Seville fully deserved to win the game. They didn't look that great, but created the most dangerous chances. Roma, instead. Well, they were just the usual Roma 
Champions League Round of 16 (13th Feb - 14th Mar)
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A 2-1 defeat is not the worse result to get, they expect to do the job at homeSeville fully deserved to win the game. They didn't look that great, but created the most dangerous chances. Roma, instead. Well, they were just the usual Roma
Despite the chances they created, Sevilla never really looked capable of scoring. De Gea had maybe one dangerous attempt to save.
At least they got an away goal. I'd actually bet on them outscoring Shakhtar in Rome.Seville fully deserved to win the game. They didn't look that great, but created the most dangerous chances. Roma, instead. Well, they were just the usual Roma
Is everyone avoiding the elephant in the room again? I'll be devil's advocate then. The four worst teams left in the competition in no particular order:
Porto, deservedly thrashed 5-0
Besiktas, deservedly thrashed 5-0
Basle, deservedly thrashed 4-0
Sevilla, SHOULD have at least lost if not thrashed. If a draw then at least conceded an away goal.
Liverpool play Newcastle on 3rd March, then the U-12s girls team play Porto on Tuesday before Utd at lunch time on Saturday.
Utd have that Liverpool game before bricking the fact Sevilla can score away goals the following Wednesday, so no resting anyone for either game.
Poor show tonight.
Porto, deservedly thrashed 5-0
Besiktas, deservedly thrashed 5-0
Basle, deservedly thrashed 4-0
Sevilla, SHOULD have at least lost if not thrashed. If a draw then at least conceded an away goal.
Liverpool play Newcastle on 3rd March, then the U-12s girls team play Porto on Tuesday before Utd at lunch time on Saturday.
Utd have that Liverpool game before bricking the fact Sevilla can score away goals the following Wednesday, so no resting anyone for either game.
Poor show tonight.
Shakhtar the Ukrazilian club wins. Everton should really go for Fonseca. I think he will become a top manager.
I thought Sevilla should have won. While they weren't great United offered nothing... though I do expect United to win at OT so I suppose it's job done tonight.
De Gea and Alisson enacted a who can make the most ludicrous save contest, and in the end the winner was bruno fecking peres, with the "Sturaro"
For those unfamiliar with it, the sturaro is the bonkers desperate goal line foot save by an outfield player who's more suited to the pub league than the CL, so named after juventus stefano sturaro pulled it off against real madrid in the CL SF first leg in '15. That's right, Sturaro stared down the whole fecking world praying for a clasico CL final and said "not on my watch". And he's the guy every single juventus fan in the world looks on with incredulity and hopelessness every time allegri puts him on the pitch
For those unfamiliar with it, the sturaro is the bonkers desperate goal line foot save by an outfield player who's more suited to the pub league than the CL, so named after juventus stefano sturaro pulled it off against real madrid in the CL SF first leg in '15. That's right, Sturaro stared down the whole fecking world praying for a clasico CL final and said "not on my watch". And he's the guy every single juventus fan in the world looks on with incredulity and hopelessness every time allegri puts him on the pitch
It maybe but it's far too risky for you to say that. If they score first United are up against. Especially if it's 0 - 0 at HT . If's and buts I know but you cannot say it's job done and especially with this United team. Even in the words of some of your fans something is quite cleary wrong. I will tell you what it is and I've said it before. Jose is not going to take United forward.
I've just seen the post match thread on the main forum. Its brutal. I take back my post.
Sorry mate, I meant job done for tonight. Being a City fan I hope Sevilla win the second leg 9-0 but I don't see it happening. Jose is still a top manager but since Madrid I don't think he's nearly as confident in his players or methods and it's showing. I still wouldn't be surprised to see him win it though (well I would but only marginally).
@Dumbstar - Even I don't think United were that bad but it kind of reminded me of a reverse of the Liverpool vs Sevilla game where Liverpool had like 1 billion attempts to Sevilla's 3 and it finished a draw. 25 shots to 6 or something. I think though Jose did what he needed to do even though United didn't lay a glove on Sevilla.
I didn't know you were a City fan. It's still an even tie and can go either way. If it was Liverpool people would say it depends what Liverpool turn up. It's Jose's United though and he plays a cagey , no risk game and it seems he has run out of ideas. That's why I say if Sevilla score first United could be fecked.
Yeah, if Sevilla score first it could be a long night. They aren't mugs I just think Jose went their tonight saying we'll play for a 0-0 and beat them at home. It's a risky game because if I was a United fan I'd be much happier with a 1-1 tonight.
Ah yes, Sturaro, very similar to Henning Berg's impact in our Treble winning season, I'm sure you remember his goal line clearances against Inter. 
Alisson kept Roma in the tie, especially that save from Marlos. I watched after Ferreyra's goal and Shakhtar had them pinned back in their own penalty area.
Ünder got plenty of experience playing as an auxiliary RB.
I don't see how you can say that when de gea, yet again, is your man of the match. If Mourinho had done his job properly, the payoff for zero attacking intent should have been to keep the goal safe and have a midfielder or defender take home that motm award.
I've only seen Shakhtar against City (both times) and was impressed. Even though they lost in Manchester, it was one of the better performances I've seen a team give City this season
We changed managers in the meantime. After that, we beat PSG 3-1. proper enough team?
