Same. She's now my ex wife.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Why did I read this like you and the original poster were talking about the same woman?
Wtf is this? Please, no.
More like it. More befitting for this thread.
2014 the year I joined Redcafe... 9 long years.
It's interesting to look at everything from the perspective of Avram & Joel (which isn't particularly difficult - as you can see from this interview, Avram for instance is not exactly an IQ monster).
Back last November when the potential sale was first announced, there were a few key circumstances that are no longer the case today:
- Manchester United were out of the Champions League spots in the Premier League, having already failed to qualify for the Champions League the previous season
- Owner-backed Premier League clubs such as Manchester City & Newcastle United appeared relatively unimpeded by Premier League FFP rules
- There was a widespread feeling amongst financial circles that the Premier League's television income may have peaked
Therefore, whilst last November Joel & Avram may well have determined that the value of Manchester United was likely to depreciate due to declining revenues & increased competition - meaning it was a good time for them to jump ship - they now probably conclude the opposite.
The huge irony in this is of course is that if Manchester United's sporting performance drops again next season, that could be a very persuasive factor towards Avram & Joel deciding to sell up after all.
Agree with most of this - but they still have one major problem. Utd needs massive investment off the pitch, and the Glazer’s are not known for spending their own money. Increased TV revenue and Sponsorship is not going to cover the spend that is needed, and the club cannot take a loan of the magnitude required onto the books. They are still staring into a black hole, without further funding, unless they intend the club to rot.
fecking state of this cnut… GET OUT you dozy prick!
Still 798(!) pages behind the Donald Trump thread.
I don't think we'll get there to be honest. This is feeling more and more like the Glazers were only trying to raise some cash rather than necessarily outright getting rid of the club.
My guess is that the process will end with them selling off a chunk of shares to some US investment banks, and then this thread getting locked after another couple of hundred pages.
I don't think we'll get there to be honest. This is feeling more and more like the Glazers were only trying to raise some cash rather than necessarily outright getting rid of the club.
My guess is that the process will end with them selling off a chunk of shares to some US investment banks, and then this thread getting locked after another couple of hundred pages.
Only 8 more pages to go and the page count goes beyond the year this thread was started and we start predicting future events.
I'm expecting something akin to the Y2K meltdown.
I'm expecting something akin to the Y2K meltdown.
These are some cogent points which are going amiss in all the battle. Fair play.
Managing their debt is their only outside challenge.
Old Trafford is not 'state of the art' but it does not particularly require too much past simple regeneration. It is a 70k plus arena which usually sells as many tickets. Any regeneration can be done gradually. Ditto training facilities.
Ratcliffe shifting the debt onto Ineos works for them. Qatar's state bid will of course obviate debt outright, but the Glazers will want a chunk of that for themselves, which means Sugar Baby will have to convince Sugar Daddy for more sweeties.
That just demonstrated how poor their decision making is. It is short term structured and it is that way of thinking that has created such a mess. United were in a decent position just before the World Cup to qualify for the Champions League .Liverpool were poor and in dire need of a central midfield, I did not expect them to co e back into top 4 reckoning. Chelsea were even worse and everyone bar Brighton fans were making excuses for Potter to remain as coach. Then Newcaslte were there and everyone thought they would fall off, but they did not.
All in all United were in a positive position going into the break with people thinking Gakpo would be signed and if Martial would stayed fit, top 4 was easily achievable. So much so, Gary Neville changed his mind after October.
All this Glazer thinking, that they should hang on because there is a top 5 place available and a FIFA world club cup.a new TV deal is just a complete facade of an excuse to stay, should they do so. Those things have been in place ( or at least some of things have) for a while.
The sponsorship deal with Adidas is another thing that is thrown out there. This is something that has been accomplished under their tenure before. Yes, it may be positive, but show the supporters, coaching staff and employees that we are looking at renovating the stadium and innovating the facilities. Trying to be more proactive and forward thinking, so we can attract the best players with our infrastructure.
Sponsorship deals are just pound or dollar signs in the Glazer eyes. It is not going to help us come back from the wilderness. A frightening thought is that if Man City win next season's Champions League, they are only 1 behind us. If Chelsea win it again in the near future, they are equal. That is how bad standards have slipped on the field.
The club needs new custodians and a new energy, vibe and progressive attitude to build upon what Ten Hag and indeed Marc Skinner has managed to achieve last season.
Yeah leeching fecker has played us like a fiddle
I joined 7 years ago, and i'm not even worthy enough of a tagline
Be careful what you wish for...
‘not even worthy enough of a tagline’ should be your tagline.
If I could make it so, I would.
Alas, I am but a lowly commoner on here.
Very harsh on the shrivelled up bollock community.
Speak for yourself matey!
With the trend of players signing for the Saudi league. It would be funny if the Jessim pulls out of the deal to buy us and use the money to invest in their own league to rival that of Saudi. Maybe have Emirates Champions League going.
Glazers losing potential money.
Glazers losing potential money.
Some noise today in the media.
That's actually a good idea. Someone start a 24/25 season future prediction thread. E.G. Luke Shaw to stub his toe in warm up against Newcastle in September, becoming injured, and remaining so until August 2026.
Interesting thanks for sharing
What noise exactly?
Is it white noise?
Well tell them to be quiet.
That comes right from the heart of the sales process. Though the name Moi Raine is a bit on the nose.
I'll be more concerned about who they're selling to.
Other than that, no information provided save to correct misinformation regarding investment. We know they'll announce matter through the stock exchange and are bound by NDA.
Shame really. I want to know who it is I'll
be angry with next season. Hopefully an announcement will come soon. I can't see past Qatar winning with their state bid unless Lord Brexit can come up with serious cash (he can't).
Never one to shy away from the gritty details and very specific news…
What do you get if you cross Moira Stewart and the Raine group…?
Moiraine.
A walking behemoth of news.
Full write-up of the tweet. It was from June 28th Fan Forum, so while an update, it is over a month old
https://assets.manutd.com/AssetPick...um_June_2023_-_Final_Minutes1689340653388.pdf
Agreed, that’s why I think Avram & Joel have a strong preference for Ratcliffe’s deal which will bring in the investment you mention, whilst also enabling them to keep their shares. Hence a current impasse with the other Glazers and minority shareholders, who likely prefer Jassim’s bid.
That was the Glazers' failed plan earlier last year before resorting to this current process. There’s also been no indication during this process that minority bids have been favoured above the two majority bids – quite the opposite in fact.
I think if selling a minority stake and/or taking out a loan was financially feasible (i.e. the level of capital required at a sustainable rate) then the Glazers would have already done this.
It is the ever increasing debt burden on the club which will probably persuade them to finally sell, there is no real long-term alternative.
Well, there is.
Ineos will move the debt onto themselves and manage it through their assets. The gruesome twosome can stay on board and milk the gravy train, so.
They don't want to miss out on future wealth.
When that actually happens is anyone's guess
INEOS haven’t said they will move the debt burden to themselves. They said the new debt used to buy the club will be leveraged on INEOS not MUFC. Massive difference.
That's exactly how Nazi Germany started after Skynet became self-aware and invented time travel.
How many of these so-called "members" are actually AI bots?
Personally, I wouldn't risk it. Close the thread.
Me neither. Earlier calls of "close thread" were rightly met with derision but now it's squeaky bum time.
Yeah nothing is happening
Is this thread moribund?
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