though the manager will agree with the committee. Sir Jim isn’t doing this for fun or to make money there are far easier ways for him to do that. He wants United back at the top. He’s want the best. He’s no Woodward.
Laughing at recommending his own person to round out a 3 man committee like it isn't obvious it's to guarantee he has majority voting power in board meetings. Not even mad, Glazers deserve it for thinking anyone is fronting several billion for them to burn with bad management. It made more sense to sell outright but Joel is shameless
Qatar had 10months to do that and didn’t. Sir Jim did a deal to get over the line. £1.4bn cash not chump change
The INEOS offer isn't the more virtuous sign of commitment or anything. In fact glazer desperation is the only context the partial sale makes more sense to a broke seller. Because their entire M.O since they got to England is blowing other people's money to stay on as owners. They would just rather stay on as credit squatters.
I don't even know how this INEOS deal is going to play out when you take into account they have obviously contradicting long and short term goals. Long term JR wants to push them out of the club and they know it. Even already trying to phase them out of football decisions.
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Does it matter? It doesn't change a thing really
Head in sand. Of course I’ve kept up with reports. If it’s not obvious to you I feel sorry for you. You are being suckered by Sir Jim PR. He may well end up with a deal, but I really hope not on his terms. And no, I didn’t really want Qatar either. What I want is the Glazer’s gone, and we seem even further away from that ideal where we stand now.
Clearly you haven't
"They're all coming from Ratcliffes PR"
*pointed out to when the times literally cited Glazer sources*
- "your head is in the sand!"
I agree. Klopp was overruled when he didn't want Salah, and almost a certainty Pochettino didn't want 100 players in the summer.
If true, excellent news. I like what I am hearing with him and Jean Claude Blanc.
Nice top of Ligue 1. What an owner 
In before Adnan arrives to comprehensively explain why PM's a spoofer. TBH I'm reserving judgement either way...
I’d prefer Edwards tbh…
I think Edwards understandably holds himself in too high regard to get involved with a club where the Glazer goblins retain some level of footballing-related decision-making power, as looks likely whatever the final terms of the deal here.
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