Not according to the Messi brigade
I thought Chelsea were excellent. I started off not really caring what the result was going to be (though I should since my 87 yr old father has supported them all his life .... and whatever makes him happy) but in the end I wanted them to win, they deserved much more than to draw due to an awful defensive mix up. Willian may have been unlucky but he was also responsible for fecking up maybe their best chance, break on the right and a Chelsea player (Kante ?) totally free in the centre with no defender around him for miles .. he left it too late to attempt the pass, he could have made it much earlier with no chance of it being cut out.
That's not true, they had 3 very good chances (all headers) - though Sevilla's finishing was abysmal, not least because Muriel is one of the most selfish strikers I've ever seen. Not the finishing they demonstrated when they drew 3-3 with us
I still think they're just too incompetent in attack to go through.That's not true, they had 3 very good chances (all headers) - though Sevilla's finishing was abysmal, not least because Muriel is one of the most selfish strikers I've ever seen. Not the finishing they demonstrated when they drew 3-3 with us
Exactly right.
I thought Sevilla suspect in defence and showed absolutely abysmal finishing and composure in the area (esp. that greedy fecker Muriel) but should still have won by a couple - didn't their mothers ever teach them 'head the ball down' ! However their midfield was quite superb, brilliant technical skills, lovely short fast interplay and constantly switching play and stretching United all over the pitch. It got worse for United when the 'best midfielder in the world' came on, they were totally overrun then.
I thought Bonega was superb against United last night; technically brilliant, tough, good tackler and totally set the pace for the midfield controlling the game, maybe he would look great alongside Keita (though we'd have the smallest midfield in the league) .... Sevilla definitely deserved far more than a draw. If they continue in that vein at OT there is every chance they'll eventually find the net. But United will score too as Sevilla's defence is just very very small and I can see Lukaku / Jones / Pogba winning a few headers in the box.
Jose did what he needed to ? United (and Mourinho) got very very lucky and that's got SFA to do with how Mourinho set up his team. De Gea was brilliant but a better header of the ball (on 3 occasions) wouldn't have given him the chance to make a save at all.
Totally overrun? Don't think so. You are making Utd sound like trash.
We got a solid result away in Europe at a difficult place. We now have something in common, neither of us can seemingly beat Sevilla. Although we get another crack at it infront of 75000 fans.
In midfield ? You were raped. And you were trash as the stats show Sevilla (25-8) United 6 (1). Sevilla were shite at both ends though whereas United created virtually nothing all game. As I've said above .. I can't see Sevilla not scoring if they continue in that vein which will make it an interesting game however I still expect United to go through now.
Raped? Trashed? Get a grip. De Gea made one excellent save all night. Hardly a battering. They kept shooting from all distances, I'm not sure why. Maybe we frustrated them.
It's a solid enough result which puts things in our hands going to OT. But the way you're painting it is if we're crap. I guess you're expecting pool to come and wipe the floor with us in a couple of weeks?
it's a funny result 0-0 for the home team, far better than a scoring draw but with Sevilla not taking their 1 or 2 half decent chances then I think they'll struggle to go through, from memory they're not great away and defensively they can't be that good if Navas is playing full back, probably a result both teams are happy enough with but United shouldn't have too many problems though it'll be interesting if Sevilla score first
edit: after reading that Telegraph article I didn't realise that 1-1 is better for the home team than 0-0, so a better result for United than I initially thought.
edit: after reading that Telegraph article I didn't realise that 1-1 is better for the home team than 0-0, so a better result for United than I initially thought.
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I was surprised just how bad Seville were. Like truly awful, how Liverpool botched winning positions in both home and away games against them I'll never know. Just shows how bad we were on the night that we couldn't beat them
I've always thought a 1-0 home win in the 1st leg is *the* ideal result. It lets you sit and counter in the away game, knowing that 1 goal will probably kill the tie.
Awful seems a touch strong. I thought Montella set them up well. They've lost 1 in 35 at home. Thats not a coincidence.
Not saying we were great either. Jose being Jose wanted to get this leg out the way and settle it at OT, which I think we'll do.
Maybe I am being harsh as the record you just posted is clearly a thing for a reason, from what I saw though they were about as bad as the dross we've played in the Europa League the last few years
Well, it's a good result, sure. I'd rather have a 3-0 though - now that's ideal!
~ Probability of qualifying if we look at bookies odds:
Barcelona - Chelsea: 80/20
Tottenham - Juventus: 70/30
PSG - Real: 30/70
Utd - Sevilla: 65/35
Roma - Shaktar: 50/50
Rest of matchups are obviously done barring a miracle
Barcelona - Chelsea: 80/20
Tottenham - Juventus: 70/30
PSG - Real: 30/70
Utd - Sevilla: 65/35
Roma - Shaktar: 50/50
Rest of matchups are obviously done barring a miracle
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Is there a 10% chance that both teams are going to be kicked out? A bit harsh on Sevilla, they at least tried.
Shakhtar deserved a more confortable win. They created so many good chances. Roma keeper was clearly the MOTM.
I didnt read the article but I dont have to. 0:0 is of course better for the home team than 1:1
I'm very curious to see Paulo Fonseca move to England. I think he's an underrated manager. His teams play attractive, proper football and unlike Marco Silva he knows how to setup defenses (he's a former center back). Like i said, a team like Everton, would be a good challenge and a way to prove himself. He hasn't done enough to warrant a chance in top four club imo.
The major issue about Fonseca is getting a good assistant to help him to keep the discipline in the squad. If he gets some Everton legend ex-capitain on the coaching staff to help on the hair-dryer treatments, things will go smooth.
Porto fans can't really complain about his time at the club, to be honest. He had to assemble a team with players like Licá, Josué, Carlos Eduardo, Varela, etc, and most of those players were released at the end of the season.