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ROFLUTION said:
I'd probably support a lower league team. Maybe my old favored club Deportivo la Coruna who floats around in a depressing state in 3rd tier spanish football. Rather a real club with struggles than a hollow one.

It'll definitely feel weird as my whole family are United-fans. I don't think I'm the only one in my family who will cut United out if a sale to an oil-state happens.

I don't believe in seeing it through and how an arab-ownership goes, because that'll eventually probably convince me to just go along with being a United-fan again eventually.

I do hope that mass riots erupt if this ownership is taking place however. United is a club for the fans, yet many of us has had NO SAY about criteria of owners in this sale whatsoever. Really shows what bloodsucking cancerous vermin the Glazers are.
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The riots will be if an oil state doesn't take over. I think you are a minority, probably from a different era.
 
I'll always support United. It is ingrained in me. If a state buy us, so be it. If another leech type Glazer buy us I'll be raging.

Like previous posters have said look at the Geordies fans loving life now they have people who spend money. Imagine the team with decent investment the ground, training etc. Takes huge money. We don't need a sugar daddy but with one we'd be flying back where we belong #1

Get.Used.To.It
 
Skills said:
I'm actually quite excited about this great fanbase purge.

I've always thought that we have a lot of fans, but essentially a lot of very low quality fans. This will be the true cultural reset the club needs.
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Why would this filter out the low quality ones though?
 
Strootman's Finger said:
The riots will be if an oil state doesn't take over. I think you are a minority, probably from a different era.
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a different era? Than what? I grew up in the 90s supporting United from the mid 90’s to now so im basically the most normal era United fan you’ll see (by that i mean the era with most fans coming in)
 
Luka Mora said:
You win the Top Red Award. Congrats

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making fun of someone standing up for something by using a handicapped fella to mock the poster? Congrats.
 
Skills said:
I'm actually quite excited about this great fanbase purge.

I've always thought that we have a lot of fans, but essentially a lot of very low quality fans. This will be the true cultural reset the club needs.
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What the feck does that mean? How do you quantify the ’quality’ of one football fan against another? Why would you even want to?

Football means different things to different people, for some it’s a pass the time hobby, for others it’s almost a religion - people come from different backgrounds and cultures, and hold different opinions. I despair sometimes that we can’t have a grown up discussion about the future of the club without resorting to name calling, point scoring and one upmanship. We’re all her for the same reason after all, aren’t we?
 
Red_Manc_M15 said:
I'll always support United. It is ingrained in me. If a state buy us, so be it. If another leech type Glazer buy us I'll be raging.

Like previous posters have said look at the Geordies fans loving life now they have people who spend money. Imagine the team with decent investment the ground, training etc. Takes huge money. We don't need a sugar daddy but with one we'd be flying back where we belong #1

Get.Used.To.It
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Thats wishful thinking. Newcastle havent actually won anything. New owners with oil money are no guarantee for that neither.
 
Tarrou said:
Why would this filter out the low quality ones though?
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Dunno about low quality but if you’re so readily able to give up your club cause of their owners then you weren’t a proper fan to begin with, IMO. I know this will upset some people but it’s what I believe. The super league fiasco I understood as that was an attempt at club theft but stopping cause you don’t like the owners? Nah, not good enough for me.
 
Kaos said:
Absolute nonsense. A small number would call it quits but to make the generalisation that the only ones left behind would be a bunch of Fairweather plastics is ridiculously reductionist.

Fan loyalty first and foremost is to the club, never the owners.

You can despise the ownership and yet continue to support the club. Otherwise we wouldn't even have any fans if your logic applies to the universally despised glazers.
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plastic is probably harsh, but if you stay on, you can’t really say you only support the club.

Indirectly your support and funds for the club will (possibly, we’re yet to see it fully) help sportswash a state. The fans will be a vessel for this unless the fans week in and week out protest/make issues with the owners visible - i cant see that happening.
 
AltiUn said:
Dunno about low quality but if you’re so readily able to give up your club cause of their owners then you weren’t a proper fan to begin with, IMO. I know this will upset some people but it’s what I believe. The super league fiasco I understood as that was an attempt at club theft but stopping cause you don’t like the owners? Nah, not good enough for me.
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It’s not just about ‘not liking’ them though is it. It’s about being morally opposed to fundamental abuses of human rights and abhorrent social practises perpetrated by these states.
The ‘not a real fan’ comment is laughably puerile. Some people will hold their morals and beliefs above the enjoyment of a sport. This kind of argument just belittles and cheapens the whole discussion imo.
 
So if everyone is only investing and not buying, who will pitch in the money that is needed for the club to develop?
 
ROFLUTION said:
plastic is probably harsh, but if you stay on, you can’t really say you only support the club.

