New manager CL bounce?
Champions League Quarter Finals | Chelsea vs Real (Tue) | Bayern vs City (Wed)
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Man city would have likely won this tie had naglesman still been in charge as his style plays into man City hands but with a more street wise manager in tuchel in charge I don't think man City will go through
Overall I'm happy with the decision to replace Nagelsmann with Tuchel but I don't think that will be any advantage for tonight.
After all we had 8 wins out of 8 games (against Inter, Barca and PSG) with Nagelsmann. And the tactical adjustments he made for the 2nd half in the 2nd game against PSG were absolutely spot on and completely shut down PSG's attack.
Maybe you could argue that Tuchel knows Pep better than Nagelsmann, but as I said, i don't think it will have a big effect tonight.
Osimhen out for the 1st leg, huge blow for Napoli.
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Fair enough. I'd probably favour City slightly too but you never know. You have lots of players who have been there and done it.
Yeah but he's not streetwise
It's still a very difficult match for us, despite Napoli's circumstances. Again, I hope Milan will be in the final in the Istanbul.
I agree with him. Tuchel will sit back and timewaste and try and snatch a goal or two through the wing-backs.
Other than being German, I really don't see how a negative manager like him is a good fit for a club like Bayern, which is why I can't see him lasting more than two years - though I can't deny his methods are very effective in knockout competition. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Bayern go through.
Every year is City's year since Pep arrived.
Still no CL, and got knocked out by Lyon, Tottenham, and Monaco... after all the cheating and cooking books.
Raspadori is out too, they're hoping Simeone can make it, but he's only trained once since injury
That doesn't mean he's streetwise or his methods are better (he doesn't have a perfect record in Europe); Bayern did a good job in the CL up to this point with Nagelsmann this season.
It's the typical lazy cliches about pragmatism and managers of Bayern et al apparently more interested in playing a certain way than winning.
Years ago there used to be a strong "you have to support the other English teams in Europe" sentiment from some
Biggest load of shit. C'mon Bayern.
Biggest load of shit. C'mon Bayern.
Not really, he outsmarted pep in the European Cup final already and he won't just go toe to toe with man City, he will play in less open fashion than naglesmann would have
Ive read statements like that several times and dont really get them.
For Mainz, Dortmund and PSG Tuchel always favored a very dominant and attacking minded style.
Did he change that much at Chelsea?
Or are your statements mainly based on how Tuchel set up his Chelsea team in the CL against you?
Would probably prefer Man City to win tonight, probably an easier game for Chelsea in the semi.
Such statements aren't built on any form of consistent logic.
Again, the public deserves the standard of pundits they currently have, any form of nuanced analysis would be lost on them
But unlike that somewhat limited Chelsea side, Bayern very much can go toe-to-toe with City. They have the quality and the technical ability to do so.
(also, Guardiola outsmarted himself in that Champions League final, honestly. He started a weird experimental XI with five attacking midfielders and Gündogan - it wasn't exactly a shock that Chelsea found tons of space on the break in that first half)
Come on Bayern, smash em!
Haalands pigtails 
Do City have a lot of injuries or is their squad not as 'deep' as people make it out to be? I have no idea who half the people on their bench are!
I think Foden is the only injured player.
They can field 2 XI teams capable of winning the league you know
It's not that deep and hasn't been all season. It's just that their 5 or 6 subs before going to the youth aren't all that much of a dropoff. Something which no one else has, at that level at least.
Is Muller on the bench often these days?
His benching was rumored as one of the reasons Nagelsmann got the boot, and if true, interesting to see the trend continue under Tuchel
Not sure if overly serious or not, but based on todays being the preferred XI give or take the Foden/Grealish/Mahrez rotation.
Ortega
Gomez-Laporte-Walker-Lewis (somehow?)
Phillips-Palmer
Foden-Mahrez-?? From Youth
Alvarez
I'm not convinced that's making top 4, yet alone winning a title. The fact they were seemingly happy to sell Bernardo if a deal was agreed on top of that was madness to me.
The players on City's bench combined cost well over 300m
We are in the business end of the season and Pep has nailed down his team, no tinkering. He's winning the CL this year sadly.
Yeah, I was going to say that it's unfortunately a perfectly normal and sensible starting line-up. I guess we can hold out hope that Haaland will play right-back and De Bruyne will be in goal or something.
How is Cancelo not starting ahead of Benjamin Pavard?
Expensive players doesn't equal an especially deep squad. No one bats an eye if we bench, say, Sancho, Maguire, Wan Bissaka, and Martial, and that's about 250m right there.
Not a chance, if they somehow get past FC Bayern then Real will knock them out in the Semi's.
Pep isnt the world class manager he is made out to be and is pretty awful in the Champions League thats why he has screwed it up over and over for the last 12 years despite having the best squads and massive budgets, if City had of appointed Mourinho or Klopp instead of Pep they probably would have won a at couple of Champions League's by now.
Because we're playing a hybrid back 4, and Cancelo isn't good enough to displace Davies
Benfica and Bayern to get first leg leads to take into a week’s time, for me.
He won his last CL trophy in 2010, he's a less recent winner than Guardiola!
Bundesliga is turd thread gonna get a bump today. I'm never confident when Bayern play a big team, they just have such a massive ability to self implode.