We might have had bad patches in the past, but you knew the people running the us loved the club and their hearts were in the right place. The Glazers don't have hearts.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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So the Glazers strung along the sheikhs in order to bait their real target, Ratcliffe? I remember this theory being brought up as a joke because people were saying the opposite and that Sir Jim was being used to get a bigger offer, he should just walk away, qatar will just blow him out of the water etc
Well, at least Amnesty International will be happy or something.
Bow to your new/old overlords! Now with 25% more Jim.
The state of some of the absolute Glazer sympathizers on here is pathetic.
Can’t even compete in a 1 club league in France that would need very little investment to finish within the CL spots. His Swiss side has been relegated.
Fecked off by Chelsea and Barce, doesn’t have the funds needed to get us to the top and will keep the Glazers on for years.
Exciting times
So nothing changes as our club remains in the dark ages with no investments for the foreseable future with these parasites staying. God i hate the Glazers with a passion!
Remember when after the SuperLeague fiasco they crawled out of their hole in the ground to make all sort of promises how everything will change and they will be more engaged in communicate with the fans - i guess we now know that was just PR damage limitation. Nothing will ever change with these f... in charge!
Remember when after the SuperLeague fiasco they crawled out of their hole in the ground to make all sort of promises how everything will change and they will be more engaged in communicate with the fans - i guess we now know that was just PR damage limitation. Nothing will ever change with these f... in charge!
People are really jumping the gun assuming the Ineos bid won't have pre determined "put options" to guarantee full control by X date.
Maybe it won't but let's wait and see. The reports today said this is the start of a staged takeover process. If that's the case it's better than what we had.
Also the thought he isn't rich enough is crazy. Ineos are worth like 65 billion and are owned by 3 billionaires.
I wanted Qatar but won't be writing off Jim being a good potential owner from the get go. If this was the only way to get a deal done then so be it.
Maybe it won't but let's wait and see. The reports today said this is the start of a staged takeover process. If that's the case it's better than what we had.
Also the thought he isn't rich enough is crazy. Ineos are worth like 65 billion and are owned by 3 billionaires.
I wanted Qatar but won't be writing off Jim being a good potential owner from the get go. If this was the only way to get a deal done then so be it.
Oceans 3.
Not as long as you but I’ve supported the club for over 40yrs and unfortunately my health hasn’t been the best in recent years.
This news tonight has more or less confirmed to me that the chances of me ever seeing my club back at the top table again in my lifetime os more or less gone. I wish nothing but the worst for the Glazers and the rats who feed their greed.
Nothing about investing in the stadium, nothing about investing in training facilities. Nothing about clearing debt. Glazers staying.
I knew whatever happens, we'd get the worst outcome. United is cursed.
I knew whatever happens, we'd get the worst outcome. United is cursed.
Why are so many people assuming that Ineos won't end up having full ownership? Shouldn't we at least wait until the full details of their plan are made public to judge? From what's been reported, their bid includes a route to 100% ownership. Whether that route is binding or not varies from report to report, that's the only thing that worries me.
The way Qatar have operated during this entire process hasn't exactly been reassuring that they'd come in and be a super organised and well managed ownership. It's been really shambolic from every party involved.
Nice are still unbeaten in the French league.
INEOs have it sorted.
Nice to see you, to see you, nice.
But what about the narrative that Jim's clubs are a disaster??? For what it's worth, I've been pretty firm in my belief that an owners true influence takes about 5 years to actually start seeing the benefits of it. You might notice it before, but it takes a while to build clubs the way you want. Players make the most immediate impact, than coaching staff, than the sporting management team above the manager, but it all starts from the owners.Nice are still unbeaten in the French league.
INEOs have it sorted.
Anyone know the fate of Nice? He can’t own both Man Utd and Nice?
Utter shit show, they never had any intention of selling
Glazier and a minority stake by Ratcliffe is a disaster, will not change feck all
Glazier and a minority stake by Ratcliffe is a disaster, will not change feck all
That's true. We are a shambles anyway, so why not get more shambolic.
I don't understand the certainty people have in how one or the other would have run the club tbh.
Jassim has shown nothing to suggest he's competent at all. Not just in football but in anything.
Ratcliffe has, in business but does have a less impressive record in sport. Nothing to the disastrous level many predict will happen with United though and does also have many successes. He has experience if nothing else but tbh, United are a very different kettle of fish compared to Nice or a cycling team.
Exactly this. Not sure what's so hard to understand.
Fortunately he doesn't own both. And won't.
It's more fun to throw your toys out the pram because you couldn't get what you wanted (unlimited oil money cheat)
This 'jim rat boy' and 'brexit jim' name calling is puerile on a level with RAWK's 'Manure' name. That said, I am quite enjoying the hand-wringing hysteria of those that were just SO DESPERATE for that sweet, sweet state money. Delighted Qatar are out
Jassim final bid reported to be $6.5b plus
Jim's birthday is Wednesday, so this is a lovely present for him.
Same. Happy days.
So how can Ratcliffe make a deal with them which if you believe some reports looks like 25% now, some assurances on what aspects of the club he can control immediately and options for a full buy-out in three years? We can say a lot about Ratcliffe but he is not a complete idiot in his businesses.
Agreed. That's why i don't understand why anyone would assume definite success under Qatar. They seem completely amateur.
When you guys are proven wrong in the future, I hope you'll acknowledge how bad your takes were on this whole situation.
I'll do the same if Jimmy lad really is just a "7th Glazer" and things won't get better for United...but that's fortunately so much more unlikely than your predictions.
Qatar failing or Glazers still in charge is not something to be hapoy about. I would have been even ok had ratcliffe bought the club completely. Today isn't a day to celebrate, in fact another day which has ruined our weekend.
Well it's wrong for a start. By all accounts Ineos' bid values the club higher than the Qatar bid.
Exact message I received on WhatsApp from Arsenal and Liverpool fans
So you’ve looked at his history with football clubs and come to that conclusion? His bid which keeps the glazers/arnold/Murtough here and are like ‘yeah I want a bit of that’
Well Done
I think it is time to get games cancelled. So far, getting games cancelled have made those parasites come out in 2021.
Unfortunately, the rules around mutli-club ownership seem pretty dodgy and easy to circumvent. Brighton's owner just handed off his shares in Belgian club USG to an associate when they both qualified for the Europa. Similarly, Red Bull get away with owning both Salzburg and Leipzig with bullshit back office musical chair shenanigans. Newcastle and Sheffield United are both essentially owned by the Saudi royal family.
The whole thing stinks and it'll be likely be very easy to get around.
I wonder if they'll be laughing when they realize United has just become as rich as those 2 clubs combined with an owner that's likely going to burn hundreds of millions of pounds just to get his boyhood club back to the top of English and European football once again.
Sure you guys will. The excuse after 2-3 years will become “ahh he’s only 25% owner what’s he supposed to do” or “25 years of glazers ownership he can’t change it in 3 years”
This is how I see it as well. If they had these big plans for 1.5 to 2 billion to invest in the club they could have upped their bid, otherwise all their plans are just useless and some easy promises to have the fans support them.
Great stuff. Happy birthday to our Jim.
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