Infestissumam
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good. Feck oil money.
The problem is that the Glazers have valued us so high that even Qatar don’t want to pay it and they have unlimited funds. So what choices do we have?Qatar off to purchase another English club then? Will we be able to compete against unlimited money from another team even if we do eventually get rid of the Glazers?
I’ve seen solid arguments suggesting that our commercial might means we don’t need to be bankrolled. It just takes us being run better. But are we confident INEOS can provide that leadership? They don’t seem to be doing a good job at Nice and by all reports the men they have in place aren’t football guys either.
Completely agreeGlad that's happened. We're still left with two pretty shit options, but at least the most shit option is off the table.
@Berbaclass could you repost? Went back a couple.of pages and couldn't see itLink has been posted in here by @Berbaclass
Let's hope he doesn't die before he can purchase the rest of the shares.Wonder which PL club they'll buy instead?
On us, the Glazers are here to stay. This was the only option that was a clean exit.
A minority, or a minority to majority, will be more drawn out and protracted then this process.
7bn bid with another 1.5bn to follow into the club was a serious serious bid. I didnt went it, but cmonLooks like the Sheikh wasn't as seriously invested in us as we thought
US dollars. So £5.77bnThey turned down 7bn? Jesus christ
Imagine Sur Jim cacks it before then. Stuck with the glazers foreverIneos will own 100% of the club eventually. Folk should be happy, but people don't have the patience for that. Being flexible/creative was the order of the day and Qatar were not prepared to bend.
@Berbaclass could you repost? Went back a couple.of pages and couldn't see it
**__Daily Muppet 13/10/23__**
*INEOS Offer*
- New discussions over the last few weeks.
- Orny & Bloomberg both stated that INEOS are in the lead over the last few days.
- INEOS want 100% of the club. (Not _just_ the Glazers shares).
- The aim was to buy out Glazers and then in the long term get those other shares.
- INEOS feel they have had a broad agreement with the Glazers for around 5 months & that it's higher than the Qatari valuation.
- However, they have had to get creative with the structure of that bid.
- There has been in person discussions over the last week.
- INEOS feel they have a viable offer on the table for the club that is acceptable for the Glazers & meets their valuation.
- It is an initial 25% offer, however, it does include route to, not just majority control, but 100% control.
- There are multiple options of how INEOS gets to that 100%.
- But this offer would be done with stipulated options in place to ensure INEOS will complete a complete 100% takeover.
- There will also be stipulations over control of certain aspects of the club. eg: Money put into the club to cover _whatever_ will indeed cover what that money has been put into.
- Simply an alternative route to 100% ownership.
- INEOS do not want a share of the club that they can then flip.
*What next?*
- INEOS will present this formally.
- We are getting to the point where the board could vote on this offer.
*Timeline?*
- Won't take that long. Potentially a few weeks or a month.
- Unsure if this would be public.
- If this isn't accepted, James believes we will just enter a dead end.
*Locker Room*
- Some players do believe there is favouritism within the squad.
- Most players, however, have remained professional.
- There are players who have raised their concern, but it's nothing unusual within a Football Club.
*Targets*
- Inácio.
- Looking at both LCB & RCB & a Case replacement.
- Looking at wingers as well after offloading Sancho.
- Won't spend big in Jan.
We’d be owned by INEOS, not Ratcliffe himselfImagine Sur Jim cacks it before then. Stuck with the glazers forever
They are greedy vermin. They have invested zilch. It was their dad who bought us with next to no investment.US dollars. So £5.77bn
I know it's dollars. It's double the US dollar valuationUS dollars. So £5.77bn
Qatar for all their PR and bluster clearly didn’t want the club that much
I'm not sure how they forsee the future but I can't envisage a scenario where they end up pocketing more money than what they've turned down hereThey are greedy vermin. They have invested zilch. It was their dad who bought us with next to no investment.
They’re done mate.Could this be a final tactic move from Qatar to get the Glazers going or was this the last we saw from the Sheikh? What do we think?
Not sure it’ll come tbh. Hope so but fans didn’t seem too bothered, outside the odd march and chant.Worst case scenario, hope the protests are as big as they can get.
Ineos will own 100% of the club eventually. Folk should be happy, but people don't have the patience for that. Being flexible/creative was the order of the day and Qatar were not prepared to bend.
That is saying whoever is left if he pops his clogs actually wants to own United. He is the big boss. Doesn't mean the others will feel the same with him gone.We’d be owned by INEOS, not Ratcliffe himself