Chloe Kelly on loan - goes to Arsenal not United

Would be very interesting, but oddly enough I am not sure we even need her? Certainly, wing is not a position we're weak in.
 
On paper, putting aside any Red v Blue bias we may have, Chloe Kelly would be an excellent depth signing. Cover on the right, left and at a push up top as well. Problem is, she needs out of City because she wants playing time before the Euros to keep her England spot and you know what? For me she's playing second fiddle behind Bizet on the right, Galton on the left, Malard and Terland up front as well (leaving Geyse out of the conversation as we have no idea how long she will take away from the game).

Whilst a player of her calibre would be great depth for us, I don't think we would be a great move for her.
 
On paper, putting aside any Red v Blue bias we may have, Chloe Kelly would be an excellent depth signing. Cover on the right, left and at a push up top as well. Problem is, she needs out of City because she wants playing time before the Euros to keep her England spot and you know what? For me she's playing second fiddle behind Bizet on the right, Galton on the left, Malard and Terland up front as well (leaving Geyse out of the conversation as we have no idea how long she will take away from the game).

Whilst a player of her calibre would be great depth for us, I don't think we would be a great move for her.

You make valid points, however she's proven in the WSL, so still think it would be useful signing
 
I'm not really buying it as being good for her or for us in a sporting sense. For us, it feels like a luxury deal (on what I suspect are luxury wages) in a position where we aren't that weak. For her, she wants minutes and she wants starts - she feels she's got something to prove.

I like the fact that she would have something to prove, I'm just not convinced that she should be an automatic starter for us either. It's not just about her ability (she's got plenty of that) it's about the way we use our wingers and the roles of players like Clinton and Toone.

In terms of telling the world about the big picture of United being open for business, maybe it's a smart move. It just surprises me I guess. I'm kind of assuming that if she came then Geyse would go out on loan, but maybe I'm misreading that as well.
 
I'm not really buying it as being good for her or for us in a sporting sense. For us, it feels like a luxury deal (on what I suspect are luxury wages) in a position where we aren't that weak. For her, she wants minutes and she wants starts - she feels she's got something to prove.

I like the fact that she would have something to prove, I'm just not convinced that she should be an automatic starter for us either. It's not just about her ability (she's got plenty of that) it's about the way we use our wingers and the roles of players like Clinton and Toone.

In terms of telling the world about the big picture of United being open for business, maybe it's a smart move. It just surprises me I guess. I'm kind of assuming that if she came then Geyse would go out on loan, but maybe I'm misreading that as well.

I dont think the strategy from Kellys side has anything to do with United, its more to put pressure on City that they will receive so much bad press and a toxic situation for the rest of the season if she does not leave. Kind of like how Arsenal fans made situation at Arsenal so toxic and distracted players so that Eidevall decided to leave on his own even when the club had no plans to sack him!

But of course its refreshing for United if we can get a big name player even if its only for a few months. It just makes us look more serious as a club again. I totally agree that players out to prove themselves generally do well as Nikita Parris for example. I am not a Kelly expert, but I fail to see how she is worse than most of our other wingers if she can get back to form. But of course Chloe would not be settled in the team etc. On the other hand we will surely get a long term ACL injury soon, its due, so why not bring her in! Worst thing is she does not deliver and Sir JIm has to pay the bill, but its only for a few months, he can take it from Rashfords salary!
 
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I understand what people are saying about where does she fit in with that front 3, however feel she could be a real asset with a point to prove

That's a good point. She would most likely compete with Geyse and Bizet, at least I think that's her best position (RW). Galton could use some competition though so perhaps four wingers for two positions is an okay situation to be in.
 
I think it's fair enough that City would block her from coming to us - I would want the same if the roles were reversed

We chose to let Russo go for free in summer rather than let her go to a rival mid season
 
I think it's fair enough that City would block her from coming to us - I would want the same if the roles were reversed

We chose to let Russo go for free in summer rather than let her go to a rival mid season
Clubs working in their own self interest always seems reasonable to me. I guess the difference I see between the Russo and Kelly situations is that Russo was still a starter and a key player for us. The whole point of Kelly's complaint is that she isn't a starter, so why do they rate her as too valuable to lose to a neighbour.

I can see this both ways round, but I do get why she'd feel trapped in this situation. I can also see why for a short-term deal in particular, not moving location could be a big deal.
 
Possibility of a permanent deal is... Interesting. First mention of that idea I've seen. City may have said no to loan but pony up cash and we can deal
 
Possibility of a permanent deal is... Interesting. First mention of that idea I've seen. City may have said no to loan but pony up cash and we can deal
Its always a permanent deal as Kellys contract ends at the of the season so a loan would mean the end of her at City - but it seems we are now offering to pay a fee to these scumbags buy her out right!

I cant see a scenario where we buy and extend her immediately unless Kelly really loves Manchester and is desperate to stay their long term.

Scenario 1 is where City wont let her leave to us on any terms.

Scenario 2 is where City will milk us of every penny they can and agree to a deal just before the deadline!
 
Its always a permanent deal as Kellys contract ends at the of the season so a loan would mean the end of her at City - but it seems we are now offering to pay a fee to these scumbags buy her out right!

I cant see a scenario where we buy and extend her immediately unless Kelly really loves Manchester and is desperate to stay their long term.

Scenario 1 is where City wont let her leave to us on any terms.

Scenario 2 is where City will milk us of every penny they can and agree to a deal just before the deadline!

Scenario 2 then
 
How many hours to the deadline? I am just considering at what time I have to have Flunitrazepam ready to dull my dissapointment ;)
 
How many hours to the deadline? I am just considering at what time I have to have Flunitrazepam ready to dull my dissapointment ;)

Depending on how you feel about Kelly, you can take or leave it now. Apparently City have accepted a loan offer from Arsenal.
 
City are such scumbags that I can't see this happening, how much longer does she have on her deal.
She's a wind up cnut, but would be quite happy to see her as our cnut
 
City are such scumbags that I can't see this happening, how much longer does she have on her deal.
She's a wind up cnut, but would be quite happy to see her as our cnut
They’re saying Arsenal have turned her head and she wants to go there. Her deal expires this summer