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The Glazers could

a- claim that United are not for sale or they had accepted a minority stake
b- they go exclusive with 1 or 2 owners
c- they call for a next round of bids

This radio silence makes no sense whatsoever unless.......they are very very close to agreeing terms with one owner and they are only sorting the details

Or:
d- The Glazers do not agree on which bid is the best and therefore need to discuss it.
e- The Glazers spend time going into detail about all the bids, so that they have a full overview of the consequences of all bids.
f- The Glazers are unsure if they will sell at all and spend the time discussing it.
g- They Glazers think they can put more pressure on the bidders by taking their time.
h- Who knows what is going on in the Glazers`s heads anyway?
 
I find it quite funny how whole articles with pictures of the wrong person being used to identify Jassim.

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Elliott coming in with the Glazers staying may actually be better in the short to medium term.

They wouldn't buy a stake unless they had some sort of say in the running of the club, and they were pretty ruthless at Milan (and successful). Our transfer spend in the next couple of years will be the same whoever owns us because of FFP.

Elliott have a track record in successfully revamping an underperforming club. The same can't really be said of Ratcliffe. The Qatari guy has no experience in football (if you believe the people involved in PSG won't be calling the shots). Elliott probably best place to hit the ground running - there's a lot of unknowns with the other bidders (particularly the Qataris)
Do one. Elliott are also parasites only in it for the cash returns. They have no interest in football other than it’s a good vehicle to make money.
you really remind me of that lad that used to sing the praises of the glazers when they were buying us, GHMU or something like that. Someone will remember
 
Elliott coming in with the Glazers staying may actually be better in the short to medium term.

They wouldn't buy a stake unless they had some sort of say in the running of the club, and they were pretty ruthless at Milan (and successful). Our transfer spend in the next couple of years will be the same whoever owns us because of FFP.

Elliott have a track record in successfully revamping an underperforming club. The same can't really be said of Ratcliffe. The Qatari guy has no experience in football (if you believe the people involved in PSG won't be calling the shots). Elliott probably best place to hit the ground running - there's a lot of unknowns with the other bidders (particularly the Qataris)
Glazers staying is better for us in the medium term? Now I have seen it all.
 
Elliott will only get involved on the off chance they can seize the club from the people who lend... That is there MO.
 
Do one. Elliott are also parasites only in it for the cash returns. They have no interest in football other than it’s a good vehicle to make money.
you really remind me of that lad that used to sing the praises of the glazers when they were buying us, GHMU or something like that. Someone will remember

They are of course only in it for cash returns but they aim to achieve that through efficiency. They would try to implement good decision making structures at the club and reduce wastage - the complete opposite as to how we've been run over the last decade. It could be a win win for Utd and Elliott - it's not a zero sum game. It could be similar to the FSG model at Liverpool but Utd are obviously much bigger and have better resources.
 
I’ve said this a few days ago, but it seems clear that there is a “pause” in the negotiations. The Qataris and Ineos are very experienced in M&A and has the best advisors. It’s not like they will increase their bid ‘just because there is another round of bidding’. In short, there is no work that can be done right now that changes anything. More DD. More negotiations etc. Doesn’t work like that. We want 6. Our offer is 5.5. We want 6. Our offer is 5.5. We want 6. Our offer is 5.5. We want 6. Our offer is 5.5. We want 6. OK we bid 6. That is not how it works.

If the Glazers wait, things can get better or worse. There could be signs of lower inflation and an upturn on the markets. Or we could lose against Brentford and Everton. Get a civil war in the US. A volcano eruption in Wales. The PL adopting stricter owners test rules that disqualifies the Qataris and or Ineos. Whatever.

The next step is to point as someone and let them know that the other bidder will get it unless they raise their bid. The only way to with certainty call any bluffs so to speak. Then you just ink the papers with whomever comes out on top. Don’t think we will hear about this before the pens are put to the papers.

But again, the Glazers have paused things. That could be to sit down with the siblings and let everyone know in which direction they are going. That could take a few days. But on the other hand, it could just as well be about hoping that time will result in they getting paid more. If that is the case, if you are willing to take that risk, which honestly is anything but insignificant, why wait a week? Why not two? Three?

If I was betting on this, I would guess that we get some news on Thursday-Friday next week. But that is just a wild guess. Could come today or in 6 weeks.
 
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Glazers staying is better for us in the medium term? Now I have seen it all.

Well it would be the Glazers + Elliott, so not the same as the Glazers on their own.

