I find this very common. City and Chelsea are just flexing their financial muscle when they spend while United are hopelessly trying to buy our way back into relevance. No idea how much Pellegrini or Mourinho have spent since taking over but every second article on United mentions LVG's spending.
Champions League Group Stage Draw | United draw PSV Eindhoven, CSKA Moscow & Wolfsburg
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
Wasn't that when Owen got a hat trick?
Don't think they're as strong these days even though they managed to embarrass City last time round. Since they last played us they've lost Honda and Vagner Love. Doumbia's back on loan but doesn't seem as good as he used to be a couple of seasons ago. The Dzagoev hype from Euro 2012 seems to have died down too and they don't play on the plastic pitch in the Luzhniki anymore. Hopefully we'll be travelling there early when there's less chance of bad weather.
That really was an absolute shocker of a campaign. Failing to get out of a group containing Basel, Benfica and some complete nobodies in Otelul Galati.
Then getting schooled by Bilbao after scraping past Ajax in the Europa League.Yep, I think it was the same game when Obertan came on and ripped 'em apart. It was back when Wolfsburg had Dzeko too.
Should be an exciting group. CSKA away is a very tough away game. I don't know much about PSV this season but I'd predict they'll be a little weaker after losing Wijnaldum and Memphis. Wolfsburg are likely to be weaker if they lose KDB too.
But we should be topping it comfortably regardless. Win the home games, avoid defeat in the away games. 12 points.
But we should be topping it comfortably regardless. Win the home games, avoid defeat in the away games. 12 points.
Yeah, I remember when we scored the third a fan came on and took the kick off yelling at Dzeko.
That really was an absolute shocker of a campaign. Failing to get out of a group containing Basel, Benfica and some complete nobodies in Otelul Galati.
It was only the beginning of what was to come when SAF retired.
thats amazing
to think we will take this tie with utmost respect is telling ...SAF was a genius.
It's great that we got a winnable group as we need to be aware of our coefficient. There's a very real chance of us going down into pot 3, so getting into the knockouts will be a big help. Get to the quarters and we'll basically be guaranteed to stay in pot 2.
Or we could just win the league and get into pot 1
Or we could just win the league and get into pot 1
Hargreaves. Bitter or what?
Just a cnut!
Just been reading the pages of this thread during the draw.
I love how we've only been out of the CL for a year, and yet people have forgot completely how the draw works in relation to splitting the 4 PL teams into the two halves of the draw
It happens every year - do people not notice that?!
I love how we've only been out of the CL for a year, and yet people have forgot completely how the draw works in relation to splitting the 4 PL teams into the two halves of the draw
It happens every year - do people not notice that?!
It would help if the git explaining the rules wasn't so boring every yearJust been reading the pages of this thread during the draw.
I love how we've only been out of the CL for a year, and yet people have forgot completely how the draw works in relation to splitting the 4 PL teams into the two halves of the draw
It happens every year - do people not notice that?!
Just been reading the pages of this thread during the draw.
I love how we've only been out of the CL for a year, and yet people have forgot completely how the draw works in relation to splitting the 4 PL teams into the two halves of the draw
It happens every year - do people not notice that?!
This whole draw is ridiculous . Put all teams in 1 bowl and draw . At the end the best team will survive .
Cheeky bid for kdb then?
Fecking fergie and his lineups
That picture doesn't tell full story either. Park played higher up rather than at right back so it was Evra, Carrick and Fletcher in a 3. Shows how great Fergie was to get us through games with either good players out of position or just dross.
We should have got past Madrid under Fergie. Obviously the red card played a part but unfortunately it was just as RvP went on that barren run and I remember on golden chance he had in the away leg to make it 2-1 which he snatched at and was cleared off the line. It would have made all the difference I think for the game at home.
Somewhat hilariously unless we get to the last 8 it's actually Moyes who's got us the furthest over the past five years now we lose our runners up finish in 2011. With this new system of league winners in pot 1 we're at risk of dropping down into pot 3.
If my eyesight hasn't failed me
PSV - Utd 15 Sept
Utd - Wolfsburg 30 Sept
CSKA - Utd 21 Oct
Utd - CSKA 3 Nov
Utd - PSV 25 Nov
Wolfsburg - Utd 8 Dec
Dec in Germany should I
Same with the bald guy and all the time wasting at the beginning. People seem genuinely surprised that the draw doesn't start the moment coverage begins.Just been reading the pages of this thread during the draw.
I love how we've only been out of the CL for a year, and yet people have forgot completely how the draw works in relation to splitting the 4 PL teams into the two halves of the draw
It happens every year - do people not notice that?!
This game came around when all of our defenders were injured.. Even had David Gill's son Oliver up from the academy on the bench. Against Djeko and Grafite we pulled a great win and won the group
Yep that's right.
We had a similar back 4 against Fulham that year didn't we? I remember it was De Laet at right back instead, we lost 3-0
Good thing we're playing Moscow in October.. Would be "gloves and snoods on" if that were on December.. Hopefully we'll travel to Germany with nothing to play for.
Ferguson was capable of putting out some extremely weird teams and still getting results. We are now mulling over the fact we don't have a Ronaldo to pull us up front when Fergie could have played Bellion, Richardson and Fortune and get 3-0.
