Christian Eriksen | Signs for Manchester United

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Zoo said:


He wants to stay in London.
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Plausible supposition. Would be surprised if he turned down a couple of seasons with us; he would regret it if he did.

I think he could help us as an 8/10 hybrid. I would rotate him with Bruno and sub them on and off, keep them both fresh, use the contrast in their styles to change things up.
 
OrcaFat said:
I’m not sure all of your conclusions are solid. McT plays in defence for Scotland because he’s better than their other defenders, not necessarily worse than their other midfielders.

Fred probably is better but they both suffered from being forced to play with each other. Fred is an out and out no8, it’s the only job he can do. McT is also an 8 and has played well at times. Both would do better in midfield with a proper no6 and have been liabilities for us without that.

But I take your point that McT would not get into the Brazil team, that idea is pretty laughable.
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That’s pretty much the whole point. Also, I have heard that point many times before why Mctominay plays in defense for Scotland but sorry that’s not true. If Mctominay would be a better midfielder than others or equally good then he would play in midfield for Scotland. Period. And whenever he plays in midfield occasionally he performs worse than their starting midfielders. So your point about him starting in defense doesn’t necessarily mean he is worse than their midfielders. Well he is and it shows whenever he’s picked ahead of others.

He isn’t a good defender in a 3 either. He isn’t even a defender to begin with and he certainly isn’t a better defender than Hanley, Cooper, McKenna etc. He plays there primarily because they can’t afford to play him in midfield. If he wasn’t a manutd player he wouldn’t make it in Scotland team at all. Scotland midfield comprises of players like Armstrong, Gilmour, Mcgregor, McGinn. If he was good he would break into it easily. The fact is he is neither here nor there so gets shifted around. If he’s sold tomorrow you would see him losing his place in the national team.
 


Kind of relieved if true. Don't think this signing makes sense. Classy player, but not really what we need unless we were to ship out Bruno whom we've just given a bumper new deal.
 
Kaushal said:
That’s pretty much the whole point. Also, I have heard that point many times before why Mctominay plays in defense for Scotland but sorry that’s not true. If Mctominay would be a better midfielder than others or equally good then he would play in midfield for Scotland. Period. And whenever he plays in midfield occasionally he performs worse than their starting midfielders. So your point about him starting in defense doesn’t necessarily mean he is worse than their midfielders. Well he is and it shows whenever he’s picked ahead of others.

He isn’t a good defender in a 3 either. He isn’t even a defender to begin with and he certainly isn’t a better defender than Hanley, Cooper, McKenna etc. He plays there primarily because they can’t afford to play him in midfield. If he wasn’t a manutd player he wouldn’t make it in Scotland team at all. Scotland midfield comprises of players like Armstrong, Gilmour, Mcgregor, McGinn. If he was good he would break into it easily. The fact is he is neither here nor there so gets shifted around. If he’s sold tomorrow you would see him losing his place in the national team.
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I think all of that is false by the way. But at the same time he’s not good enough for us.
 
Bastian said:


Kind of relieved if true. Don't think this signing makes sense. Classy player, but not really what we need unless we were to ship out Bruno whom we've just given a bumper new deal.
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So when Bruno is injured or out of form. Whats the plan?
 
Bastian said:


Kind of relieved if true. Don't think this signing makes sense. Classy player, but not really what we need unless we were to ship out Bruno whom we've just given a bumper new deal.
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Explain the relief? Are you relived because now you don’t think Bruno will have competition?

Just need an understanding.
 
If we're missing out on targets like this I guess we're no longer offering ridiculous wages, if we want to take some positives.
 
golden_blunder said:
And it could be the stadium that ends up burying some people

i love OT

i wish there was a way to keep part of the stadium and incorporate it into a new build. A bit like you see with old renovated cottages, where it’s still the facade of the building which leads though to the new rebuild

but who are we kidding; Glazers
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A great idea like the Highbury flats.

But the chances are the Glazers will use the land to start some sort of gentrification project or a massive upscale mall, which is more in line with their business. And then move the United stadium to the slumps of Wilmslow, nearer to the club's humble servants.

Besides which part of the stadium would you save? Those crisscrossing metal pipes that over-hang the stands are horrible looking. A very industrial look. The Edwards' idea?

OT let's face it, is architecturally or design-wise the definition of cute -- ugly but adorable.

But it's unique and not to be mistaken for all those modern hipster-design stadiums. For example -- what is Wembley without the two towers -- regardless of whatever concoction that the architects had come up with.
The players know they are walking onto Old Trafford pitch -- and not the cheese room stadium that could be mistaken for the London Stadium or Emirates.
All this history has got to either make them feel like it's a grand occasion or it intimidates them with all the history that was created on that very pitch.
 
Sad. Would be nice to have had an alternative to Bruno. I really hope Hannibal can impress Ten Hag.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
If we're missing out on targets like this I guess we're no longer offering ridiculous wages, if we want to take some positives.
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That's how I'm trying to look at it too. May be depressing in the short-term, but in the long-run the team will be in a better place for it.
 
1 negative article and we erupt into negativity. Typical CAF.

That being said if it said he prefers manchester, no one would believe it. Calling it a PR piece.:lol::lol:
 
Kaushal said:
Fred is not an awful footballer. I don’t know why people lump him with Mctominay and pretend that both are same footballers quality wise. One starts for Brazil in midfield who are one of the favorites for the World Cup and other one doesn’t even start in midfield and plays in defence for Scotland who didn’t even qualify for the World Cup.