And yeah it's easily possible that they would make smarter football decisions than Qatar in the short to medium term. Elliott have a track record at Milan and the Glazers have the experience of all the mistakes made in the last decade. We don't really know anything about the Sheikh or what direction he'd take us on the field. Throwing money at things isn't enough, you need expertise. There's a lot of unknowns with the Sheikh which makes me feel nervous about him taking over.
 
Not sure if it’s mentioned on this thread.

It is actually against Islam to do anything with interest. If Qataris buy us, that’s the end of us getting any loans whatsoever. An Islamic bank is actually an interest free bank.
 
Not sure if it’s mentioned on this thread.

It is actually against Islam to do anything with interest. If Qataris buy us, that’s the end of us getting any loans whatsoever. An Islamic bank is actually an interest free bank.
This was addressed further back in the thread, but that’s not strictly true. It’s about how it is structured. Any bank isn’t going to loan cash without seeing a return.
Islamic banks make a profit through equity participation, which requires a borrower to give the bank a share in their profits rather than paying interest
 
Not sure if it’s mentioned on this thread.

It is actually against Islam to do anything with interest. If Qataris buy us, that’s the end of us getting any loans whatsoever. An Islamic bank is actually an interest free bank.

But it’s not illegal to — pay — interest. Qatar’s debt to GDP ratio is 40%. Low for a nation, but of course a lot of billions in debt.
 
its amazing how many people seem to think Islamic banks are just loaning out money to everyone for free
 
Well it would be the Glazers + Elliott, so not the same as the Glazers on their own.

And yeah it's easily possible that they would make smarter football decisions than Qatar in the short to medium term. Elliott have a track record at Milan and the Glazers have the experience of all the mistakes made in the last decade. We don't really know anything about the Sheikh or what direction he'd take us on the field. Throwing money at things isn't enough, you need expertise. There's a lot of unknowns with the Sheikh which makes me feel nervous about him taking over.
Enough now mate, you're obviously a WUM and not a Utd fan. Everyone has already noticed it.
 
Enough now mate, you're obviously a WUM and not a Utd fan. Everyone has already noticed it.
Do one. Elliott are also parasites only in it for the cash returns. They have no interest in football other than it’s a good vehicle to make money.
you really remind me of that lad that used to sing the praises of the glazers when they were buying us, GHMU or something like that. Someone will remember
Threadban! :p
 
its amazing how many people seem to think Islamic banks are just loaning out money to everyone for free
The point I’m making is that most Islamic people tend to cash own houses, businesses, rather than getting loans. It’s ingrained in their philosophy/ upbringing.

Note - not sure if this is stereotypical? I’m muslim myself and this is how I’ve been brought up too.
 
Don’t be silly, not everyone! It’s obviously a secret club where only Muslims get the free money!! ;)

*edit* - can I self refer to the ’posts that feel racist but aren’t‘ thread?:lol:
Funny enough I could get a free loan from my mosque if I needed to.
 
Anything positive happening yet or is it increasingly likely the Glazers will hold on with help from the Elliot group? News seems to be very slow.
 
I’ve said this a few days ago, but it seems clear that there is a “pause” in the negotiations.

Total nonsense!

The mistake many people seem to have made is thinking the sale of a football club for around £5 to 6 billion pounds would be sorted out quickly!

The current pace is completely normal.
 
I’ve said this a few days ago, but it seems clear that there is a “pause” in the negotiations.
It’s been 12 days since the second bids were submitted. I’m not sure that qualifies as a pause to negotiations on a £6bn deal. Just because we aren’t getting news reports every day doesn’t suggest the whole thing is on pause. Surely you weren’t expecting a one-click Amazon style checkout?
 
There is talk of another round of bidding (probably final) after Easter.

So people may as well get used to there not being any meaningful news about this for 2 weeks or so.

The only news we might get is who has bid but essentially we will be no further forward than where we are now except that the Glazers will be making their final decision on which to accept (if any)
 
There is talk of another round of bidding (probably final) after Easter.

So people may as well get used to there not being any meaningful news about this for 2 weeks or so.

The only news we might get is who has bid but essentially we will be no further forward than where we are now except that the Glazers will be making their final decision on which to accept (if any)


Why after Easter? Are they expected a rejuvenated jesus to place a bid for Manchester united?
 
Duh!! Who do you think the 5th bidder was all along?

Delaney : middle Eastern investor who was once fount guilty by a European government of civilian unrest bids for Manchester united. Local fan says he is superior to him
 
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