Sep 15 - PSV (A) - Liverpool at home 3 days before and Southampton away 5 days later
Sep 30 - Wolfsburg (H) - Sunderland home 4 days before and Arsenal away 4 days later
Oct 21 - CSKA (A) - Everton away 4 days before and City home 4 days later (OUCH !)
Nov 03 - CSKA (H - Crystal Palace away 3 days before and West Brom home 4 days later
Nov 25 - PSV (H) - Watford away 4 days before and Leicester away 3 days later
Dec 8 - Wolfsburg (A)- West Ham home 3 days before and Bournemouth away 6 days later
Edit (Fixed the last game - read it as the 6th from the image).
Sep 30 - Wolfsburg (H) - Sunderland home 4 days before and Arsenal away 4 days later
Oct 21 - CSKA (A) - Everton away 4 days before and City home 4 days later (OUCH !)
Nov 03 - CSKA (H - Crystal Palace away 3 days before and West Brom home 4 days later
Nov 25 - PSV (H) - Watford away 4 days before and Leicester away 3 days later
Dec 8 - Wolfsburg (A)- West Ham home 3 days before and Bournemouth away 6 days later
Edit (Fixed the last game - read it as the 6th from the image).
feck sake I hope not, i'm in New York for the game on the 14th/15th.
Fecking hell that is a killer, especially considering the travel time.
faak...CSKA away is at the worst spot possible. Win first two matches and send second team to Russia on 3rd matchday
The enemy of my enemy is my friend ?
Sept 12' Man United - Liverpool
Sept' 15 PSV - Man United
Sept' 20 Southampton - Man United
Sept' 26 Man United - Sunderland
Sept' 30 Man United - Wolfsburg
Oct' 4 Arsenal - Man United
Oct' 17 Everton - Man United
Oct' 21 CSKA - Man United
Oct' 25 Man United - Man City
Oct' 31 Crystal Palace- Man United
Nov' 3 Man United - CSKA
Nov'7 Man United - West Brom
Nov' 21 Watford - Man United
Nov' 25 Man United - PSV
Nov' 28 Leicester - Man United
Dec 5' Man United - West Ham
Dec 8' Wolfsburg - Man United
Dec 12' Bournemouth - Man United
* Arsenal play at home to Olympiakos before we face them
* Manchester City play at home to Seville before we face them
Sept' 15 PSV - Man United
Sept' 20 Southampton - Man United
Sept' 26 Man United - Sunderland
Sept' 30 Man United - Wolfsburg
Oct' 4 Arsenal - Man United
Oct' 17 Everton - Man United
Oct' 21 CSKA - Man United
Oct' 25 Man United - Man City
Oct' 31 Crystal Palace- Man United
Nov' 3 Man United - CSKA
Nov'7 Man United - West Brom
Nov' 21 Watford - Man United
Nov' 25 Man United - PSV
Nov' 28 Leicester - Man United
Dec 5' Man United - West Ham
Dec 8' Wolfsburg - Man United
Dec 12' Bournemouth - Man United
* Arsenal play at home to Olympiakos before we face them
* Manchester City play at home to Seville before we face them
Will try to get to that PSV home game
What do we know about CSKA?
What do we know about CSKA?
faak...CSKA away is at the worst spot possible. Win first two matches and send second team to Russia on 3rd matchday
Weather in Moscow in October should be a lot better than in say early December
I don't know what they're paying to UEFA for draw 'benefits', but they seem to get the same pain for the same price each year.
I recommend a bigger bribe.
Feck sake, has to be bloody Wednesday as well. At least Tuesday wouldn't have been too bad.
Will try to get to that PSV home game
What do we know about CSKA?
CSKA was the official team of the Soviet Army during the communist era. Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union it has become privately owned, with the Ministry of Defence as a shareholder. Russian businessman Roman Abramovich's Sibneft corporation was a leading sponsor of the club from 2004 to 2006.
Finished 2nd in Russia last season.
No. Position Player
1
GK Sergei Chepchugov2
DF Mário Fernandes3
MF Pontus Wernbloom4
DF Sergei Ignashevich (Vice-captain)5
DF Viktor Vasin6
DF Aleksei Berezutski7
MF Zoran Tošić8
FW Kirill Panchenko10
MF Alan Dzagoev14
DF Kirill Nababkin15
MF Dmitri Yefremov17
FW Alibek AlievNo. Position Player
18
FW Ahmed Musa19
MF Aleksandrs Cauņa23
MF Georgi Milanov24
DF Vasili Berezutski25
MF Roman Eremenko35
GKWill try to get to that PSV home game
What do we know about CSKA?
My thoughts:
CSKA was the official team of the Soviet Army during the communist era. Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union it has become privately owned, with the Ministry of Defence as a shareholder. Russian businessman Roman Abramovich's Sibneft corporation was a leading sponsor of the club from 2004 to 2006.
Finished 2nd in Russia last season.
No. Position Player
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
10
14
15
17
No. Position Player
18
19
23
24
25
35
Nice one
Always tought Tosic never got a chance here. Heard he's doing well as a right winger now.