has Ragnick actually worked with this fella before in a coaching set up. I know there is a connection from the Red Bull group but have they coached a team together before.
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Its hard to judge coaches. Rene Meulensteen was sacked everywhere he has been as a manager, even at Kerala Blasters in India.
Does this mean Fletcher will take a step back or is he also now part of our coaching setup?
You're from Norway. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Are the players going to listen to "come on guys let's have a little pow-wow and touch base on how we can streamline our touchdowns with the ol' soccer ball"?
I worry the players won’t accept an American accent.
Waves his arms about?
Kerala Blasters sounds more like a T20 cricket team, no offence to them.
I wonder what his favorite FPS is
If coaches were good managers they'd be managers instead of coaches. His stints as manager don't matter. Rangnick fully trusts him having worked with him at two other clubs and that's good enough for me.
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I was hoping for Jesse Marsch instead. Hopefully this is just the first and Jesse Marsch can still happen.
I was trying to look this up, which clubs did they work together at, Armas has only ever worked at New York red Bulls and Toronto Fc.
A Norwegian manager who failed spectacularly at my local team somehow ended up winning the Eastern Conference last night. If he's one of the best managers over there then that proves that MLS isn't a particularly good league.
I agree, there's a big difference between manager and coach. Some coaches will be good managers but the vast majority won't. It requires greater leadership and a broader set of skills.
As with any coach how good his work is deemed to be will be judged on an extended period of games at the club. If we're being honest we've no idea how good Carrick was for example. He was much maligned, came in as interim, showed he wasn't completely clueless and probably had some good ideas but ultimately he's seen as a failure because he was part of a failing regime.
That's football, if Armas or Carrick go elsewhere and the results are good suddenly their stock rises and they may be doing very little different.
As with any coach how good his work is deemed to be will be judged on an extended period of games at the club. If we're being honest we've no idea how good Carrick was for example. He was much maligned, came in as interim, showed he wasn't completely clueless and probably had some good ideas but ultimately he's seen as a failure because he was part of a failing regime.
That's football, if Armas or Carrick go elsewhere and the results are good suddenly their stock rises and they may be doing very little different.
Jesus. didn't make it 10 seconds and I already want him sacked.
He has had some dodgy job choices but he had a good stint with Middlesbrough and won the league with an unfancied FC Twente. I wouldn't class him as a poor manager.
How many months till the players are saying the coaching is “too American” ?
Used to play for the Long Island Rough Riders. Good enough for me.
3.0. 2.0 is already in the PL baby - Lego Pep
I wasn't sure about this appointment after reading the initial few posts but once the video of him was posted, and I realised that he is in fact bald, I felt a lot more comfortable about all this.
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How often does a head coach/manager take on an assistant role at another club?
From the OP:
''Marsch knew Rangnick well and coached the New York, Salzburg and Leipzig Red Bull teams, as well as totally buying in to Rangnick’s playing style and club philosophy.
Armas was Marsch’s assistant coach during his impressive spell in charge of the New York Red Bulls (they won the Supporters’ Shield in 2015 and then in 2018 when Armas took over from Marsch) and this hire suggests Rangnick is already calling plenty of shots when it comes to the future coaching philosophy and direction at Manchester United.''
''Rangnick has been the key man across the Red Bull family of clubs''.
Given the above facts it stands to reason that they've worked in close contact with each other at various stages, although I will concede that it's not explicitly stated.
Will he have to pass from a United DNA test first? We can invite Gary Neville to Maury's studio and see if he's Armas father.
How does he look in a pair of shorts.
If there was a potential succession plan, possibly. We've gone from jobs for the boys (United) to jobs for the boys (Rangnick's mates). Marsch could be an outside shout to eventually Replace Rangnick, with his former assistant now in place, the American Glazer connection. That could be reaching a bit though.
None of us have any clue about what impact a coaching staff has on a manager as every manager uses them differently. A good coach does not equal a good manager and a good manager doesn't equal a good coach. This guy could be the world's best assistant for Rangnick but be an awful manager, or he could be Pep as a manager but awful as an assistant. It really has almost no correlation to the other.
If he's good enough for Ralf, he's good enough for me.
Loosely closely related
He leads with his arm and his arse so its all good.
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He obviously follows the same tactical outlook as him, learnt under the Red Bull umbrella, I think that's about it in regards to working with each other. To say they've worked in close contact is clutching at straws
Agreed. There are plenty of great coaches that cannot handle the management aspect of things. This happens in American football all the time - top coordinators get a head coaching gig and fail. They go back to coordinating and are successful again. Coaches move up until they can't handle it, then drop back to where they excel. Or they get out of the business.
MLS is not a particularly good league. There are lots of reasons, but the way the league is structured on the business end is, in my view, the primary issue. There are other things that work against it, too, but that's the main one. It's worth an entire post.
If we are signing Ana de Armas next, then we're on the right track. Talk about implementing an aggressive press!
As bad as the football may have been for TFC, I don't think this means that Armas doesn't know how to coach. A good coach can still be a bad head coach/manager because they lack the leadership skills, and I think Armas didn't have any of that. His spell with NYRB before he was sacked tells me that he knows his football; he just doesn't know how to lead a bunch of big personalities (which he had a ton of in TFC).Absolute shite. The worst football I've ever seen with absolutely no direction and set up to maximise the weaknesses of the players.
@mazhar13 what have we done to deserve this
He's not cut out to lead a side, but he can help in coaching a team based on his work with Jesse Marsch. It'd be nice if we got someone better, but it's not the end of the world if we bring him in.
I heard from a couple of friends who watch MLS that he always came across in interviews as a guy who didn't really know much about tactics.
some great comments here 
Soccer P.K goal motivational cliche specialist! On a serious note, seems he likes the same type of high intensity football which will benifit our players in training.
Those who can, manage, those who can't, coach.
Look no one will ever look as Phelan in shorts, so just drop it.