I’m not a Fred fan and I think we can do better than both of them but look at the sample size outside united. Fred was very good for Shahktar and is very good for Brazil whereas young scotty plays in defense for Scotland. A first team Manutd midfielder playing in defense for a country like Scotland. Why ? Because players like Armstrong are better than him. And he starts for us.
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When I say he is awful, i'm saying he isn't Man Utd standard of quality.

However, in 2022 he is the standard that United accept as good enough.
 
Posh Red said:
Strongly disagree. These stadiums represent so much more than the last ten years. It’s the same with the San Siro or Camp Nou. I’m sure 99.9% of players are more than aware of this, and it would still mean more to them then playing in a modern, shiny stadium with no history or character.
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Some will some won't, it's very subjective.
 
Cassidy said:
So when Bruno is injured or out of form. Whats the plan?
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Cassidy said:
So when Bruno is injured or out of form. Whats the plan?
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Mainoldo said:
Explain the relief? Are you relived because now you don’t think Bruno will have competition?

Just need an understanding.
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I don't think it's realistic to acquire him as a squad player when he's been the main man at Brentford and likely offered a starting role at Spurs. And at his age, he'd expect to be a starter anyway. So it presents a headache stockpiling similar players. It's all nice to have loads of good players, but they have to fit and the squad needs to have the right balance. If we were talking about a mobile central midfielder who can play alongside de Jong, physically up for the task of an ETH high intensity game it would be a different story.

That's my take anyway.
 
sglowrider said:
This.

There is history or stories for most United fans who go to OT. That was the section your dad or granddad took you for the first time. Or you met some of your now mates there!

Or who you saw play the very first time you went to OT. McQueen, Robson or Cantona strutting his stuff, collar up of course.

You just can't buy memories or history.

OT is like an old DB4 versus the buggatti veyron that is those new stadiums.
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100 percent true, but a fan and player are different.

I'm a man United fan, I read this forum everyday. I have amazing memories and I've spent hours watching clips of our previous players.

Would I pick United over all other clubs as a player? Nope, and especially now there are quite a few I'd pick first.

History wouldn't really have much effect on me.
 
Hammondo said:
100 percent true, but a fan and player are different.

I'm a man United fan, I read this forum everyday. I have amazing memories and I've spent hours watching clips of our previous players.

Would I pick United over all other clubs as a player? Nope, and especially now there are quite a few I'd pick first.

History wouldn't really have much effect on me.
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I guess remembering former players, managers or events has no bearing on you? Its about the now?
 
Bastian said:
I don't think it's realistic to acquire him as a squad player when he's been the main man at Brentford and likely offered a starting role at Spurs. And at his age, he'd expect to be a starter anyway. So it presents a headache stockpiling similar players. It's all nice to have loads of good players, but they have to fit and the squad needs to have the right balance. If we were talking about a mobile central midfielder who can play alongside de Jong, physically up for the task of an ETH high intensity game it would be a different story.

That's my take anyway.
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Okay you say that. But do we not have Fred, McTominay and Van De Beek. So why are you so confident we can select squad dynamic for an attacking midfielder but not have precaution that we will have 4 players for two positions in CM?

If we get De Jong that is. If we feel the need to add another midfielder defensive or attacking it’s a good thing.
 
Zoo said:


He wants to stay in London.
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Fair enough.

Frankly, as I have said before I don't really understand what position we'd be signing him for.

He's played in a 3 man centre midfield at Brentford, with the least defensive responsibility. That won't happen at United. So what's our idea for him?

I keep hearing 'options' but you don't get that with teams like City or Liverpool. City have lost Fernandinho. They don't go oh look Eriksen. They say let's target a defensive midfielder.

United are, I believe, trying to rebalance our midfield. Bring in players who don't mind playing deep and advancing the ball. That's what De Jong is. So, surely, we should be looking at players of that type? That's not Eriksen.

Saying we've lost Mata, Lingard and Pogba shouldnt come into it. The squad was already too top heavy. Them going just let's the balance reset a bit.

I struggle to understand why we're going after Eriksen.
 
Players telling us to get fecked left and right and who can blame them? Until the Glazers go we aren't a serious club. Going from Brentford to United is almost a sideways step right now.
 
Cassidy said:
Thats one season
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And it's the one season where Frenkie and Van de Beek were consistently playing together. Van de Beek only played more deep when Frenkie left or before Frenkie was integrated in the team. Clearly Ten Hag thought it's not good to play with them both deep as it's the only point Van de Beek didn't play in central midfield much.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
And it's the one season where Frenkie and Van de Beek were consistently playing together. Van de Beek only played more deep when Frenkie left or before Frenkie was integrated in the team. Clearly Ten Hag thought it's not good to play with them both deep as it's the only point Van de Beek didn't play in central midfield much.
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Or he thought given the squad make up that was where it was best to play him. But if he has Bruno and doesn’t trust the other midfielders to control posession, do not be suprised to see Donny in there if we only bring in one mid.
 
If we only have a £120M shoestring budget (relative to our rivals and the size of the club) like Whitwell said. Getting this lad and Bale on free transfers would be extremely savvy by Ten Hag to work with his shoestring budget and stretch it further. Sometimes it takes a manager to be nimble in the transfer market, that's why we made Ten Hag the manager to get savvy transfer bargains and develop the players he has.

Eriksen and Bale would get plenty of guaranteed game-time in the Europa League which will keep them both fresh as a daisy for the World Cup in November by not overplaying. A win-win for all parties.
 
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Godfather said:
That doesn't make much sense. We get overrun in mf mostly because McT is hardly a footballer that folds under slightest pressure. if anything having better footballers in midfield that are able to control and dictate a game will prevent us from getting overrun again. One destroyer will be needed however, that's true. I think Fred can do that job.
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Yeah still desperately need a destroyer type in there, if only for the fact we don't have any in the whole squad
 
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