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Where is this information about the club being unable to trace his background?

Referenced in video posted on page 1508 when Stretford Paddock did interview with Kieran Maguire. Remember it has been touted before about uncertainty of funds source.
 
He is not considered part of the Royal family, specially after his dad was removed from the state 10 years ago.

I have no doubt hes real, I dont see why people want to see his ID or birth certificate or something but don't need to see SJRs.

Just a western thing I guess
 
Only the glazers could make selling United even more of a disaster than owning United.
 
It is true that our stock hasn't been this low since last November. The price is obviously going to move based on speculation by market makers (some of which is based on inside information as to where the Glazers are leaning). Whether or not we end up being sold to Qatar or INEOS is anyone's guess.
The bolded part is where our opinions differ. In my view, I believe the volatility has been a function of the circumstances rather than inside information.

  • Very small float for a company of this size.
  • Being a Class A shareholder is not very appealing outside of a full takeover.
  • High ceiling, low floor depending on the outcome.
  • The media coverage of this process has resembled that of a transfer saga, rather than a plc seeking investment.
 
Referenced in video posted on page 1508 when Stretford Paddock did interview with Kieran Maguire. Remember it has been touted before about uncertainty of funds source.

So it's not from the club, come on you can do better than that..
 
I have no doubt hes real, I dont see why people want to see his ID or birth certificate or something but don't need to see SJRs.

Just a western thing I guess

Maybe because one bloke has been in the public eye in the UK for years, and the other one has the same 2 or 3 photos on every news story about him because that's all that exists?
 
The bolded part is where our opinions differ. In my view, I believe the volatility has been a function of the circumstances rather than inside information.
  • The media coverage of this process has resembled that of a transfer saga, rather than a plc seeking investment.

That's correct. And the stock price has reflected market perceptions of what was about to transpire. Each time it peaked above 26 was immediately following news and sentiment that Qatar was going to be successful in buying the club. Each time it fell was surrounding sentiment either of the other three scenarios may happen (INEOS or INEOS plus Glazers or Glazers don't sell at all)
 
Nasdaq-listed BREA Plans to Meet NYSE-listed Man Utd to Discuss Brera’s ‘Social Impact Football’ Business Model and Other Value-Building Strategies
NEW YORK, MANCHESTER, MILAN and DUBLIN, June 06, 2023 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Brera Holdings PLC (Nasdaq: BREA) (“Brera Holdings” or the “Company”) today announced that it has made a strategic investment in Manchester United PLC (NYSE: Man Utd) (“Man Utd”) and invited the Man Utd board to a briefing on Brera’s innovative “Social Impact Football” business model and other value-building strategies. Although Man Utd’s market capitalization on the New York Stock Exchange is approximately $3 billion, according to the Financial Times, the price range for a pending sale of Man Utd, the holding company of Manchester United Football Club (“United”), could exceed $6 billion.

“We believe that our strategic investment in Man Utd at this time has potential for value creation and eventual realization, and we look forward to briefing their board on ways to achieve that,” said Brera Holdings CEO, Sergio Scalpelli. “As owners of ‘The Third Team of Milan’ Brera FC, we have seen how an innovative business model, our Nasdaq IPO, and a social impact focus can not only capture attention but also lead to international expansion, diversification, and growth opportunities,” Scalpelli continued.

Beginning last week, BREA began acquiring Man Utd shares through open market purchases, which now exceed $100,000, according to Brera Holdings Executive Chairman, Dan McClory. BREA intends to provide updates on its strategic stake in Man Utd, including United’s performance and its owner’s sale process.

While United recently finished its English Premier League season in third place to qualify once again for the Champions League, Brera Holdings announced that Brera FC had advanced to the FENIX Trophy semifinals being held this week in Milan. BBC Sport called the FENIX Trophy tournament the “Champions League for Amateurs” in its coverage of the tournament last year. Brera FC was named the “Social Impact Soccer Team of 2022” by the US-based Internet Marketing Association.

