I don't see him sulking. He's playing extremely poorly but we have no way of knowing whether it's anything to do with his contract situation or just poor form coupled with low confidence.
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There's a lot of similarities to the Mata signing. Fell out with the manager, form dropped off a cliff, and the team he was joining had almost none of the conditions that allowed him to thrive in the first place, never mind bounce back from a career low. Expecting him to be one the best #10s in the league under those conditions seems a bit far-fetched. And aiming for anything less is unlikely to take us in the direction we need to go.
While things didn't turn out as we all hoped with Mata, I still firmly believe that we made the right decision by being him, and should do it again.
The Spurs players all seem to be dragging each other down to new lows atm. The fact he can’t rise above it though would be a big concern given what he’d be walking into here.
His form this season is a huge concern but I still believe it's absolutely worth the risk if we could get one of the best attacking midfielders in the league for half his market value.
That said: I'd rather have Maddison if possible.
We kept saying the same about Sanchez.
There is an element of risk associated with the purchase of Eriksen. His form for Spurs over the last 12 months has been nothing short of abysmal, and he would no doubt demand a fat salary similar to that of Sanchez.
I can't see Ole, Woody or the board going for it due to the number of times we have wasted money on Eriksen types recently (players looking for one final payday as they approach their later years) and he doesn't fit the criteria of the type player we're looking for these days.
He did well throughout last season so 12 months is not right.
I've acknowledged there's a risk due do his form. I do, however, not see why he wouldn't fit the profile. Sure, he's not British but he is PL proven, reasonably young for a marquee signing (and we need some of those eventually), he's modest and hard-working, unselfish, diligent with his pressing, creative and intelligent. Strikes me as pretty much exactly what we're looking for?
Maddison will probably cost you guys Harry Maguire money next summer. Maybe even more.
And rightfully so
Yep. So would you have Maddison for mega money or Eriksen on a free?
Eriksen is 28 now. He's approaching his twilight years, and his form (which is close to 12 months) is very similar to that of a declining player. There's too much risk attached to his transfer for my liking.
By all accounts, United are in the market for young, hungry PL proven players looking to make their mark on the game. The opposite of Eriksen.
as crazy as it might seem I'd go with Maddison
Erickson stinks of a Sanchez type deal - he wasnt keen on us in the Summer and I wouldn't bring any player in who didnt really want to be at the club
he wouldn't be free in January and even if he did come in the Summer he'd be on 300k a week plus
I think we need to be focusing on hungry young players
I'd actually be looking for the next Erickson or Madison
bloody hell
Supposedly no offers even came in for Eriksen so he can't be sulking at not being allowed to leave.
We'll see if he has an agreement on a free or is he damaging his prospects of getting his trial at one of the big two in Spain. We hear Perez isn't too hot on Pogba and his performances haven't helped. We fans often think it's an attempt to reduce the fee but more likely there's nothing going on and poor performances give the suitors second thoughts or at the least will impact what he can get in wages.
We'll see if he has an agreement on a free or is he damaging his prospects of getting his trial at one of the big two in Spain. We hear Perez isn't too hot on Pogba and his performances haven't helped. We fans often think it's an attempt to reduce the fee but more likely there's nothing going on and poor performances give the suitors second thoughts or at the least will impact what he can get in wages.
Well,its the same for almost the whole Spurs team. Even Kane.
This "downing tools" is BS. They are woefully out of form.
There was a jest in there, by the way, part of the Cafe's obsession with players approaching a certain age and being considered 'past it'.
It didn't translate well given the rest of my post.
Meh.
I am really conflicted by the idea.
I have loved him as a player for years but we have had our fingers burned so many times with players like Alexis, Falcao, Schweinsteiger and Matic. Good players who are currently in a slump don't seem to react very well to signing for a club in a slump, just seems to reinforce their trajectory.
I have loved him as a player for years but we have had our fingers burned so many times with players like Alexis, Falcao, Schweinsteiger and Matic. Good players who are currently in a slump don't seem to react very well to signing for a club in a slump, just seems to reinforce their trajectory.
made it clear he doesnt want to join us in the summer. United made contact but were quickly made aware that Erikson had no intentions of joining us. He probably change his mind if whichever club he is holding out for reject him.
You mean "reportedly" rejected, as opposed to him saying so
And you've completely missed the point of him leaving on a free transfer so he can maximise his wages
According to the latest reports in the media there is some sort of verbal agreement between Levy and Eriksen that he does not join another EPL club. But If a good offer from a EPL club is made to Spurs,Levy might be happy to cash in.
