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It was trending on Twitter that Qatar-Liverpool was the done deal.
Looks like we’ll get another bunch of leeches if true-maybe a worse one
Why wouldn't we get someone like Dubai?
It was trending on Twitter that Qatar-Liverpool was the done deal.
Looks like we’ll get another bunch of leeches if true-maybe a worse one
not entirely sure about clubs, but most companies are sold based on a multiple of their EIBITDA. Normally this can be 5-10 times but in exceptional cases more.How is a club's value determined? Is it just a case of supply and demand? How is it possible that a club like Liverpool is being sold for £3bn and United, with all its developmental requirements, for more than double that?
How is a club's value determined? Is it just a case of supply and demand? How is it possible that a club like Liverpool is being sold for £3bn and United, with all its developmental requirements, for more than double that?
Why do Primark sell dresses at £15 and Versace sell dresses at £15,000?How is a club's value determined? Is it just a case of supply and demand? How is it possible that a club like Liverpool is being sold for £3bn and United, with all its developmental requirements, for more than double that?
Why do Primark sell dresses at £15 and Versace sell dresses at £15,000?
And that's worth £3bn?one reason is United has more fans
Imagine the wives of these billionaires asking their husbands to pick up some milk down the shop, only for them to buy a football club, completely forgetting the milk.
And that's worth £3bn?
Isn’t that shit for them?Talkshite reporting on minority investment from Qatar for Liverpool.
Interesting
Depends how you look at it.Isn’t that shit for them?
Value would be based on a lot of things like assets, stadium, social media presence, debt, EIBITDA, their amount of sponsors, presence around the continents and, most importantly, cash flow.And that's worth £3bn?
Yeah but they can’t take over Liverpool while owning PSG so it’ll only ever be a minority stake. They still keep FSG who won’t put any money in while there has to be a natural limit to how much Qatar puts in themselves.Depends how you look at it.
Qatar probably morally terrible owners on one hand.
Liverpool always were looking for investment not a whole sale but a minority takeover will probably lead to a full takeover.
In this instance I would say we can rule out Qatar unless they have another consortium available to buy us.
Who says this is happening?We are not worth 7billion and the Glazers are delusional if they think they can flog us for that much. It's putting off potential buyers.
Yeah but they can’t take over Liverpool while owning PSG so it’ll only ever be a minority stake. They still keep FSG who won’t put any money in while there has to be a natural limit to how much Qatar puts in themselves.
If Liverpool fans do get excited about a taste of ME money then Qatar being a minority stake keeps the potential full takeover of that nature from happening.
Seems like a halfway house. I’d be raging if this happened with the Glazers
Liverpool fans hate FSG and their transfer policy / under investment.FSG aren't the Glazers though. They know how to run a club and they are genuinely invested in it
I think the Qataris will end up chucking PSG in the bin. Even signing the best players in the World they have obviously realised that the interest isn't there and it's difficult to build a CL winning squad in France where there are no competitive matches to keep the players sharp. A sportswashing project with United or Liverpool is on a different planet, you can go anywhere in the World and people know these clubs.Yeah but they can’t take over Liverpool while owning PSG so it’ll only ever be a minority stake. They still keep FSG who won’t put any money in while there has to be a natural limit to how much Qatar puts in themselves.
If Liverpool fans do get excited about a taste of ME money then Qatar being a minority stake keeps the potential full takeover of that nature from happening.
Seems like a halfway house. I’d be raging if this happened with the Glazers
It’s not Qatar state , it’s said to be a Qatar backed consortium. Big difference with no ownership ties to PSGYeah but they can’t take over Liverpool while owning PSG so it’ll only ever be a minority stake. They still keep FSG who won’t put any money in while there has to be a natural limit to how much Qatar puts in themselves.
If Liverpool fans do get excited about a taste of ME money then Qatar being a minority stake keeps the potential full takeover of that nature from happening.
