PvsNP
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My favourite player atm. I always knew he'd turn out good eventually. Best defender in the PL.
I suppose it depends on what attributes you prefer in a CB but I've always preferred the ones who use their great reading of the game to stop situations before they have a chance to become dangerous rather than ones who use their great tacking skills in last ditch attempts. I rated Vidic very highly too fwiw, just thought Ferdinand was more complete.How was he better than Vidic?
Cafe underrates him massively.
So you decide on who's the best player by your personal preference on their style? That's ridiculus.I suppose it depends on what attributes you prefer in a CB but I've always preferred the ones who use their great reading of the game to stop situations before they have a chance to become dangerous rather than ones who use their great tacking skills in last ditch attempts. I rated Vidic very highly too fwiw, just thought Ferdinand was more complete.
I suppose it depends on what attributes you prefer in a CB but I've always preferred the ones who use their great reading of the game to stop situations before they have a chance to become dangerous rather than ones who use their great tacking skills in last ditch attempts. I rated Vidic very highly too fwiw, just thought Ferdinand was more complete.
I think he was at fault for losing Caliguri for the first goal, but other than that he's been very solid.
Going along nicely, hopefully Jones can make a similar breakthrough this season and we'll have the best pair of CB in the league as predicted years ago.
So you decide on who's the best player by your personal preference on their style? That's ridiculus.
@Pentame That's not what I'm doing, did you miss my last sentence where I said I thought Ferdinand was more complete? He was faster, better on the ball, better at reading the game and just as good a leader. Vidic was better in the air and probably a batter tackler and stronger but it's not as if Ferdinand was weak or a bad tackler himself. But Vidic struggled badly with pace even at his best, while I don't think there was a certain type of striker that Ferdinand ever had a weakness for.First off since this is the greatest hits tribute thread, tonight Mike was fecking boss.
Secondly I agree with you on that part about reading of the game and no doubt Rio was a more rounder footballer but imo I think Vidic was the better player.
It's not a case of 'oh Vidic made more defensive tackles and was generally seen as more active/busy' but.. ok yes that is a part of it but also I think the 'intelligent' players are sometimes too happy to sit and dictate than be pro-active and strange as it sounds not just take part but impose themselves in the game.
I've be a big critic of Carrick and he basically sums up what I mean, a lot of ability, doesn't/hasn't used it to impose himself enough. It's why we love Schweinsteiger, he's displayed all the class of his reading of the game but never shies away from trying to force the issue. With Rio, I felt Vidic more than carried his side of defensive duties and even when he wasn't playing with Rio, he carried whoever his partner was.
@Pentame That's not what I'm doing, did you miss my last sentence where I said I thought Ferdinand was more complete? He was faster, better on the ball, better at reading the game and just as good a leader. Vidic was better in the air and probably a batter tackler and stronger but it's not as if Ferdinand was weak or a bad tackler himself. But Vidic struggled badly with pace even at his best, while I don't think there was a certain type of striker that Ferdinand ever had a weakness for.
He's fine, he just landed hard on his foot but he carried on fine.Woke up and saw Mike had scored . My favourite player nowadays. Absolute beast. What is this about an injury concern? I really hope he isn't out of the Arsenal match. I want to see him put Walcott in his pocket and leave him in his dust in a foot race!
Vidic wasn't quite a lot better defensively than Ferdinand. Quite a lot better than Evans and O'Shea, perhaps, but not Ferdinand. That implies gulf-like differences in defensive ability, which was never the case.Vidic wasn't that slow in his prime. Ferdinand was just extremly quick which may have made Vidic look slow. Vidic was quite a lot better defensively in my opinion, but obviously wasn't near Ferdinand at all when it comes to technical abilities. But in their prime, Vidic was overall the best out of the two, I'm sure most would agree with me on that.
He's fine, he just landed hard on his foot but he carried on fine.
From a neutral - yes he's playing well, and is a great player. But the best? No. just no.Best centreback in the world, there I said it.
I disagree. Vidic was a tank and I enjoyed his fearlessness, but overall Ferdinand was the best with no question in my mind.Vidic wasn't that slow in his prime. Ferdinand was just extremly quick which may have made Vidic look slow. Vidic was quite a lot better defensively in my opinion, but obviously wasn't near Ferdinand at all when it comes to technical abilities. But in their prime, Vidic was overall the best out of the two, I'm sure most would agree with me on that.
He is the best in the PL, but not so sure about the world. Mind you, I don't watch enough of the other leagues to even have an opinion of whether he is the best in the world.
imo hes better defensively than both Boateng and Ramos, of course I'm going to be biased thoughNot the best in the world and I'm a massive fan. On ball game lacks compared to the likes of Boateng and Ramos, and he doesn't obviously have their pedigree yet in Europe. I think he's got the talent to get there though, ridiculously talented defender.