Club Sale | It’s done!

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This thread gonna be a gold mine, unlimited pockets of delusion and copium
 
So are the tier 1 guys who were all 100% sure what was exactly gonna happen and how Sir Jim was gonna get all the control for 25% stake taking their stories back.
 
Hahaha when you peel away the PR, it would still be Joel Glazer sat at the top of the football decision-making tree.

With Glazers lackeys and their friends populating the positions beneath. Glazer Stooge FC

The heads-in-sand and silver-lining folk cant say they weren't warned.
 
Take us down to the Championship Erik, it's our only hope.
 
Logic tells you that 25% minority ownership doesn’t get you control of anything.

It also doesn’t guarantee a path to full ownership.

“Yesterdays price is not todays price”

in 3 years time, who knows what the Glazers will want, who knows what INEOS position will be in 3 years time.

We’re doomed.
 
In before "this was how it was always going to be" posts start from the posters who were cock sure everything was sorted few days back.
 
Isn't Brailsford a cycling guy? What the hell experience does he have to gain a position like this at a football club? I thought Jim was saying he'd learnt from his initial mistakes at Nice in appointing the wrong people. Our only hope is that they find the right people under them to really run things and then stay the hell out of their way.
 
Unbelievable Jeff. They want sporting control buy with 'oversight' from Joel bloody Glazer? That's like me having oversight on a fashion parade. I know feck all about fashion and would only be there for the ogling, which would be about as much as Joel would offer here (although I guess it is still about figures, technically).

It makes sense that would be the only way the Glazers would allow some control, if they had a hand in it. Oversight can mean many things though. It doesn't necessarily mean direct intervention, it can just be to make sure things aren't going over budget. Still, safest to assume the worst.
 
It’s like losing a winning lotto ticket. The worst thing is Qatar will be back for one of our rivals while we struggle on under the stewardship of the most greedy and inept owners to grace the sport at this level. Such a shit show. Glazers snatching defeat from the jaws of victory as always. Their piggy bank limps on.
 
The Financial Times are reliable. Another key line from their reporting:

“The billionaire is hoping that becoming a minority shareholder will eventually open the door to a full takeover, the people added.”
Hoping? Only hoping…. Man
 
Isn't Brailsford a cycling guy? What the hell experience does he have to gain a position like this at a football club? I thought Jim was saying he'd learnt from his initial mistakes at Nice in appointing the wrong people. Our only hope is that they find the right people under them to really run things and then stay the hell out of their way.
People will point to Nice as proof of Ratcliffes failings in terms of putting the right structure in place, but what if we looked at it as an opportunity to make mistakes and then learn from them? We're already seeing signs of this with Nice, though very early to really judge but also with some of the snippets we are now hearing with regards to United.
Here we go.. :D:D
 
Bottom line is the Glazers are only driven out by full on fan revolt, which would never happen, or by the club falling out of Europe for a sustained period.

Rat is nothing more than a prospective short-term Glazer enabler/stooge/patsy. And if the deal goes through that's all he will ever be.
 
The Financial Times are reliable. Another key line from their reporting:

“The billionaire is hoping that becoming a minority shareholder will eventually open the door to a full takeover, the people added.”
So... There's not going to be a legally binding pathway to a full takeover? As the experts on here told us?
 
Unbelievable Jeff. They want sporting control buy with 'oversight' from Joel bloody Glazer? That's like me having oversight on a fashion parade. I know feck all about fashion and would only be there for the ogling, which would be about as much as Joel would offer here (although I guess it is still about figures, technically).

It makes sense that would be the only way the Glazers would allow some control, if they had a hand in it. Oversight can mean many things though. It doesn't necessarily mean direct intervention, it can just be to make sure things aren't going over budget. Still, safest to assume the worst.

Its going to mean exactly what we have today. Our issues have always been with Joel Glazers meddling in transfer and football matters. Everything having to be signed off by him first and him having opinions on players who should not be sold

Of course we have other issues but he us a major one
 
I don’t believe for a second these parasites will be taking a back seat and give INEOS full control of sporting matters, no chance. Especially with only a 25% stake.
 
Bottom line is the Glazers are only driven out by full on fan revolt, which would never happen, or by the club falling out of Europe for a sustained period.
That is where Sir Jim will step in and provide the correct PR.
 
I don’t believe for one second that Sir James Arthur Ratcliffe FIChemE will buy 100% of the club.

You may be right about that.

The Glazers' valuation may be prohibitive, to put it like that.

We've talked about this many times on here before, though: if it should turn out that the Glazers don't literally feck off from United, how bad would that be?

Surely, the main question is how much actual influence they would have.

In a scenario where Jim gains full control of the club, and actually does something positive (like implementing a new structure at United, employing better people in key positions, etc.), how important is it that the Glazers don't actually, literally feck off forever?

Ideally, they should feck off forever - I think we can all agree on that. They have been horrible owners in most ways (and most United fans hate them, for good reasons). But if they remain in a capacity that in practice only means they stand to make further money from United (without feckin' us over on the football side), surely there's a point where insisting on "no Glazers!" (for, say, emotional reasons) becomes counterproductive.
 
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No I think they turned their noses up because they didn’t offer enough money. But people seem to think they can decide what price is acceptable to another individual.

My point around politics was that negotiations from the outside seem to have been a lot more straightforward than with Qatar.

Sorry mate I still have no idea what you're trying to say, could be my fault.
 
But as utd7 pointed out below who else do you think will buy us if we're worth £8b+? The only bid for 100% has pulled out because the cnuts are taking the piss with the valuation and thought it was too much!

If an ultra wealthy middle eastern state won't pay more than £5 Billion for United now. Why would they want to pay £8+ Billion a few years from now?

You'd think they'd be falling over themselves to pay £6B now and save themselves a few quid.
 
That is where Sir Jim will step in and provide the correct PR.
It’s all a shit show.
Let’s say we believe Jim. If we believe the story of Qatar pissing off Joel and Avram by criticising their ownership of United then how can anything be revamped with that same thin skinned and Uber protective dickhead on the committee?
 
Hope the committee works on a voting system as Joel Glazer famously takes 150 years to vote on anything, hope he gets outvoted on every single decision while he’s still mulling it over.
 
Is everything alright?
Does seem like the 'deal' is not that done.

Probably until Mark Kleinman says something then it's not confirmed.




25% with footballing control likely means they have to restructure the shares. It's probably going to take a while to thrash that out.
 
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