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Should go to Juve. Titles, good money and a nice squad. Barca and Real don´t want him. Juve is the next best option.
Difference is Erikson will put in 100%, and even though hes the better player he has less ego.Come on, surely its not difficult to understand. RM and Juve is calling - Pogba wants to leave. If they are not in, he stays. Pretty much like how Eriksen is now.
If RM or Juve is not in for Pogba, he stays again just like Eriksen. Difference is Eriksen is a free agent next year while Pogba still has 3 years.
Should go to Juve. Titles, good money and a nice squad. Barca and Real don´t want him. Juve is the next best option.
Ramsey is deeper though. No idea about the money though.They have Ramsey. Where will the money come from, its ridiculous.
Probably does want out. Possibility he’ll take a mammoth contract offer at United as well. Either way it isn’t as incontestable as the playing himself coming out and explicitly declaring his desire to move.
Honestly, it’s not hard. Eriksen is only interested in staying if no other club of repute come in for him. You’re arguing semantics. If no other club of repute comes in for Pogba, do you think he wouldn’t be open to a new deal? The difference is Eriksen has refused to sign a new contract up until this point, and clubs have made their desire to sign Pogba well known. Or are you trying to tell me Spurs haven’t offered Eriksen a new deal up until now?
Probably?
Pogba very obviously won't sign a new deal, Eriksen might. This is the key difference.
We have him on a contract until 2021 with an option for another year. Eriksen will run away from you bottlejobs for feck all next year already.
Of course he will, nobody wants him.Well, until 2021 you'll have a toxic prima donna who will be even more half-hearted than before, if that's even possible: hardly a desirable prospect. Or else he might well destroy your summer window chances as the saga drags on before he's finally sold: again not a great prospect.
But Eriksen might still, despite your prediction, sign a new contract. Or if he's sold this summer we'll sign a replacement, whereas I don't see any replacements for Pogba on the horizon.
To put this another way, I rather be in Spurs' situation regarding Eriksen than in United's situation regarding Pogba.
More like nobody wants to deal with levy and his extortionist tendenciesOf course he will, nobody wants him.
The sheer amount of bollocks you spout.Well, until 2021 you'll have a toxic prima donna who will be even more half-hearted than before, if that's even possible: hardly a desirable prospect. Or else he might well destroy your summer window chances as the saga drags on before he's finally sold: again not a great prospect.
But Eriksen might still, despite your prediction, sign a new contract. Or if he's sold this summer we'll sign a replacement, whereas I don't see any replacements for Pogba on the horizon.
To put this another way, I rather be in Spurs' situation regarding Eriksen than in United's situation regarding Pogba.
The sheer amount of bollocks you spout.
Yeah, you'd rather be in a position where your player has 1yr left on the deal and wants out because he may extend his contract than have your player wanting out with 3yrs left on the contract because he may not extend. Amazeballs![]()
It’s like you haven’t followed football for the last 20 years. If a big club is in for him then yes. If there isn’t then of course he’s going to sign a new deal. Because, this will shock you, players like money, and we have lots of it. You can pretend Eriksen might sign a new deal all you like, he literally said he wanted to leave ffsProbably?
Pogba very obviously won't sign a new deal, Eriksen might. This is the key difference.
Gotta love 3 points based on 'feelings' and 'opinions' and 1 which is pointless as Pogba already has 3yrs left on his deal unlike Eriksen who goes for free in 6months.* Pogba is a toxic presence at United, whilst Eriksen is a positive influence at Spurs.
* Pogba staying at United would now clearly be disastrous for United - a sulking, half-hearted prima donna whom you could have replaced with some good player who'll give their all - whilst if Eriksen stays at Spurs he will continue to be a footballing asset.
* Pogba is currently destroying your transfer window chances, whilst the same is not true of Eriksen for Spurs.
* Pogba clearly won't sign a new contract, whilst Eriksen might.
Gotta love 3 points based on 'feelings' and 'opinions' and 1 which is pointless as Pogba already has 3yrs left on his deal unlike Eriksen who goes for free in 6months.
Why are you using asterisks as bullet points?* Pogba is a toxic presence at United, whilst Eriksen is a positive influence at Spurs.