ABOUT BRERA HOLDINGS PLC:

Brera Holdings PLC is a Nasdaq-listed (Stock Ticker: BREA) Irish holding company focused on expanding social impact football (American soccer) by developing a global portfolio of emerging football and sports clubs with increased opportunities to earn tournament prizes, gain sponsorships, and provide other professional football- and sports-related consulting services. The Company seeks to build on the legacy and brand of Brera FC, the first football club that was acquired by the Company in 2022. Brera FC, known as “The Third Team of Milan,” is an amateur football association which has been building an alternative football legacy since its founding in 2000. In March 2023, the Company expanded to Africa with the establishment of Brera Tchumene, a team admitted to the Second Division Championship in Mozambique, a country of nearly 32 million people. In April 2023, the Company completed its 90%-acquisition of the European first division football team Fudbalski Klub Akademija Pandev in North Macedonia, a country which has the right to participate in two major UEFA competitions. The Company is focused on bottom-up value creation from sports clubs and talent outside mainstream markets, innovation-powered business growth, and socially-impactful outcomes. See www.breraholdings.com

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/brera-holdings-plc-acquires-strategic-120000572.html
 
That's correct. And the stock price has reflected market perceptions of what was about to transpire. Each time it peaked above 26 was immediately following news and sentiment that Qatar was going to be successful in buying the club. Each time it fell was surrounding sentiment either of the other three scenarios may happen (INEOS or INEOS plus Glazers or Glazers don't sell at all)
I think the stock market has reflected the PR game. Ratcliffe seems to be on top of things these last couple of weeks, whereas Jassim's gang have gone quiet.
 
That's correct. And the stock price has reflected market perceptions of what was about to transpire. Each time it peaked above 26 was immediately following news and sentiment that Qatar was going to be successful in buying the club. Each time it fell was surrounding sentiment either of the other three scenarios may happen (INEOS or INEOS plus Glazers or Glazers don't sell at all)
Yes, as would be expected, and my take is that these perceptions simply follow the media coverage, a lot of which has been drivel (i.e. "Mark Ogden says Joel and Avram are reluctant to sell to anyone." Shares down 5%). I have not seen anything to suggest the activity is a precursor to anything. From memory, the only news throughout this entire saga I would actually consider meaningful has been:

  • Qatari consortium bidding for 100%.
  • INEOS bidding for 69%.
  • INEOS offering a bid for control now, but less than a full Glazer buyout immediately.
  • INEOS offer values the club higher than Qatari offer.
Now, think about all the other stupidity that has been written by journalists between November and now. Had this been covered like a normal company and they announced the exploration of strategic alternatives, this would not have happened. As far as the actual negotiations are concerned, the press have acted as a mouthpiece for Raine in the hopes of fishing out higher bids. The press are happy to oblige because Manchester United = clicks. This has been a great disservice to the supporters, not that anyone involved cares.
 
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That’s not how it works as it’s all dependant on the share holding agreement. My original point is I’d be interested to know what SJR would be proposing in the agreement. You certainly can’t make the shareholders on the stock market invest pro-rata.
No, of course. But if the Glazer’s keep B shares - and why wouldn’t they - then they should chip in pro-rata to SJR. That’s why I think his deal will be difficult.
 
I think the stock market has reflected the PR game. Ratcliffe seems to be on top of things these last couple of weeks, whereas Jassim's gang have gone quiet.

Jassim’s gang have been quiet the whole time… now they’ve gone SILENT.

Whether that’s ‘silent domination’, or the silence of failure is what remains to be seen…
 
Apparently suspicions were first raised about the credibility of Jassim as a bidder when the Raine Group were told they would need to create a ChatGPT account in order to communicate with him.
 
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Jassim’s gang have been quiet the whole time… now they’ve gone SILENT.

Whether that’s ‘silent domination’, or the silence of failure is the question…

They kept on feeding Keegan but there's not much thesedays. Either it'll get sorted out at the end of this week, or it won't till later on. IMO. That's my two penneth.
 
Warning, you may not like but you can swallow the bitter pill now or later. Yasir Al-Rumayyan in 24 months has bought Newcastle and taken over Golf none of this is going to end well folks.
 
