Yeh exactly this. Didn’t realise that’s what he posted so fair play him getting suspended for that. If it was others have posted and getting banned it would’ve dissapointed me from our new owners.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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It's the Glazers. Endless and pointless dithering until everything good falls away and all you are left with is a turd sandwich, is just what they do. They never fail to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Me too but I was cautious enough to only tattoo it on my penis. Made the mistake of doing a Djemba-Djemba on my forehead.
Fool me once...
Augmented Reality
They are going to stick little cameras on players shirts, and people around the world will be able to be Marcus Rashford in an actual match and they will pay money for it. They have already trailed it in the US.
It will make the clubs a lot of money.
You have to burst someone's bubble didnt you?!!
Sir Jim Ratcliffe and his two partners in Ineos have a combined wealth of £43bn. I think they they are good for the money. And they were able to demonstrate this both in the Chelsea and MUFC bids.
The narrative has always been that Jassim has the money to blow everyone out else out of the water, when in reality, Ineos had more money.
Corporate purchases are invariably financed, even when the purchaser is cash rich. It's more tax efficient and profitable to leverage.
if there's a structured takeover - i.e. 25% now, with future staged equity purchases - say over the next 3/4 years - towards a total buy-out, then that makes perfect sense.
This is what is holding things up, the fine details still in the balance;
Extract : email from A Glazer to Sir Jim Ratcliffe
" Jimbo, my boy... why not make the bid, an even £2B... you know it makes sense, we guarantee IENOS hand cleansers in all club washroom dispencers"
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Corporate purchases are invariably financed, even when the purchaser is cash rich. It's more tax efficient and profitable to leverage.
Augmented reality I presume. VR
About as smart and prudent as signing (at the time) Schmeichel (35) on a three-year contract, Ramsey (31) and Barkley (28) on 1 year contracts each, at least Casemiro came with priceless experience and leadership attached.
Raising concern on a 30 year old serial winner while signing that dross does not give me hope at all in this takeover.
Also worth noting all 3 has since left the club too
If league 1 was being postponed for that reason then the state of international football would be very questionable!
Honestly, I was surprised. I guess you are getting the players from the far-flung footie nations plying their trade in that league. £2-3k a month will be big money in the likes of Tonga
I know that. It was you who said it was a cash purchase.
Maybe the failure of those players (that they seem to have acknowledged by moving them on) has helped them reach their conclusion on the Casemiro signing, whatever you may think of it?About as smart and prudent as signing (at the time) Schmeichel (35) on a three-year contract, Ramsey (31) and Barkley (28) on 1 year contracts each, at least Casemiro came with priceless experience and leadership attached.
Raising concern on a 30 year old serial winner while signing that dross does not give me hope at all in this takeover.
Also worth noting all 3 has since left the club too
As part of the due diligence, they had to prove that that had the cash in the bank to pay for everything. From what I have heard, Ineos had 4.5bn ringfenced for this project. Which is also what they had 'available' for the Chelsea deal.
Sheikh Jassim had access to 3bn, and the rest was down the back of the sofa.
This bothered me too. If the Casameiro signing is what bothers him about the way Utd is run then he's a little out of touch, reminds me of my elderly uncle who's always banging on about something or other that's irrelevant to everyday life.About as smart and prudent as signing (at the time) Schmeichel (35) on a three-year contract, Ramsey (31) and Barkley (28) on 1 year contracts each, at least Casemiro came with priceless experience and leadership attached.
Raising concern on a 30 year old serial winner while signing that dross does not give me hope at all in this takeover.
Also worth noting all 3 has since left the club too
Calling it: having watched the indecisive moron siblings, for past many years, it is very possible that Ratcliffe deal also falls apart and Glazers don't go through with it. The magnitude of their greed and idiocy is still not fully appreciated
Even now, at this stage, they'll be playing a game of brinksmanship, and hoping that for a shock 11th hour Qatari bid comes in.
Knowing their level of greed, I would not be surprised if they’re trying to raise the price for Jim now
If this happens it's time for scorched earth policy from us fans. Games would need to be abandoned,mega store closed, sponsors relentlessly bombarded with messages in no uncertain terms saying their products will be boycotted. Nothing good comes easy in life, time for the fans to earn our keep.
I'm not paying a single penny for anything below the standard of Star Trek holodecks.
VR in general is a bit shit, if you ask me. Or more shit than you'd expect in this day and age.
Ineos bought into Mercedes at the end of the 2020 season. A season in which Mercedes won both the drivers and constructers title. In 2021 they won the constructors and LH was the rightful driver's champion until deliberate foul play intervened.
Then the rules changed. Red Bull has done a better job than anyone else since (including exceeding the budget cap). Stop spouting rubbish.
Wow sounds like he’s definitely having a detrimental effect then? Thanks for the info.
Probably arranging for a trip to Paris to speak to the real man behind the Qatari Bid again, however my guess is they probably feel it’s best to review in 12 months and try and get a refinancing loan for £250-300m to ease the Cashflow situation within the next 12 months and again add more debt to the club but ultimately stay in control?
So if Jim changes the FA / UEFA rules you're telling me there's a chance?
Thanks for nothing Simon
No chance. There will be nothing on the table in 12 months. This sale process has proven that the pool of people who can buy MUFC at The Glazers valuation is miniscule. This is happening. INEOS are coming in and any delay will just be minor contractual tweaks or further discussions with minority shareholders.
The tech is probably in place already to do that. Not just stick a camera on him, but create some kind of virtual version of him that is 99,9% near to the real thing in real time (or at least "real time" as it would be perceived by the viewer/user).
To be clear, I'm not talking about a player cam. But rather the possibility of actually "being" Rashford through AR/VR: You see what he is seeing, not what the camera is seeing. Only you don't, of course, because you aren't actually Rashford. But the simulacrum is very close to reality.
Mercedes dominated F1 for nearly 10 years and in that time Ratcliffe was nowhere to be seen.
Yeah it is but (and do not get me wrong not saying I'm a fan of the Ineos bid) but the major difference between Ineos financing and the Glazers financing, is that Ineos have massive equity beyond the value of Man Utd, in theory they can meet the costs of any financing without impacting on the clubs finances (not saying they will) whereas the Glazers empire is comparatively small (total net worth of the family is estimated to be less than $5bn whereas Ineos is in excess of $45bn, Jim Ratclife is personally worth somewhere in excess of £20bn, reported figures for all these vary somewhat but the factors remain consistent), The Glazers have used Utd to finance everything they do, whereas that simply will not be the case for Ineos whose main business already generates something like 15 -20X the annual profit that Man utd does
I am not worried about the Ineos bid being financed, it is completely different, Ineos could buy Utd without financing but it would make no financial sense to do so.
What makes me what to shit through my mouth is that the Glazer's will still be here and I also begrudge them every single penny they squeeze out of the club
Everyone will be complaining their stream crashed, when in reality, he stood still the whole time.
At least the viewer won’t get motion sickness.
INEOS are a part owner and sponsor.
They are not involved in the day to day at Mercedes F1.
Not sure why this is even a conversation.
Jassim's bid if it wasn't state backed was always going to be based on borrowing. No one has the type of money to buy United sitting in a bank account.
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