* Pogba staying at United would now clearly be disastrous for United - a sulking, half-hearted prima donna whom you could have replaced with some good player who'll give their all - whilst if Eriksen stays at Spurs he will continue to be a footballing asset.
* Pogba is currently destroying your transfer window chances, whilst the same is not true of Eriksen for Spurs.
* Pogba clearly won't sign a new contract, whilst Eriksen might.
I know you're having a bit of fun with this, but, quite evidently, both clubs will sign replacements if they're sold. Regardless of whether you might be able to see it on the horizon or not.Well, until 2021 you'll have a toxic prima donna who will be even more half-hearted than before, if that's even possible: hardly a desirable prospect. Or else he might well destroy your summer window chances as the saga drags on before he's finally sold: again not a great prospect.
But Eriksen might still, despite your prediction, sign a new contract. Or if he's sold this summer we'll sign a replacement, whereas I don't see any replacements for Pogba on the horizon.
To put this another way, I rather be in Spurs' situation regarding Eriksen than in United's situation regarding Pogba.
I can't disagree with any of this. Not sure how people are.* Pogba is a toxic presence at United, whilst Eriksen is a positive influence at Spurs.
* Pogba staying at United would now clearly be disastrous for United - a sulking, half-hearted prima donna whom you could have replaced with some good player who'll give their all - whilst if Eriksen stays at Spurs he will continue to be a footballing asset.
* Pogba is currently destroying your transfer window chances, whilst the same is not true of Eriksen for Spurs.
* Pogba clearly won't sign a new contract, whilst Eriksen might.
Why are you using asterisks as bullet points?
- Pogba staying at United certainly wouldn't be disastrous, we need midfielders.
- Pogba destroying our chances in the transfer window is based on nothing, at all.
- Pogba probably won't sign a new contract, which is fine, his contract doesn't run out for a long time.
- He wouldn't be a toxic presence at United, he's turned up ready for the pre season tour as planned. He also has a lot of respect for Solskjaer, it's not like it was under Mourinho.
When was it a question whether he'd turn up or not? You're just making stuff up. Its fine that hes under contract with us for 2 to 3 years, so we're in no rush to sell him.
- You need midfielders, yes. But ones that are committed to the club, hard-working and not half-hearted.
- The longer the Pogba transfer saga drags on, the longer you won't know how much money you have to spend and whether or not you need to replace Pogba.
- Pogba's continued presence at United will not IMO be "fine" for either the team or club.
- He's turned up for the pre-season tour? Wah-hay! But it speaks volumes that it was even a question as whether he would.
I know you're having a bit of fun with this, but, quite evidently, both clubs will sign replacements if they're sold. Regardless of whether you might be able to see it on the horizon or not.
What's the point of a thread about Erikson speculation here?
Levy would give him a valuation of £200m before he negotiated with United .
* Pogba is a toxic presence at United, whilst Eriksen is a positive influence at Spurs.
* Pogba staying at United would now clearly be disastrous for United - a sulking, half-hearted prima donna whom you could have replaced with some good player who'll give their all - whilst if Eriksen stays at Spurs he will continue to be a footballing asset.
* Pogba is currently destroying your transfer window chances, whilst the same is not true of Eriksen for Spurs.
* Pogba clearly won't sign a new contract, whilst Eriksen might.
When was it a question whether he'd turn up or not? You're just making stuff up. Its fine that hes under contract with us for 2 to 3 years, so we're in no rush to sell him.
We know how much money we have to spend, all clubs know how much they have to spend, obviously.
If Pogba stays, then he will play. He won't go on strike, and he won't disrespect our manager, who he respects.
* Eriksen spent 6 years at Spurs and won nothing. Literally nothing. He and Pogba are of simlar age and wants a better chance at silverware. That is the similarity of the two.* Pogba is a toxic presence at United, whilst Eriksen is a positive influence at Spurs.
* Pogba staying at United would now clearly be disastrous for United - a sulking, half-hearted prima donna whom you could have replaced with some good player who'll give their all - whilst if Eriksen stays at Spurs he will continue to be a footballing asset.
* Pogba is currently destroying your transfer window chances, whilst the same is not true of Eriksen for Spurs.
* Pogba clearly won't sign a new contract, whilst Eriksen might.
Umm, to show that hes still a part of the club and is participating with the squad like everyone else?Excuse me? You were the one who said "he's turned up ready for the pre season tour as planned". Why would you even say this if it hadn't been in some doubt?