Referenced in video posted on page 1508 when Stretford Paddock did interview with Kieran Maguire. Remember it has been touted before about uncertainty of funds source.
Its a qatari state funded bid and because of PSG they have put a quango company and figurehead up to say its different. In fact its documented the Emir is a Utd fan.
 
They kept on feeding Keegan but there's not much thesedays. Either it'll get sorted out at the end of this week, or it won't till later on. IMO. That's my two penneth.

I’ve been thinking about it and I reckon, whoever takes over, it’ll be announced in the wake of City’s CL win…

If it’s Qatar, they will want to immediately trump City’s achievement by overriding them in the sports news.

Imagine City winning the treble and it being announced immediately that Utd is now backed by Qatar…

And if it’s Brexit Rat and his Glazer pals, they’ll want to sneak it in while the sports media is focussed on City to avoid bad press (this would be absolute classic Glazer style media tactics).

The more I think about it the more confident I am that’s how it’ll play out. The news will drop, either way, in the immediate wake of City’s treble.
 
Only the glazers could make selling United even more of a disaster than owning United.
It's true, it become very clear that the disastrous negotiations in the transfer market we have conducted have stemmed from Glazer's negotiating tactics, of basically waiting and hoping people come around to their way of thinking.
 
Zilliacus bowed out of the race to buy the club and recently said that he thinks the Glazers are staying. With that in mind, why are people still complaining about the fact that SJR might allow two or more of them to stay on in minority positions, in order to get control of the club?

Seriously, we're looking down the barrel of the Glazers remaining and potentially taking more finance on to cement their position, and still people wouldn't accept SJR in a majority, controlling position, just because the Glazers would remain in an insignificant capacity?
 
Seriously, we're looking down the barrel of the Glazers remaining and potentially taking more finance on to cement their position, and still people wouldn't accept SJR in a majority, controlling position, just because the Glazers would remain in an insignificant capacity?

I’d rather they weren’t enabled and allowed to remain for longer.

I’d actually prefer for them to stay without backing and be FORCED to sell due to their epic failure than watch them bring in another Daddy figure to bail them out.

Either run the club that you were gifted, or leave, properly.
 
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I’d rather they weren’t propped up and allowed to remain for longer.

I’d actually prefer for them to stay without backing and be FORCED to sell due to their epic failure than watch them bring in another Daddy figure to bail them out.

Either run the club that you were gifted, or leave, properly.

Unfortunately for us, tough shit. We can't force them to do anything. So SJR in majority control is better than them staying. That isn't them being bailed out. Them being bailed out is being bankrolled by a hedge fund, which will see them remain for another 20 years. That is a big possibility right now, in my opinion.

So what is the best outcome if these are the only options, as it's starting to look? There is a reason SJR made the offers he did, and that is because he knows they don't want to go.
 
I’ve been thinking about it and I reckon, whoever takes over, it’ll be announced in the wake of City’s CL win…

If it’s Qatar, they will want to immediately trump City’s achievement by overriding them in the sports news.

Imagine City winning the treble and it being announced immediately that Utd is now backed by Qatar…

And if it’s Brexit Rat and his Glazer pals, they’ll want to sneak it in while the sports media is focussed on City to avoid bad press (this would be absolute classic Glazer style media tactics).

The more I think about it the more confident I am that’s how it’ll play out. The news will drop, either way, in the immediate wake of City’s treble.
Not your catchiest song

Also..assuming you’re correct, what happens if Inter win the CL?
 
After the Saudi buyout of the PGA tour, you have to wonder what is the point of holding the “moral high ground”.

We’re going to get a billionaire owner one way or another. Might as well be one who pays off all our Glazer debts and builds us a new stadium.

Might even win a league title along the way.
 
Apparently suspicions were first raised about the credibility of Jassim as a bidder when the Raine Group were told they would need to create a ChatGPT account in order to communicate with him.
What a shame you're only allowed to make 10 of these razor-sharp jokes a day. Truly, the Caf is worse off for it.
 
What a shame you're only allowed to make 10 of these razor-sharp jokes a day. Truly, the Caf is worse off for it.

Someone's upset that their AI generated sheikh still hasn't paid up the 6 billion.
 
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