Not sure if that s true or not.
Not sure if that s true or not.
ERIKSEN FFS.
Eyrckkssonn is still top quality and would be the cheaper option but I think our club his focused on Maddison and Sancho
Eriksen is what we need, and could immediately transform ours into a regular top 4 for another 3-4 years.
I agree that we should focus on hungry player (don’t care about young or no). Eriksen seems to has lost his hunger. Right now all he cares is earning big money or play for a team that can win major trophies. Just like Sanchez & Ozil right now I think there is likely chance he will show the same if he moves to United.
He's in his 10th full season as a professional, most peaks are between the 8-11th season. He may be only 28, but I think his best is behind him.
We should focus on Grealish, Maddison or Havertz
We should focus on Grealish, Maddison or Havertz
I would absolutely take him.
I think he has the attributes (low centre of gravity, good technique, good range of passing, good movement) to develop into a scholes/modric type of deep laying playmaker. Something we have been crying out for since Scholes retired. Put a work horse alongside him (mctominey? ) and he could play into his mid 30s.
If he is available at a cut price (30 mil?) than its a simple decision really especially considering how weak our midfield is.
I would, however, make sure we do not overpay him with wages. If he is on 75k now than offer 150k with results based bonuses (ie an extra 2mil per season we qualify for CL). Hopefully this way it will keep him hungry...
I think he has the attributes (low centre of gravity, good technique, good range of passing, good movement) to develop into a scholes/modric type of deep laying playmaker. Something we have been crying out for since Scholes retired. Put a work horse alongside him (mctominey? ) and he could play into his mid 30s.
If he is available at a cut price (30 mil?) than its a simple decision really especially considering how weak our midfield is.
I would, however, make sure we do not overpay him with wages. If he is on 75k now than offer 150k with results based bonuses (ie an extra 2mil per season we qualify for CL). Hopefully this way it will keep him hungry...
Eriksen has been one of the best midfielder in PL in the last 6 years before this season. Rarely injured, his average games are ~45 games/season. He's a creative hardworker CM ala David Silva, and still 27 y.o. One bad season shouldn't be used to rate player. We might as well sell DDG if that's the case. The comparison with Ozil and Sanchez is just lazy effort.
2016/17 Season
https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-...t-distance-in-the-premier-league-this-season/
Most distance covered in km per/90 2018-19 (Prem)
1. Morgan Gibbs-White (Wolves): 13.58
2. James Milner (Liverpool): 12.68
3. Yoshinori Muto (Newcastle): 12.61
4. Dan Gosling (Bournemouth): 12.45
5. Max Meyer (Crystal Palace): 12.31
6. Kevin De Bruyne (Man City): 12.29
7. Christian Eriksen (Spurs): 12.28
8. Andre Gomes (Everton): 12.26
9. Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal): 12.26
10. Ivan Cavaleiro (Wolves): 12.22
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...rs-premier-league-revealed-manchester-united/
https://www.skysports.com/app/trans...rs-would-face-tough-task-to-replace-playmaker
2016/17 Season
https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-...t-distance-in-the-premier-league-this-season/
Most distance covered in km per/90 2018-19 (Prem)
1. Morgan Gibbs-White (Wolves): 13.58
2. James Milner (Liverpool): 12.68
3. Yoshinori Muto (Newcastle): 12.61
4. Dan Gosling (Bournemouth): 12.45
5. Max Meyer (Crystal Palace): 12.31
6. Kevin De Bruyne (Man City): 12.29
7. Christian Eriksen (Spurs): 12.28
8. Andre Gomes (Everton): 12.26
9. Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal): 12.26
10. Ivan Cavaleiro (Wolves): 12.22
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...rs-premier-league-revealed-manchester-united/
https://www.skysports.com/app/trans...rs-would-face-tough-task-to-replace-playmaker
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Just like what Keane said, when a player lose their hunger, it's hard to get it back. It's likely happening to most Spurs experienced players right now that includes Eriksen.