Seems like a halfway house. I’d be raging if this happened with the Glazers
Liverpool fans hate FSG and their transfer policy / under investment.
Anyone know anything about this guy?
I recognise his name and I have him blocked. Which means I realised he was a BS account somewhere along the way
Although I do think Dubai will be one of the bidders
Anyone know anything about this guy?
Anyone know anything about this guy?
Something to keep in mind: a “good deal” is a very subjective matter. What someone at United now thinks is a good deal could be paltry, not properly image oriented, or simply a poor relationship to the new buyers.
You want to have them as few entanglements as possible.
One of the things that made Chelsea so easy to sell was that aside from complete debt forgiveness they were wiped clean to the point they barely had toilet paper in the building.
Clearlake probably would have liked to select the shirt sponsor as well if given the choice.
Raine is VERY good at matching up people and n terms of their adequacy to the task of ownership. If the Glazers and the different United groups would just say “get us a ton of money and the best possible owners” …. They would do a good job.
They he only caveat in this is that they work under the criteria given to them. So… if they are told “biggest check wins” … that’s what they’ll do (simplified example).
If the Glazers do the right thing and tell them to heavily consider multiple criteria like dedication to future investment in the club, commitment to the club on competitive levels, erasing current debt and structuring all future debt in a way the doesn’t hamper club business… that would be ideal.
If I were a United fan that would be the campaign I would be waging right now; not that the owners come from certain countries, or that they made their money in soy beans instead of oil.
Demand, for all they’ve taken from you, and all they WILL make from this sale, that the least they owe you is finding super rich buyers dedicated to making United the premiere team on the planet and will settle for nothing less.
Nobody but the Glazers has any say, and it will be 'biggest cheque wins', the rest is irrelevant in terms of who might own us. Sad, but that's the reality.Something to keep in mind: a “good deal” is a very subjective matter. What someone at United now thinks is a good deal could be paltry, not properly image oriented, or simply a poor relationship to the new buyers.
You want to have them as few entanglements as possible.
One of the things that made Chelsea so easy to sell was that aside from complete debt forgiveness they were wiped clean to the point they barely had toilet paper in the building.
Clearlake probably would have liked to select the shirt sponsor as well if given the choice.
Raine is VERY good at matching up people and n terms of their adequacy to the task of ownership. If the Glazers and the different United groups would just say “get us a ton of money and the best possible owners” …. They would do a good job.
They he only caveat in this is that they work under the criteria given to them. So… if they are told “biggest check wins” … that’s what they’ll do (simplified example).
If the Glazers do the right thing and tell them to heavily consider multiple criteria like dedication to future investment in the club, commitment to the club on competitive levels, erasing current debt and structuring all future debt in a way the doesn’t hamper club business… that would be ideal.
If I were a United fan that would be the campaign I would be waging right now; not that the owners come from certain countries, or that they made their money in soy beans instead of oil.
Demand, for all they’ve taken from you, and all they WILL make from this sale, that the least they owe you is finding super rich buyers dedicated to making United the premiere team on the planet and will settle for nothing less.
We are ending with a US consortium aren't we?
I am in no doubt that the Glazer's number one priority will be to make as much money as they can, will not matter who or where from.Almost sure of it. And probably not good ones either. After the initial optimism (And I am still glad we will hopefully get rid of the Glazers), I can't help but feel like we will end up with owners who are not much better than them.
I agree with the first part. As for the second part, they are businessmen and frankly they won't go so far as to feck over the club which will probably make them billions.I am in no doubt that the Glazer's number one priority will be to make as much money as they can, will not matter who or where from.
As a bonus to that I am sure that given several similar options they would take the deal which is worst for the club out of spite.
Anyone know anything about this guy?
We are ending with a US consortium aren't we?
I sincerely hope not, but it's what I fully expect. It will be one of those that failed to get Chelsea.
Anyone know anything about this guy?
Anyone know anything about this guy?