No, you don't know how much money you have to spend, because if you don't sell Pogba then that's a big amount less that you'll have to spend, and if you do sell him then you'll have a lot more money to spend. But right now, that's all in limbo. The same is true of Eriksen, of course, but then less money is involved.
Umm, to show that hes still a part of the club and is participating with the squad like everyone else?
We do know how much money we have to spend, the idea of a football club not knowing their budget is laughable. If we sell pogba, we'll replace him with the money we get from him, if we don't, we won't, its not some disaster.
So as it stands United and Tottenham don't have a budget is what you're saying? I've never heard such rubbish in all my life.More denial: There was a thread in the United forum concerning your pre-season tour, in which the opening comment, with regard the flight to Australia from the airport, was "But will Pogba show up?" @Ranchero
So clearly there was some doubt as to whether he would even turn up. When this doubt exists even with regard to the pre-season tour, his being "part of the club" is little more than a technicality rather than anything real.
You say "We do know how much money we have to spend", yet obviously you don't, because if you sell Pogba for £90m (say) you'll then you'll have an extra £90m to spend. But not if you don't.
Is there even a point to this nonsenseMore denial: There was a thread in the United forum concerning your pre-season tour, in which the opening comment, with regard the flight to Australia from the airport, was "But will Pogba show up?" @Ranchero
So clearly there was some doubt as to whether he would even turn up. When this doubt exists even with regard to the pre-season tour, his being "part of the club" is little more than a technicality rather than anything real.
You say "We do know how much money we have to spend", yet obviously you don't, because if you sell Pogba for £90m (say) you'll then you'll have an extra £90m to spend. But not if you don't.
Fundamentally I would only ever prefer the player who wants out to be the one with the greatest value.
Talk of Pogba to Juve has been at the £120m mark, with Madrid reported to be wanting to pay £70-80m, but with them wanting to add players. Eriksen on the other hand is quoted at £60m.
Therefore all bollocks disregarded when talking about two players who want to leave I'd always prefer a player that's worth twice the value. Anyone who wouldn't for my money is a complete cretin.
You're arguing with someone who primarily deals in what ifs and maybes.The sheer amount of bollocks you spout.
Yeah, you'd rather be in a position where your player has 1yr left on the deal and wants out because he may extend his contract than have your player wanting out with 3yrs left on the contract because he may not extend. Amazeballs![]()
Majority of those were in those 10 games after Jose sacking and from penalties. After international break, when he flirted with Zidane and madrid, the effort he put was stark contrast to those 10 games.
You're comparing two players with different amounts of time left on their contracts, which of course affects valuation.
If I had the choice of having either Pogba or Eriksen in my team I'd take Eriksen every time.
Obviously... But that's not the choice. The choice is having a player worth £60m who'll be worth nothing in a year... Or a player worth £120m who'll be worth at least 70% of that value in a year.
In this context only a dolt would want Eriksen.
Correction: Eriksen is a player who might be worth nothing in a year ... and in the meantime be a footballing asset to the team. Or he might sign a new contract if Real Madrid or similar don't come in for him.
And Pogba - if he's forced to stay - will be worth 70% of his current value in a year … and in the meantime be a sulky drain on the team.
Was Pogba for better or worse not an asset to Man Utd last season? Part of the PFA Team of the Year (of which Eriksen was not), highest number of assists, top goal scorer and right now just as likely to renew his contract as Eriksen is
But of course everything to do with Spurs is positive and everything to do with Man Utd is negative eh
While I agree United are press gold, things are exaggerated and spun just to sell papers I feel there is a reason for it. Il start off by saying as a player I like Pogba, uniquely gifted guy, a true game changer and winner when he applies himself.
The reason why Pogba is such an easy target is due to a number of factors. Firstly the fee United paid for him, secondly what United pay him for his services and lastly his love of social media. Pogba cost nearly 10 times what Eriksen did and earns less than a third of what he earns.
A lot of members on here laugh at what we pay our players when in truth recently most other clubs don’t pay much more than we have started to. I’d say we would offer Eriksen around £180k a week, I don’t see Madrid offering him that much more than that.
When your paying the same money on transfers and salaries and not showing that investment on the pitch, of course questions will be asked as to why.