Indirectly your support and funds for the club will (possibly, we’re yet to see it fully) help sportswash a state. The fans will be a vessel for this unless the fans week in and week out protest/make issues with the owners visible - i cant see that happening.
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Absolutely. There are plenty of fans who haven’t bought a shirt or mercy in the last 17 years so as not to be supportive of the Glazers. Does that change when the owners do?
 
ROFLUTION said:
a different era? Than what? I grew up in the 90s supporting United from the mid 90’s to now so im basically the most normal era United fan you’ll see (by that i mean the era with most fans coming in)
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That's a whole generation ago. I am from a similar era to you, but there are 30 years of fans after us, and lot of them are pro rich owners, whoever they are. I'm in the middle, i'd like to live in a fantasy world where a rich fan buys the club and it supports itself and does everything right. But I also want to see United win something again in my lifetime, and the realist in me knows the former will not produce the results in the modern game.
 
So we've gone from pro oil state monarchy to slagging off disable people and we haven't even been brought yet.
 
Man, you all need to calm down. :lol: Club hasn't been sold to anyone yet. That's months away. Leave some for when that happens.
 
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Strootman's Finger said:
That's a whole generation ago. I am from a similar era to you, but there are 30 years of fans after us, and lot of them are pro rich owners, whoever they are. I'm in the middle, i'd like to live in a fantasy world where a rich fan buys the club and it supports itself and does everything right. But I also want to see United win something again in my lifetime, and the realist in me knows the former will not produce the results in the modern game.
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Wow, you're a proper old school fan from the 90s.
 
Spoony said:
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Wow, you're a proper old school fan from the 90s.
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What?? I basically stated my age. I didn't say anything negative towards the younger fans, I didn't say anything to suggest I was any more of a fan than anyone, if anything I said I agreed with them. If you think you caught me in a top red moment you are sadly mistaken because I spent almost 10 years on another fair sized United forum being public enemy #1 for the top reds.
 
Jack_Daniels said:
I would rather watch my beloved Manchester United get relegated than being pumped full of oil money and being exploited in a large scale sportwashing operation. Scary to see people starting to rationalize the prospect of Qatari- and Saudi-type owners.

You have become the very thing you swore to destroy.
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United sold their soul to the devil in 1992
 
Strootman's Finger said:
What?? I basically stated my age. I didn't say anything negative towards the younger fans, I didn't say anything to suggest I was any more of a fan than anyone, if anything I said I agreed with them. If you think you caught me in a top red moment you are sadly mistaken because I spent almost 10 years on another fair sized United forum being public enemy #1 for the top reds.
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And please stop using 'top red'. It used to have a positive meaning but Redcafe has decided to use it negatively.
 
Red_Manc_M15 said:
I'll always support United. It is ingrained in me. If a state buy us, so be it. If another leech type Glazer buy us I'll be raging.

Like previous posters have said look at the Geordies fans loving life now they have people who spend money. Imagine the team with decent investment the ground, training etc. Takes huge money. We don't need a sugar daddy but with one we'd be flying back where we belong #1

Get.Used.To.It
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That’s the hope but it’s by no means guaranteed. We need competence more than cash.
 
Plant0x84 said:
Depressing, isn’t it? :(
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The result of all this sports washing stuff is what we saw with Chelsea and the end of Abramovich time as owner. If we get brought by one of these dictatorships, whenever they commit some type of war crime it will be United fans singing their praises and defending them.
 
Strootman's Finger said:
Why is everyone so convinced an oil state will take over. I haven't seen any real news to suggest that's the case. Am I missing something?
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Well tend to think there is more to Avram being over in Qatar than just watching World Cup. Also the small matter of a tier 1 in Ornstein reporting discussions with Qatari and Dubai based investors.
 
croadyman said:
Well tend to think there is more to Avram being over in Qatar just watching World Cup
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Thanks, that I did see, and it does raise questions. I was looking more for reports from credible journalists. But someone else pointed out the thread title change to me, so that did provide some clarification.
 
Plant0x84 said:
That’s the hope but it’s by no means guaranteed. We need competence more than cash.
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We need someone to buy us who will put people in place to run the club properly, not more investors from the other side of the Atlantic who you never see apart from when they are rubbing their hands when their dividend lands in their bank account. Sorry ones wanting the club to fail rather than us be successful with a mega rich owner are just thinking about themselves, not anybody else and certainly not the club they are supposed to be supporting. As others are saying we have absolutely no idea who will be buying us.
 
stubie said:
United sold their soul to the devil in 1992
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Nah, it was when they changed their name from Newton Heath and changed the kit to red and white.

John Henry Davies had no respect for the fans and was only interested in money, it makes by blood boil.
 
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