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Yeah, we jusg have different standards of acceptability. It's why I usually don't engage, up to the point you call me disingenuous.
Well yes, I wouldn't pretend to argue differently. Although I'm not sure how blatant racism relates to financing structures and bank involvement?
The club is being brought up as a going concern. Any transactions going forward should be rubber-stamped by the outgoing owners. Obviously, stands to reason the debts incurred from transfers will be put on the club. The new owners take on the asset (new players).
Interesting. I’m always banging on about how people are too lazy to read articles linked on Twitter and are suckers for reacting to the attention grabbing headline, rather than the article itself. The paywall complicates matters though.
So someone who hires racists and runs football clubs badly is our best option? Wonderful.
I'd say above 30 as if it's true Qatar's bid is accepted then they value those shares at $35 dollars per share and will have an agreement to buy those shares at that price.
How could he improve? Offer the Glazers more shares? Buy out those not wanting to stay on then split their shares between those wanting to stay?
I'm not clued up on his deal, so I don't know how he could improve it. Would he just Offer more per Glazer share? How would that affect A share holders?
The Athletic have campaigned so hard against Qatar they would say Ratcliffe was a better fit no matter what he said or did.
IMO the British journalists aren’t so much championing SJR but they are getting their information from him so obviously are playing their part for their access and throwing him some nice lines.
What this means though is that all their information is coming from one side and all they can do is infer.
For example:
If Jim says he hasn’t been told negotiations have concluded and he has not won then they can infer that Qatar have not yet won the bid and gone into exclusive period.
We could really do with some clarification on the actual timetable of how long it will take after winner is named. Like you say one source is saying 8-12 weeks yet another is saying it will progress quite quickly.
No, it is a standard provision in M&A. If, for example, the Qatari bid is granted exclusivity, it means that the Qataris and the Glazers can enter into focused negotiations without the competitive pressure of the bidding process. Typically, there will be extensive due diligence during this period, which is time consuming and expensive for both parties - the exclusivity period would offer the Qataris some protection by ensuring that the Glazers do not terminate discussions prematurely or seek alternative buyers.
Yeah they will spin it to make him look good
RMC?
It seems Reuters are getting their info from Raine/Glazers rather than the Qatar side. AFP reporting that Jassim is unaware of the content in the Reuters article suggest as much.
They are though.. been saying he is front runner etc.. when there is no evidence of anyone being a front runner. Its changing by the day.
Obviously, British journalists would champion SJR as they would be able to get information and better sources if a British company takes over compare to Qatari where they do not have the same level of sources or pull.
Yeah agreed, not sure what their play is but they must have their reasons.
Crafton in particular despises the Qatar bid. Which is fine, he is allowed an opinion but let's not pretend any of his conclusions he writes on who is the best fit for United are anything close to objective
Surely the Raine/Glazers side is quite solid
Yup, people need to read between the lines a bit. No way Rio comes out with what he said unless he's sure of his source - and then Reuters shortly after reporting is very significant. I'd be very very surprised if Qatar isn't announced shortly.
Depends why they have put the story out and what they want to gain from it
We don't have enough information to go on. How much due diligence has already occurred? How long will it take the relevant football authorities to approve the new owner? I did see a few reports yesterday citing 8-12 weeks, which means the Glazers will still be there at the start of next season.
None of us know the full details of the offer so none of us can anserr your questions. As for A share holders, they will take legal action if he wins regardless.
Giggs, Becks, Nevilles, Butt and Scholes will be well proud of the company name. Chests will be puffed if Jassim pulls this through.
Just bought a share so ready to sue Sir Jim if he wins.
Hopefully they swallow some serious humble pie in the presser IF he is successful
I believe everything our Shwarma guy tells me. He makes my shwarma ffs.
Depends where some of us work.... I work in a place that has a lot of info and can ask but still wouldn't be as close to him as he can just ring up people and get higher up the chain
Come on Ratcliffe drop out of the race so Jassim can officially negotiate for exclusivity
No movement today, Glazers don't work Fridays.
What is equally baffling is that there is a new part to the process called 'the negotiating to enter into the exclusivity agreement stage'.
What is apparant is that nobody knows what is going on and everything seems to be made up off the hoof, it's not the journalists fault it is simply that the whole process has been shambolic with the underlying current being that more money changes everything.
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Exactly, nothing has changed apart from the PR overdrive from Qatar. We are probably the main football news outside of transfers, now that the league is finished.
We now get to witness the masterclass of client journalism in the UK (Ineos). I’d wager anything French is the same, but for Qatar.
I genuinely still think the Glazers could rug pull the whole thing and remain entirely. Ride out the summer with minimal transfers (cos “takeover”), then back track on the whole thing once the window slams shut. They are the worst.
No offence taken. You do mistunderstand me, though - I am not seeking to play a game, just simply saying that getting too caught up in reports of confidence on the Qatari side, whilst ignoring almost identical reports from the Ineos side, results in a distorted picture of what is actually happening here. The weight of social media (including the caf) is clearly behind the Qatari bid, though, so nobody wants to hear that Ineos think nothing has changed in the last few days and are still confident of prevailing. That's fine.
Darcie’s got Soul Cycle.
Joel and Ratcliffe will fight on til the bitter end.
Unsure equals problematic.
I don't want to discuss people's morals but to me this world view and approach leads to isolation, extremism and overall no progress or even regression. In the end, everyone digs in and no one moves closer to each other.
If everyone took this standpoint at any point in history, nothing ever would have changed because most big (or even small) change at state level takes time, effort and just stupid hard work.
But back to the topic, seems like we have some hope for resolution soon if Qatar can pressure these rats to give them exclusivity and we have, at least unofficially, an owner.
It's not baffling it's a normal stage as an example here you have the same stage for the Washington Commanders.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/05/12/josh-harris-dan-snyder-commanders-deal/
Does seem to be a generally quiet day
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