Eriksen is a magnificent player. I think he's far from finished and would do well at any club he'll join. Still, I don't want him at United and the answer to that is pretty simple
a- He's 28 this February. We won't be winning any titles in the next 2-3 years so we need to think for the future here.
b- We can't keep rewarding players who are not pulling their weight elsewhere with a contract with us. We've seen what happened with Mata, Sanchez and Matic. Lets learn from our mistakes
What we need is young players who are hungry for success. I get it that we can't go for Maddison as it would cost a bomb but the likes of Havertz would probably not.
a- He's 28 this February. We won't be winning any titles in the next 2-3 years so we need to think for the future here.
b- We can't keep rewarding players who are not pulling their weight elsewhere with a contract with us. We've seen what happened with Mata, Sanchez and Matic. Lets learn from our mistakes
What we need is young players who are hungry for success. I get it that we can't go for Maddison as it would cost a bomb but the likes of Havertz would probably not.
People talk about hunger, but then still proposing us to sign Bale. Hah..
Can someone remind us of Mata's stats when he was at Chelsea?
Stop relying purely on numbers.. He was fantastic. He hasn't been for a year now. He also wants to play in Spain. If the only reason he leaves Spurs to join us is money, then we should be looking elsewhere.
A past-his-best mercenary is exactly what we don't need right now.
Stop relying purely on numbers.. He was fantastic. He hasn't been for a year now. He also wants to play in Spain. If the only reason he leaves Spurs to join us is money, then we should be looking elsewhere.
A past-his-best mercenary is exactly what we don't need right now.
Bale has something to prove in the premier league...
Nope
This!
It’s time we learn from past mistakes. Our squad is full of fragile and mentality soft characters. We are short of natural leaders and without a strong authority inside the locker room we should stay away from players like Eriksen and Bale.
TBF this is not as clear cut as lets say Bale, Ozil, Mata and Sanchez are. I think its fair to say that Eriksen was a top top player just few months ago and that Spurs are having a collective meltdown very few people can understand let alone explain. I'll be honest with you in saying that I wouldn't lose any sleep if we do sign Eriksen. However, we need to make absolutely sure that there's still a top player in him
Having said that I stick to what I previously said. IF the club is willing to spend crazy money this January or next season then we should go for a younger player instead. As Keane in his later years showed us, hunger and commitment means jack shit once the legs are gone and at 28, Eriksen will soon be in decline. Also its high time we remove the tag of being the best place for players to go for their final pay cheque. It hurts team morale and our image
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I'd rather stick Pogba in the 10 position and buy a CM or RW this January if I had the choice
That said, there won't be many options in January will there? But still I think I'd pass on Eriksen. He may or may not turn into another Sanchez, but the risk is high enough to pass.
That said, there won't be many options in January will there? But still I think I'd pass on Eriksen. He may or may not turn into another Sanchez, but the risk is high enough to pass.
This. As good as he is, he would be a short-term fix and its exactly those kinds of transfers that has caused us so much problem over the years. Of course if we could get him for free on something like a 3-year deal, that would be alright, but i would much rather see us go for someone that has their best years ahead of them
Consistent, hardworker, experience, healthy, and at his peak (27 y.o.).
Season - Goal, Assist, Games
18/19 - 10, 17, 51
17/18 - 14, 13, 47
16/17 - 12, 23, 48
15/16 - 8, 16, 47
14/15 - 12, 5, 48
Most distance covered in km per/90 2018-19 (Prem)
1. Morgan Gibbs-White (Wolves): 13.58
2. James Milner (Liverpool): 12.68
3. Yoshinori Muto (Newcastle): 12.61
4. Dan Gosling (Bournemouth): 12.45
5. Max Meyer (Crystal Palace): 12.31
6. Kevin De Bruyne (Man City): 12.29
7. Christian Eriksen (Spurs): 12.28
8. Andre Gomes (Everton): 12.26
9. Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal): 12.26
10. Ivan Cavaleiro (Wolves): 12.22
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...rs-premier-league-revealed-manchester-united/
Season - Goal, Assist, Games
18/19 - 10, 17, 51
17/18 - 14, 13, 47
16/17 - 12, 23, 48
15/16 - 8, 16, 47
14/15 - 12, 5, 48
Most distance covered in km per/90 2018-19 (Prem)
1. Morgan Gibbs-White (Wolves): 13.58
2. James Milner (Liverpool): 12.68
3. Yoshinori Muto (Newcastle): 12.61
4. Dan Gosling (Bournemouth): 12.45
5. Max Meyer (Crystal Palace): 12.31
6. Kevin De Bruyne (Man City): 12.29
7. Christian Eriksen (Spurs): 12.28
8. Andre Gomes (Everton): 12.26
9. Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal): 12.26
10. Ivan Cavaleiro (Wolves): 12.22
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...rs-premier-league-revealed-manchester-united/
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